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Concept Vlog - Kayfabe Morality

Looking at Kayfabe inspired by the Netflix series on Vince McMahon (the long time CEO guy of World Wrestling Federation).

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Concept Vlog - Kayfabe Morality

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I’m watching this the day after Carter’s funeral. LeftTube is on fire about Obama and Trump getting chummy. Presidential funerals have got to be the ultimate kayfabe buster. Just a big fuck you to the proles.

P. Reed

Can confirm that it’s really worth it. Shits mf inspiring fr.

anacidcommie

Great stuff. It’s incredible how after all these years of following your particular intellectual journey, it always stays interesting and relevant, at least to me. Still the theorytube goat, and that’s without mentioning anything regarding the editing or production of the actual videos on your channel. I think you can tie what you’ve said here into Baudrillard’s concept of the object mass as one which doesn’t, on an unconscious level at least, believe in certain ideological assumptions. For example, politicians have been shown to repeatedly break kayfabe all the time in those photos where they’re shaking each other’s hands and hanging out at functions and whatever, and yet the public continues to (or chooses to act like they) believe in the fantasy of the 2 major parties being opposed to each other. There are mountains of evidence showing how both parties are funded by capital and will preserve the system no matter what (in all countries), and yet people keep participating in elections and believing they have a say in the political process.

anacidcommie

Thank you for all the content. I’m new here and I am watching all your videos in order currently hoping to finish them all then to get through your other stuff as well. I appreciate it.

Rey G

Was just think maybe the Harlem globetrotters are another good example because it’s a fixed outcome (they never lose to the generals) so it seems to have a truth value that is if the game looks good.

Jack

Great stuff both this and the Disney video! The kayfabe notion is especially relevant with the Trump phenomenon. I've been so tired of the liberal disbelief about Trump's egregious lies! I had been only thinking of it in terms of an epistemic echo chamber, as described by C. Thi Nguyen. It didn't explain all the evangelical fawning over this ass. Kayfabe! I say keep following your intuitions about the philosophy you want to do.

l. mark harris

I’m interested in it at least lol like how do I know when something I’m reading is an ontology vs a metaphysics

Jack

Would be fun to send out a deepfake of Trump breaking Kayfabe. Like a grainy phonecall of him saying something like: "I was never gonna build the wall, immigrants boost the economy" (or something more imaginative).

Alex B

Would some sort of intro here be helpful? I think I could piece that together if there's interest

Plastic Pills

I’ve been trying my best to grasp on to what you’re trying to throw out to us, and honestly my biggest stumbling block is idk how to approach the difference between ontology and metaphysics. Like I’ve read about both multiple times and I have a vague idea that ontology has to do with lists. But like ok? Why do you think there’s no stakes to it?

Jack

Down in the southern states we call it wrasslin

Jack

Pills commentary makes me think of “The Player” a film released 1992.

Qoheleth

Kayfabe reminded me of the movie The Prestige; one character understands the kayfabe of ‘magic’, the other doesn’t and goes to immense lengths to prove its real. Great video btw!

Andy Madeley


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