Pill Pod 184 - MAGAcommunism: Haz / Dugin / Heidegger
Added 2024-09-28 00:54:45 +0000 UTCMAGA Communism may strike you as contradictory and stupid sounding, but it is backed by 200 tweets of theory which include Marx, Lenin, Dugin, and Heidegger. We plunge the depths of the MAGA Communist tractatus: "MARXISM IS NOT WOKE" to explore its theoretical aspirations.
Source text: https://x.com/InfraHaz/status/1672279505774448640
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Alex Petty
2024-10-08 07:33:01 +0000 UTCIf the definition of woke has drifted onto 'rejecting of suggested reality principles,' but we all share some unreality principles anyway (eg. proto-religion brain), does that mean woke nazis exist?
Alex B
2024-10-01 20:24:28 +0000 UTCNice episode. Could have just been a big dunk fest with little educational basis but felt like everyone really took care to trace out the absurdities and in the process reiterated, clarified key points of Marxism, Heidegger, etc. Always wondering, in the context of Victors playing the part of a maga communist strategist ... why the hell is maga communism more strategic than the other side of the populist coin, say Bernie Sanderism, Our Revolutionaries 😅? Those people are still out there waiting for a group/charismatic leader. Many of them moved over to/are duped by Trump/maga, its largely the same target demographic. That seems like the better poor and working class solidarity strategy/horse (in this historical moment, working with what is at hand), unless as was said, the purpose is to establish oneself as an e-boy internet persona(s). Like, why junp thru hoops to throw back to Eastern European Communism when you could spotlight heyday US labor (if you want the maga angle) when like there was armed labor resistance and some semblance of negotiating power, or idk, like people's material condition rn..., but in the 21st progressive *not exclusively for the whites* true *class* solidarity. What's the deal with this new translation of Capital Erik mentioned? For example, if I were hypothetically just about to brush off the unread paperback presumably penguins classic or whatever version I've been lugging around for the past 8yrs without ever reading (I finally read thru its 100 page introduction lol), would I be better off reading this new translation? Any scoop?
ageOfBumFires
2024-10-01 20:02:22 +0000 UTCThey don't make Nazis like they used to.
Khemith
2024-10-01 04:51:32 +0000 UTCDugin is literally an anti-communist???
Das Boy
2024-09-30 13:57:05 +0000 UTCI second this! Shouts out David Bates too
Kyle Brown
2024-09-29 16:31:02 +0000 UTCAlso- looked up Dugin… nobody mentioned that his look - his whole vibe really- reads ‘Rasputin Fanboy’. Just sayin’
James Aydelotte
2024-09-29 00:05:57 +0000 UTCThis episode, in addition to an article I recently read on alienation, and another by Jameson (RIP) about how not to historicize theory, has led me to a point where I’m forming a question I can’t articulate. I believe I need to read Korsch on the philosophy of Marxism and figure out what New Historicism is all about. The idea that there is a tension between phenomenology or existentialism in Marxism is solved by the Sartre through humanism right?
Jack
2024-09-28 21:06:57 +0000 UTCCool ep. Have you guys considered doing an episode on Yuk Hui and his concept of "cosmotechnics"? Here's some links: https://www.e-flux.com/journal/137/544816/chatgpt-or-the-eschatology-of-machines/ https://www.e-flux.com/journal/86/161887/cosmotechnics-as-cosmopolitics/ https://www.e-flux.com/journal/110/342442/in-memory-of-bernard/ https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/technology-after-hegemony-on-yuk-huis-art-and-cosmotechnics/ I ask because I am curious whether you guys think that this idea culminates in a nationalistic metaphysics. My intuition is that this *might* be the case, but I'm not versed enough in philosophy to be sure. Hui is a student of Bernard Stiegler, who Pills has done work on. His idea of cosmotechnics comes out of his elaboration on Heidegger's essay on the Question Concerning Technology, where he looks at the history of technics in China through modernity. He has engaged in conversation with Dugin in an academic forum. He seems less ethnonationalist than Dugin, but there are apparent overlaps in their thought and influences. As a musicologist, I find certain aspects of the idea of cosmotechnics useful to think/write with. Yet I'm cautious about leaning too heavily into the idea because, well... I don't really understand its philosophical implications well enough.
rwncd
2024-09-28 17:26:19 +0000 UTCWent back- listened to ep. 72 (Dugin) and then took this one on. I recommend everyone do precisely that- or to re-post 72. Listening to the neo-platonic apologies of Dugin being parsed by a softcore pseudo-leftist who calls themselves a Marxist just feels like more of the same pose from the empty-headed and internet brained clout-chaser political poster we have too many of today. In the 21st century everyone will be famous for 15 minutes of neo-traditional BS🤮🤦♂️ Dugin on the other hand is going to find real traction in the educated minds of some of those outside of history… and I’m sure that KBR counterintelligence firms will make sure they do…
James Aydelotte
2024-09-28 11:53:47 +0000 UTCOnly a couple minutes in, but I'm wondering if this sentiment will be shared, but "maga communism" and all other similar ideologies are just leftists who view the right wing as daddy and want daddy to be proud of them. I saw an video Haz did trying to pitch maga communism at a Trump rally to actual maga people and ofc, none of the middle class psychos that make up the maga crowd are even remotely interested in anything close to communism
Aesthetic Dialectic
2024-09-28 10:15:50 +0000 UTCLGBT people, racial minorities, autistic people, disabled people, etc are the real bourgeaoise if you think about it.
Ashley H
2024-09-28 06:51:16 +0000 UTC
