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Pill Pod 172 - Dark Academia (Exclusive)

Some simulationist material analysis in the economy of signs.

Erik's Feature: https://magazine.yorku.ca/issues/summer-2024/swallowing-the-philosophy-pill/

Dark Academia "Look": https://www.pinterest.com/kathrynaesthetics/dark-academia-aesthetic/

AI generated professors: https://petapixel.com/2023/05/04/ai-reveals-its-biases-by-generating-what-it-thinks-professors-look-like/

Pill Pod 172 - Dark Academia (Exclusive)
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dark academia intro (including Erik portrait) in the aesthetic & plot of “Saltburn”

James Merrigan

Nah I feel Pills takes the main role, always articulating his views on things and guiding the others towards the topics to be discussed on that particular episode. Spot on re signification tho

anacidcommie

The pictures do feel a bit yassified. Which is to say the pictures feel like they have been touched up, though apparently by Anna Wintour’s editorial department and not by AI. They’re still slightly uncanny, even if they are obviously not pure AI. Is “yassify” still a term? This viral Twitter account from 2021 fell off *hard* (probably because of AI): https://twitter.com/yassifybot

Elsie Hupp

This episode is how I discovered that I had accidentally been subscribed to the video tier rather than the audio tier. (Lateral tiers are confusing.)

Elsie Hupp

In what I’ve come across, the Jordan Peterson crowd in architecture seems to prefer neoclassicism to neogothic, what with neoclassicism’s imposition of regularity and order. The weirdos who prefer neogothic are more of the Camille Paglia crowd.

Elsie Hupp

The history of Gothic Revival is actually pretty interesting in how it intersects with the Industrial Revolution and socialism, originally having a strong Luddite bent before being recuperated as a luxury status symbol. The podcast TRASHFUTURE did a (paywalled) episode on William Morris that talks about a lot of this: https://www.patreon.com/posts/93329308

Elsie Hupp

Far enough into the future architectural styles merge into larger categories, and to most people they're just "old". It's enjoyable to read a building's story, openly displaying it is a kind of authenticity. While we know our oldest buildings survived in good condition, it's hard to imagine that trend continuing when the contemporary style is pretty much just race-to-the bottom cheap and imminently obsolescent materials. Modernism marks a division so great that, until we have at least one more material architectural revolution, it will always look stark alongside historic buildings

Alex B

long time listener, but this episode finally prompted me to join up here on patreon, so thank you! of course i probably should have written all my thoughts down as i was listening, given most of them have abandoned ship by now, but the general gist was something like — this is not the visual-only, heavily diluted internet aesthetic it may seem at first to be (as i once thought). in some rare instances it’s like… becoming-academic/teens take deleuze, and the gateway to a genuine interest in classics and philosophy for younger folks (many of whom i’m sure would love your podcast :).

meredith graves

personally, my allegiance is primarily to Pills and his vids and streamed presentations. The podcast is good too. Pills is my draw. I agree it’s the girl Jordan Petersen. Donna Tart is mediocrity personified. Def seems Goth fantasy of the 21st. First university in Europe in Bologna. Italy left out from beginning…enuf already w that history of empire and renaissance.. northern white folks turn? Curation and academic signifiers. on point. .

Zachary Manenti

AI obviously lacks the capability to artistically produce the niche nerdness of todays philosophers

Waya Dalimber

😂

Plastic Pills

Clearly that's what an AI thinks Erik looks like. It doesn't match the cartoon I've had in my head for years so it can't be right

Alyn

Could Christopher Lasch be a good future topic? (maybe Culture of Narcissism)

Lonza75

Now we need game the algorithm so when the AI draws a philosopher podcaster it produces a slightly deformed picture of Erik.

nkalv

I agree too. It's all Erik! Just kidding. But, pills is usually silent and acts as the arbiter/interviewer. In a sense, we see him in the background as a fly buzzing once in a while. Correct me if I am wrong. Some food for thoughts. The reappearance of signs of the past in academia also corresponds to the disappearance of the power of the academia (mostly humanities, science does not have this problem). It used to have an aura, and now it is just a sign to fill in your LinkedIn post. Similarly Nietzsche tried to bring back the power in an individual as a sign, in the form of a primitivism. He sought a sense of power when his health was declining and the power in elite was disappearing (Capital was booming). Similar to all nostalgists. All I am saying is that it is a weak move to seek relevance by romanticizing past.

TheUltimateBird

We have a pretty shitty marketing department tbh

Plastic Pills

Wait Eric is handsome? Wtf

Waya Dalimber

Haven’t listened to the pod yet but I read the piece and first of all Erik kinda handsome!!! Also they spell his last name wrong in the second to last paragraph lmao TAIT

Jack

Loved the bit around 30:00 about going easy on the tictoc girls bc academia has been cosplaying this in architecture for a while now. I went to Pitt and the central building on campus is what I presume gothic or gothic adjacent "Cathedral of Learning." A cell tower of sorts, a signal tower to be sure. Lol fashion origin story at 48:00 is also great. "Steal his look! Work in an unheated stone building at a wage where all you can afford is tweed." Cycle of "high and low" thereby both becoming meaningless 50:00 ... They must have had these fashion cycles back in ancient China bc that's like straight out Tao Te Ching lmao 52:00 Credibility bookshelves. Lol, amazing.

ageOfBumFires

I looked at the title and thought it'd be something about the developments of "dark enlightenment" in academia, and I was surprised. It was a fun surprise, though. Another surprise was seeing Erik's face. I don't know why but my mental picture of him while listening to the pod was Big Head from the Silicon Valley TV show, but Erik is way hotter. Kudos to you! And regarding building expansions that tack a modern looking piece into a neoclassic or gothic looking building: I remember asking something like that to my architect sister, and iirc it's an idea of not deceiving the public into thinking that the whole thing is a unified whole, designed at once, but explicitly showing the style of the time that the expansion was added. I'm not sure whether this is a satisfying answer, but I believe that at least it makes some sense.

Sabataí

Why would you make the one labeled as a common search term perfect for clicks the exclusive?

John Hofland

God damn York U publishing thirst traps!

Andy Madeley


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