WAP
Added 2020-09-18 03:14:27 +0000 UTCEmpowering jam or embarrassing noise?
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Ok, I listened to the song. Now I know what WAP means. I’m obviously not the target audience. If someone finds it empowering that is none of my business. I don’t think I’m so far out of touch, though, in believing that the Aretha Franklin’s Respect is more empowering to a broader range of people and, therefore, will stand the test of time longer than this song.
David Martino
2020-09-18 21:09:49 +0000 UTCEmpowerment doesn't exist in mainstream entertainment. Only belittling.
Wolfman Brandon
2020-09-18 18:34:31 +0000 UTCAS, I must respectfully disagree. I believe you are falling into the trap of being triggered by art being used as political propaganda, and then using that to fuel unnecessary tension between the sexes. Using politics as a catalyst for victimization to me doesnt make sense when Ryan didnt say anything sexist at all. I'm not really sure how you got that from his statements.
Deepfocuslens
2020-09-18 18:19:33 +0000 UTCBut there is an inherent flaw with women being openly sexual in such a one-dimensional fashion and selling it as "healthy" to the public. Men can talk all day about their dicks being hard in songs. But in the end, they have less risk sexually. Women are just naturally in more danger because they are physically smaller and weaker than the men who can potentially dominate them. And women have the ability to breed, which also means to me that they should exercise caution more readily. I really don't care what Cardi B sings about or does with her body. But the moment people start bringing in phrases like "empowerment anthem," I have to personally object. Nothing wrong with being sexual. I consider myself a very sexual human being. But recognize the toxicity in terms of how you choose to broadcast it, and recognize that open female sexuality is naturally more toxic because of the risk and consequences attached to it. Cardi B became a stripper as a young woman to avoid an abusive relationship and she says it saved her. Perhaps on a literal and financial level yes. But emotionally? I'm sure it did far more damage. Objectifying yourself purely for male fantasy gets old after a while when this is all you have to offer. I've been open about my own sexuality at times on social media, and have certainly used sexuality as my empowerment like most women have in some form. But...I do not make that my "brand" and I see more the darker shades to it in myself as well as other ladies. I want to be perceived as multi-faceted and not just sexual. I think women, particularly these new-wave feminists could learn from that.
Deepfocuslens
2020-09-18 18:12:59 +0000 UTCgoogle "Cardi B - WAP" and prepare to roll your eyes
Ryan
2020-09-18 17:57:02 +0000 UTCHaha I've seen that Ben Shapiro video twice. It's hilarious. Then all the liberals got butthurt and started going after Ben's sexual prowess (or lack thereof XD). Low jab, and typical of people who have no counterargument prepared. Libs can't take a joke. He was having fun and was clearly very aware of what he was doing.
Deepfocuslens
2020-09-18 17:56:49 +0000 UTCdo you find WAP empowering? that is the question of the thread, not whether or not women can be empowered by art (which I never said they couldn't - interesting you would assume such things)
Ryan
2020-09-18 17:56:09 +0000 UTCLOL
Ryan
2020-09-18 17:55:21 +0000 UTCI’m old and have no idea what you are talking about.
David Martino
2020-09-18 17:41:52 +0000 UTCthe only reason people are saying it is empowering is because Ben Shapiro went on some little conservative rant about the song and then the left, who are compulsively contrarian nowadays, decided to make the song about female empowerment as some sort of half-baked plot to troll right-wingers.
Ryan
2020-09-18 12:25:06 +0000 UTCEmbarrassing noise. Feels like it was another easy "viral" opportunity. They knew what they were doing and, what a surprise, it worked. I'm just going to stay in my lane and wait for this era of music to phase out. This song is a trend and holds no longevity.
David
2020-09-18 11:44:29 +0000 UTCEmbarrassing noise.
Oskitello
2020-09-18 11:19:15 +0000 UTCI don't really see how it's empowering in any way. The male equivalent would be a song about having a big hard dick. The thought of such a song being empowering is laughable. WAP is just vulgar and raunchy. I feel like most people who do listen to it do so ironically. It's just a silly song.
Ryan
2020-09-18 10:39:49 +0000 UTCI saw it more as a response to the seeming monopoly guy's in hip hop have about talking about how they enjoy sex and what gets them off, giving a woman's point of view to that idea. But you're right, in a culture that already has a lot of issues turning women into sexual objects this sort of song could come off that way as well.
Tyler Shobe
2020-09-18 08:17:34 +0000 UTCI don't care for the song, but I do get really tired of everything being politicized. And I also do not think that selling yourself as a sexual object is empowering. It kinda reduces women to the kind of behavior they always complained about from guys. I see it as more toxic and victimization than actual empowerment. Do what you want, but also be willing to self-examine if you want to argue it.
Deepfocuslens
2020-09-18 06:54:54 +0000 UTCThough looking at the names of people that reply here I have a feeling your responses are going to be skewed male
Tyler Shobe
2020-09-18 05:12:06 +0000 UTCCatchy and funny pop rap track about fucking that I think has been adopted as an empowering anthem even though Cardi and Megan just wanted to make a song about fucking.
Tyler Shobe
2020-09-18 05:10:39 +0000 UTCGarbage.
Christian Sanaploianu
2020-09-18 03:39:56 +0000 UTCI just cannot get into Cardi B as an artist in general. I like a lot of Megan Thee Stallion's music though, so I'm kinda meh overall on WAP. In my opinion the best raunchy chick rapper is Cupcakke. Not only are her songs hilariously vulgar, she's just a super talented rapper.
Andrew Reed
2020-09-18 03:27:09 +0000 UTCPersonally, I prefer songs about sex that use artistic metaphors and double entendres. I think wap is empowering while still being embarrassing because of how over the top it is
Matthew Mertens
2020-09-18 03:22:08 +0000 UTCAll for Cardi being raunchy, I just think the sample is annoying
Wesley Crawford
2020-09-18 03:16:27 +0000 UTC
