Getting more into 3D art and the future of this patreon
Added 2022-05-20 13:07:48 +0000 UTCOver the past month I've been spending a lot of my time working on 3D animated content. You can see some of the results of that here, here and here.
Initially it was supposed to be just a little thing to do on the side, as I work primarily on 2D illustrations and comics, but it turned into something more and it's becoming difficult to fit it into this patreon. What I want to do is commit all of my non alfie time to 3D art, but that's quite a departure from what I've been doing here so far. And what you pay me for.
From the beginning this patreon has been about illustrations and comics. I've been pretty loose with exactly what that means to give myself freedom to explore new ideas, but it has always been more or less the same thing. Alfie as my main comic project, a secondary comic/image series, and a bunch of one off illustrations here and there.
In the next couple of weeks I would like to finish Room and Board, and then commit all of my non Alfie time into working on 3D content. Meaning building my own models for the purpose of creating stylised animations. That would significantly change my output and that's not something I feel ok doing without writing about it first.
Right now the general idea I have is to modify the tiers:
1$ would include more general updates on how the models/animations are doing.
5$ would have more polished previews of unfinished animations.
An alternative to changing this patreon, would be to start a new one dedicated entirely to 3D content, but the end result would be the same. Less non-alfie output and more 3D. It would mean more clarity but it would also force anybody who wants all of my extra content to have to pay double. I don't like that.
What do you think? My mind is pretty much made up on focusing on 3D art for the forseeable future, but how exactly I do it I am not sure. I would like to know your opinion on it.
TL;DR I want to focus on 3D content in the future, but it will come at a const of less 2D content besides Alfie. What do you think?
Comments
I feel like this would be a really fun thing to see from you, I just am going to miss the Futa comics. I hope you can work more Futa into Alfie to make up for its absence.
Shabozz
2022-06-20 20:17:30 +0000 UTCI'm in the same boat.
Freyja
2022-06-01 01:52:27 +0000 UTCThe 3D looks good, take your time, it's all about the lighting too
Don
2022-05-25 00:58:47 +0000 UTCWould love to see the clips, can you post here? Not registered with twitter.
Generic
2022-05-24 18:45:26 +0000 UTCNo matter what you do, I wanna support you, too :-*
Darot Games
2022-05-24 10:30:40 +0000 UTCTBH, while I’m interested to see your 3D work, I’m not particularly interested in animated content in general. It’s not that I mind you moving away from Alfie; I adore your non-Alfie work, and would love to see more of it. (I wish you would do more with your Puazi stories, personally.) And I’m interested to see what you come up with in the 3D world. It’s just that animation is not something I’m interested in with your work.
Zack benYosef
2022-05-23 22:33:55 +0000 UTCAs something of an animator myself, I'm really keen to see how you translate your 2D style and use of light and colour into 3D. It's a helluva learning curve but the tools and tutorials out there now are incredible. You're a real natural storyteller as well, so I hope once you've got a handle on animation you're able to bring that aspect back into your works. Good luck!
Matt Pitt
2022-05-23 21:40:23 +0000 UTCId like it if you kept it all in this patreon <3
Wingsfromwhere
2022-05-23 18:17:25 +0000 UTCI am fine with this choice assuming you closed the loop on any other 2D stories you already had running.
shadowscribble
2022-05-23 15:12:16 +0000 UTCI would say there isn’t really anybody out there doing the kind of 2D art you do that ticks all my boxes, and there is a lot of short clip 3D art for that. Especially your comics. But I understand you don’t really owe anybody anything and I encourage you to follow what you actually enjoy. Hopefully the comics do show you how much all of us have appreciated your 2D art though over the years!
Mika Ears
2022-05-22 21:13:27 +0000 UTCOh no, you and Sejic have been drawn to the 3D side by the seductive allure of Zbrush and Blender. I love seeing side comics, but then I like all the comics you put out. However, I also like seeing you try out new things. As you do studies, try out new styles, and learn new techniques, your art continues to level up over the years. I look forward to seeing how your skills continue to grow. I don't see the need for a second Patreon.
Joshua Wolfe
2022-05-22 21:08:18 +0000 UTCAgree with the comments that a 2nd patreon for just 3d or reworking the tiers include 2D and 3D work. Since I started with Alfie, stayed for the side 2D you do. Because a lot of it is really good. The bits of 3D you have put out have also been good. But end of the day I'm still keen on backing your content.
Nicholas Feltner
2022-05-22 20:58:51 +0000 UTCNo matter what you do, I wanna support you
Max Ocampo
2022-05-22 16:19:49 +0000 UTCDo what you enjoy. Grow.
Lee
2022-05-21 21:21:37 +0000 UTCi agree that a second patreon would probably be wise. I also agree that dropping the 2d work altogether would be a shame..lots of folks came here for alfie, the invitation, etc...3d work is a fun distraction, but it's the 2d that makes me want to pay you to actually see something. (i also miss oyu tkaing requests, even occasionally.)
straycat74
2022-05-21 19:58:05 +0000 UTCToo bad I loved your random 2D work, but an artist should do what they love doing. Personally I think you could just make 2 tiers. Tier one is for 2D content and tier two is for 2D+3D.
Goofey Disney
2022-05-21 13:33:38 +0000 UTCYou should do the work that you enjoy, but I prefer your 2D work.
Jim Sharkey
2022-05-21 13:20:07 +0000 UTCAs long as it does not impact Alfie I have no problem.
Matteo Manino
2022-05-21 09:33:04 +0000 UTCI joined your Patreon because I think your art is great, can't wait to see what you can do with one more dimension 💜
Leonardo Taglialegne
2022-05-21 07:40:09 +0000 UTCuncertainty moving forward? where you have taken me so far has been brilliant, I'll keep following...
mat waren
2022-05-21 06:55:30 +0000 UTCI have been supporting you for almost 8 years now. My focus has been and will continue to be "to support your creative talents". I am also both a 2D and 3D creator for a long time, so I don't mind if your creativity leans toward 3D. "New challenge" is just as interesting as "keeping going" and the interesting factor is important for creators, I guess.
hige
2022-05-21 03:24:54 +0000 UTCAgreed! I'm here because I love the artist.
Rhaelen
2022-05-21 02:29:44 +0000 UTCI've enjoyed your 3D work so far and want to see how it goes. What's kept me interested for as long as I have is that you manage to combine enjoyable, coherent plot with really sexy scenes so that those elements play off of and enhance the other. A lot of folks can draw tits, dicks, and screwing, but I've seen far fewer that do that with (comparatively) long-form narrative successfully. All that to say, I'm here for the ride, but *eventually* if all your output reflected just this 3D modeling/animation aspect of your craft, I'd get bored. Not too quickly, but *eventually*.
MW
2022-05-21 02:13:54 +0000 UTCHonestly I get wanting to follow your interests, but content-wise 2D comics will always win over 3D snippets. Unless you're looking to make short animated videos, but that's a whole 'nother level of commitment.
HazM@
2022-05-21 00:58:33 +0000 UTCDon't change the Patreon. I pay to support the artist. I don't want to control the art. If this is where your process is leading you, you have my support. You may lose subscribers, you may gain new ones. I am excited to see what's next.
Zach Brown
2022-05-21 00:17:54 +0000 UTCExcited to see you expand your skillset and create the things you want to!
Thember
2022-05-20 23:56:26 +0000 UTCI would love to see and support your 3d art
Raven
2022-05-20 23:51:40 +0000 UTCI have a friend who loves making 3d sci-fi cartoons, so I have seen the allure. I wish you luck. I hope you don't completely give up your sci-fi comic idea, though. If I remember, .your illustrations were very "Mobius meets Hal Foster."
Michael Butchin
2022-05-20 21:46:32 +0000 UTCOh, those look great. Keep up the work - I can’t wait to see how much better you get.
Chris Waldrip
2022-05-20 20:36:36 +0000 UTCloving your 3d stuff so far! I'm just here to support your work, whatever form it takes
Syncollector
2022-05-20 20:12:31 +0000 UTCI love your 2d art but first look at your 3d art says I would love that just as much. I would be happy with Alfie + 3d art!
James G. Shelton
2022-05-20 19:22:46 +0000 UTCI support your transition. Follow your art!
CaptKaboom
2022-05-20 18:58:52 +0000 UTCI just want to make sure Alfie is finished. You've stepped up the artwork recently, it seems. I haven't been very impressed with most 3D art/porn, but if you want to go that direction, I wish you luck.
John
2022-05-20 18:45:04 +0000 UTCI've loved all your work across a variety of different stories, so I'll definitely keep sponsoring your patreon to at least see how your 3D art evolves. The samples look great so far!
RunningGentles
2022-05-20 18:44:06 +0000 UTC3d route is showing really good promise, worth doing so
aMicroPal
2022-05-20 17:53:01 +0000 UTCA while back you'd been talking about doing a non-porn (SFW) fantasy/sci-fi comic after Alfie wrapped up. Is that on hold now?
Tristan
2022-05-20 17:50:48 +0000 UTCI'm here to support your work in whatever medium. You gotta chase the thing that gets you most excited and motivated. If you don't, that's an easy way to burn out. 3D is obviously what you're excited about right now so definitely focus on that! It's pretty special to be able to follow along and see someone develop new skills in real time. I'd rather you stick to a single Patreon for all your artwork, but I'll stick around either way.
Tristan
2022-05-20 17:50:01 +0000 UTCI do not view Patreon as transactional. I'm here to support your art overall whatever you choose to do. I'd rather keep one Patreon for all your work rather than have two separate channels.
Fester's Lampshade
2022-05-20 17:38:01 +0000 UTCI'm not gonna lie: I am sorry to hear that. In any instance of an artist I love transitioning to 3D always felt like a downgrade. Although there is some 3D art I love, 2D always looked more beautiful. But I can understand the desire to try out something new and would never urge someone to keep up doing work the don't love anymore. When it comes to the Patron option, I am torn. Personally I want to have the option to back either 2D or 3D art since I usually don't do both. But I have to admit that a single account makes more sense.
Windsaw
2022-05-20 17:17:50 +0000 UTCI love your 2D art and will be sad to see less of it, but I'm super excited about the 3D animations you've posted so far and would be thrilled to see more of your work in that direction :3
Nicole LeGare
2022-05-20 17:09:50 +0000 UTCAs I am not on twitter, I do not see the pictures and due to I can not decide.
W.M.S
2022-05-20 17:02:22 +0000 UTCI am fine with whatever decision you make. I chose my tier based solely upon being able to get better Alfie content (not embedded in html formatting). The other stuff has been an unexpected bonus. If that changes for some different experimental stuff, I'm fine with it. The quality of your work so far is such that I'd be pleased to see anything you tried. If you should slack off for a couple of months and just do the usual amount of Alfie, I'm also cool with that. Also, what Aaron Ward said.
JohnR
2022-05-20 17:00:16 +0000 UTCThat you would so readily get into 3d art yet maintain your stylized direction but still maintain your unique style borders on a miraculous turn of events and gives me hope in this increasingly bleak reality.Shine on you crazy diamond.
Mike
2022-05-20 16:28:50 +0000 UTCYeah, I don't think it makes any sense to assume that there are many people who are all about Incase 2D art and would throw money at it, but would back off if you go into 3D. And of course, I'm here to stick around for it, knowing full well that in the short term that means a bit less content while you're figuring things out and making a lot of your initial time investments that will pay off later.
Shogeton
2022-05-20 16:22:15 +0000 UTCWould much rather you have the freedom to work on what you want vs. only working on something because it's popular. I'd be willing to pay a bit more to see the new stuff, as well.
Ada
2022-05-20 16:16:31 +0000 UTCI'll pay more just to see 3D versions of panels from some of your old content. 3D invitation? Yes please
Buoyant Citrus
2022-05-20 15:39:27 +0000 UTCHonestly I consider my subscription back payments for all the Alfie I read, so you do what is fulfilling artistically. Edit: One Patreon is probably better to keep all your stuff together.
Aaron Ward (Vampwire)
2022-05-20 15:24:55 +0000 UTCI'd say one patreon, as long as it's clear what the rewards would be (which I'm sure it would be). Maybe suspend payments during the changeover month so that people have time to decide if they're still interested or not.
Matt
2022-05-20 15:16:14 +0000 UTCI asked this myself last month lol, stick to 1 place, people don't wanna split up their payments ^^;
Tokifuji
2022-05-20 15:13:21 +0000 UTCI'm paying you to do what calls to you as an artist. I think that splitting the patreon would be a bad idea, that would just dilute things.
Darren Stalder
2022-05-20 15:01:25 +0000 UTCI won't lie, the thing I've been wanting to see most is the third installment of The Invitation. That said, I don't think you should split off the Patreon... this is to develop your art, whatever form that takes. That said, if you decide to make some 3D eldritch horror animations, I would not complain in the slightest. 🖤💜
Dana Marks
2022-05-20 14:56:27 +0000 UTCWe're literally paying you to have fun trying cool things and showing us the results :)
Stephen Wells
2022-05-20 14:54:18 +0000 UTCMakes more sense to me to keep it all here. I joined this to support your art. If you choose to work on a slightly different medium, that's fine by me. I'm excited to see how it will go!
Metaphorical
2022-05-20 14:47:56 +0000 UTCKeep it all here butt add extra tiers. I don't mind paying more. I don't like having to do it elsewhere, even if it's a different patreon account. I'm lazy like that.
Ebbelpoo
2022-05-20 14:41:45 +0000 UTCI think that the whole concept of patreon is wonderful, unless it works against an artist following their inspiration and growing. Make the change!
Sue
2022-05-20 14:39:42 +0000 UTC¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i joined to support you in whatever art you put out, so
Karsent
2022-05-20 14:39:25 +0000 UTCI think whatever is most likely to keep you in the creative groove is the only way you can really go. I’m all for keeping a single patreon myself
Robin Mach
2022-05-20 14:31:51 +0000 UTCKeep this Patreon and art the art that pulls you to art. Artists grow and change, I'm here for it. Some will stay, some will go, new people will arrive, but I'd bet most of us are here for the art - whatever form inspires you.
Jason
2022-05-20 14:25:46 +0000 UTCI say keep it on this patreon <3 i would love to see you stream your 3d progress as well <3
Ryuzaki Raven
2022-05-20 14:23:06 +0000 UTCAlfie!
Kevroar
2022-05-20 14:20:40 +0000 UTCI vote no new Patreon, I'm here to pay for your content and support whatever you want to make. Can you post your 3D stuff somewhere besides Twitter though? Twitter blocks "adult content" without an account and not everyone uses the toxic cesspit that is Twitter.
Hedgebug
2022-05-20 14:12:03 +0000 UTC2D or 3D I'm just excited to see more of your creativity bloom out into the world. I'm in the one Patreon camp so I know exactly where to go for all your new stuff!
Clutch
2022-05-20 14:06:41 +0000 UTCI like what you make. It might make sense to make the terms more open so that you can make what you want without feeling like you aren't delivering on promises
Phaine Of Catz
2022-05-20 14:05:43 +0000 UTCI'm just here for your art, in whatever form, so I'm fine with just adding it here. :)
Hypnobeard
2022-05-20 14:05:42 +0000 UTCI'm still hoping to see picarto streams again!
Dare
2022-05-20 14:05:32 +0000 UTCI want you to go after your interest and thrive in that interest. I absolutely want success for you with whatever you do. I will, however, be honest and say that your 2D images/comics are a complete work of masterpieces and it will be a shame to see that slow down. I would love to see if you continue with mini comics like "The Mess" parts 1 & 2 or "Charlene: Corporate Go-Getter". They're not just sexy for the raw images, but also can have a sense of intimacy like "Room and Board" or "Spicing Things Up".
Gabriel Steele
2022-05-20 14:05:04 +0000 UTCAlf keeps going so I’m fine either way. I look forward to the 3d stuff!
Mr. Ifrit
2022-05-20 13:51:19 +0000 UTCAs long as Alf keeps going, I’m ok with new stuff
Ray
2022-05-20 13:48:32 +0000 UTCIs like to see more of whatever you make, whether it's 2D or 3D. Do what inspires you
MrSpectre
2022-05-20 13:44:00 +0000 UTCJust keep them pits and pussies hairy and I'm fine with everything! :P
Cal Dersen
2022-05-20 13:32:23 +0000 UTCHere's one of the animations he posted on NewGrounds, so it should be visible w/out logging in: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/840658?updated=1650566561
Jonathan V
2022-05-20 13:27:27 +0000 UTCNo... Don't make a separate Patreon! I'm here for content u make! Doesn't have to b Alfie specific.
Daniel Lee
2022-05-20 13:25:45 +0000 UTCI have no qualms about any changes. Alfie brought me here, Alfie is why I stay, and anything else is just dressing on the cake.
Justin Cox
2022-05-20 13:25:17 +0000 UTCIm here cuz i like your art and process, and i think you should do whatever is pulling your creativity strings. I dont think you should make another patreon
Pyper Haylie
2022-05-20 13:23:46 +0000 UTCI think you should keep this Patreon and just keep posting your content here! (it's InCase, not InCase's Comics!) I'm pretty sure most of the people here is mostly interested in what you do, regardless of the media!
JustFry
2022-05-20 13:19:57 +0000 UTCI have always enjoyed the content you produce, 2D or otherwise, and followed you for sometime on social media before coming here to support you. You have always influenced my art and I find it interesting that you too are transitioning to 3D at the same time as I am. I think with the availability of programs like Blender and the continuing advancement of technology that the manner of how we express our art is about to take a large leap forward, and I am very excited to see what that is.
Justin
2022-05-20 13:19:11 +0000 UTCLove the new content! And glad if you keep it on the same account
Lucy
2022-05-20 13:18:54 +0000 UTCI was brought to your stuff because of Alfie, but I'm here to support your content and art. Do what's right for you and your art, and the fans will follow you, and new ones will come.
Aaron Crabtree
2022-05-20 13:17:26 +0000 UTCI don't have a twitter so I can't see the 3D content you linked but I'm fine with you pivoting this Patreon, keeping two doesn't make sense in my opinion. I usually prefer 2D but I am happy to support your endeavours in 3D too :)
SiberianHussy
2022-05-20 13:16:39 +0000 UTCMy opinion is that it is important for artists to explore themselves and various mediums. I don't really subscribe for a *type* of content, but rather *your* content. So whatever you put out, I am happy to support.
Niamh Cinn-Dhuibh
2022-05-20 13:15:20 +0000 UTCI'm here for whatever you decide to do! I'm invested in the story for Alfie, but when that finishes, I'll still be here for that good content. :)
Meadow
2022-05-20 13:14:30 +0000 UTCI enjoy seeing the process as crazy as that is if you’re up for it. I watch the process and would love to see the thoughts behind making the 3d sculpting/rigging
Gabriel Lascano
2022-05-20 13:13:30 +0000 UTCIf you're going to focus on 3d, then I wouldn't start a new patreon. Leave things as they are, and let the people decide. As for 3d work, I'd love to see the Invitation in 3d!!
Baxter Turnham
2022-05-20 13:13:25 +0000 UTCI'm here for any and all InCase content, go wild!
ab_Rogue
2022-05-20 13:09:48 +0000 UTC
