Pill Pod 109 - The Society of the Spectacle I
Added 2023-02-03 16:34:36 +0000 UTCWe've been leading up to it, and here is the first spectacle of 2 on Debord's popular book (https://amzn.to/3HRp0pj). Stay tuned for future spectacles.
Comments
Thanks Pills, It's an interesting take. It adds more to what I was already wondering about. Now I am totally hopeless :)
TheUltimateBird
2023-02-14 12:42:55 +0000 UTCOur new episode is about that (and if you have the book it's chapter 5 and 6). In sum, premodern time was cyclical, spectacular time is pseudo-cyclical, because we don't have any real beliefs in time or history except time is money
Plastic Pills
2023-02-11 19:48:20 +0000 UTCCouldn't you say that in premodern times, religious ideology shaped what a good decision was? Although it can be argued that this level of capture wasn't as absolute than it is now. I think the spectacle is different now because of the proliferation of images that accompanied the development of mass media. Only that allowed for the "immense accumulation of spectacles" that Debord described, for images to mediate social relations like they do.
anacidcommie
2023-02-11 12:09:53 +0000 UTCI also had been wondering why the spectacle is different compared to the pre-modern times. They also had ideals and fantasies capitalised by the institutions (God was their favorite fanstasy). I think I have arrived at an answer. That answer(Erik said this?)is passive fantasizing. Because It's not that you are given the freedom(private thoughts and desires I suppose) to imagine/conclude what a good decision is. It has to be told through a series of images and suggestions, that it is a good product/decision. It is not that you have to realize your goals of achieving social solidarity, it is performed through ads by Coca-cola. PS: I also think Baudrillard is a better cultural critic than Debord.
TheUltimateBird
2023-02-11 09:28:36 +0000 UTCVictor’s Lib-pilled takes are honestly getting exhausting. Pills used to be better at combatting them I feel..
Anthony
2023-02-09 17:25:28 +0000 UTC
