HOUSE OF ZOO - Discussion thread (spoilers allowed)
Added 2016-06-05 16:45:37 +0000 UTCFeel free to express your thoughts regarding HOUSE OF ZOO on the comments below.
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I'm a new patreon i was wondering if i can get a download of this Comic please?
Panty Raider
2018-05-18 22:17:53 +0000 UTCThis was fucking awesome. Glad you got your zoo fetish out. The art was also decent.
Dennis King
2017-03-12 22:06:12 +0000 UTCHey, don't be shy. These reviews are the second most important thing my patrons can do, no matter how long ago that comic was released. (first one is the financing part, naturally). Some people didn't like that the doggies and horsies because it seemed like a random thing to add. I kinda agree, but that was the whole point of the premise, to make a zoo porn comic with Spidey and his special holy grail of beauties.
Tracy Scops
2017-02-13 02:17:11 +0000 UTCIt feels a bit weird to be commenting on this at this late date, but what the heck. I loved this story; in fact, of all of your work, Tracy, this is one of my favorites. Granted, this is partially because the excuse for the bestiality (a world without sexual taboos) is basically my favorite fantasy, but it was pretty hot besides that. Needless to say, I would love, love, LOVE to see more of this world, even without the bestiality.
Shendude
2017-02-12 19:19:51 +0000 UTCThanks Marcus! I'm very glad to hear that several people who were suspicious ended up liking the comic. =)
Tracy Scops
2016-06-07 21:18:57 +0000 UTCI must admit, I really enjoyed it. Funny, great art, very hot. Was a little thrown off when it was announced, but in the end I appreciate you mixing it up a bit.
Marcus
2016-06-07 02:48:28 +0000 UTCFair enough. I'm quite cool with the fact that this comic is not for everyone's tastes. I'm hoping you'll like the next releases for the upcoming cycles way better. =)
Tracy Scops
2016-06-06 04:14:29 +0000 UTCI gotta say, I usually come to like your story because a lot of them are sexy. But the whole bestiality theme was a big time mood killer for me. I like the dialogue as it starts off, I was actually laughing and could loved the punch line of no more prudes. Felt like kind of a waste of a release for this one. The Spiderman and his amazing fuck buddies were ahead and shoulders better.
Stellavan
2016-06-06 04:06:44 +0000 UTCI assume the ones that didn't care to vote are okay with whatever I release. Especially considering the Nays are always much more verbal and loud than the Yays. ;)
Tracy Scops
2016-06-06 01:57:49 +0000 UTCI don't think I've ever seen a spidey-twincest-poligamic-cuckold-horse-dog story before. It's kinda interesting to hear the first patron say I didn't go far enough. That's really new. I never had the intention to go with non-con in this story. As you can see by the previous comments, I need to take smaller steps towards radical ideas. But maybe next time we might see more furry/scales totemic villains getting their share of the lewd (it's gonna take quite a while, though).
Tracy Scops
2016-06-06 01:55:18 +0000 UTCOops, 82 out of 439. 18.6%. My bad. It was roughly 50-odd last I checked the poll. :)
Altairadactyl
2016-06-06 00:33:03 +0000 UTCBut you didn't go anywhere new with the bestiality theme. You have women getting fucked by dogs and horses. So? It's been done. And where's Spidey? Watching. To up the comedy of the concept, you could have Pete being pursued by an amorous parakeet. Or, to bring it more dramatically into the Spiderverse, what about all those animal-themed villains Spiderman has? Vulture, Rhino, Lizard, Kangaroo (!), Jackal, Grizzly, etc. Supervillain fights could get really weird.
Ars Gratia Artis
2016-06-06 00:16:13 +0000 UTCParaphrasing Stan Lee, when he talked about the "Hail Hydra" incident: It was a good idea. Crazy. But a good idea. <a href="https://youtu.be/DqH871UT-LY" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/DqH871UT-LY</a>
Tracy Scops
2016-06-06 00:16:09 +0000 UTCSure, I was curious.
Ars Gratia Artis
2016-06-06 00:08:28 +0000 UTCI won't lie, it was a little weird. But I still kind of liked it though.
Akira Inugumi
2016-06-05 23:45:44 +0000 UTCActually THANK YOU, Andreas. It's always nice to hear what patrons think, even if they're not happy with this cycle's contents.
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 22:09:42 +0000 UTCYoure right. There where some comics in the past that required an "open mind" to. I just could not believe that the community has such a different mind set. Well the respones are quit goot. Congratulations.
Andreas Sieckmann
2016-06-05 22:07:28 +0000 UTCNow that's a good way to see things. I don't expect everyone to like everything I do all the time. I'm not a professional comic publisher, which allows me to take risks and try different things. This is not a job for me (remember, I don't get paid for any of it, not even for my own writing/editorial/logistical craft), but something I do for fun and pleasure. The best of it is that you all seem to like it too, helping me fund these amazing artists for their beautifully sexy artworks. That's why I'm always open for new ideas and conversation. I probably won't put effort on things that I don't like, but maybe other people can start doing something they like, similar to what I do, but with other characters/fetishes/universes. In fact, I'd probably be one of the first patrons of such creators. Different strokes is what makes the world interesting IMHO. And I really appreciate the fact you agree with me, GD. =)
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 21:43:49 +0000 UTCI did make an effort to keep the story interesting for the grey readers (the ones who weren't so sure about the zoo fetish, but willing to give it a try) by playing with other fetishes (twincest/triple bj) and comedy. Overall, I think the Zoo content scared away some of the patrons, while it brought some new ones in. It's gonna be played with again, but not anytime soon.
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 21:27:59 +0000 UTCAbout your comment on the taboos, thanks! Couldn't have phrased it better myself. I'm actually used to people telling me "I shouldn't have done that fetish on that comic bacause I'm not into that". I always have a handful of that each month. But with the zoo stuff, my Ombuds Dept. is really busy this month.
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 21:22:51 +0000 UTCHere's the link to the poll results: <a href="http://www.strawpoll.me/6920707/r" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.strawpoll.me/6920707/r</a>
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 21:10:19 +0000 UTCActually, the result was 163 votes: - Yes! Knot it all the way in! (82 patrons - 50%) - Erm... maybe... I have the weirdest boner right now. (18 patrons - 11%) - I think I won't like it, but I'm kinda curious. (20 patrons - 12%) - Not my thing. You can do it, but I won't contribute. (32 patrons - 20%) - Screw this ZOO shit! Do it and I'm outta here. (11 patrons - 7%) So the actual overall was 120 positive and 43 negative. 163 within a total of ~400 is a damn good statistic universe. Election prediction polls have around 97% accuracy with a much less percentage of enquiries.
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 21:09:51 +0000 UTCSlightly over 50 patrons wanted it, Andreas. Out of those who responded to the poll, slightly over half were in favor. But the poll reflected a minority of actual patrons.
Altairadactyl
2016-06-05 21:03:11 +0000 UTCWith Pietro's super-speed, you never know how many times he nutted his sis before pulling out. =)
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 20:52:20 +0000 UTCThanks! Paulson really does have a classic vibe on his craft.
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 20:51:25 +0000 UTCSpidercest was ever (and still is) one of the main beacons for new patrons. I wouldn't say it's so much vanilla in content (selfcest!?), but if one takes the dialogues out and just look at the art, it really is more lightstuff than the xeno/symbiotic adventures depicted in other stories. However, I think the next issue of Spidercest may blur those lines a little bit for the more prude readers (I hope not too much, though).
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 20:50:53 +0000 UTCAlthough bestiality isn't a personal "squick," it's not something I seek out either, so I wasn't sure what I'd think of this comic, but I did find it enjoyable. The setup was fantastic. Obviously most of Tracy's fans are not opposed to a little incest, and Wanda and Pietro's scenes were both comedic and sexy. I even enjoyed the little flashback of recognition midway through the comic. Peter being drunk didn't work for me, though, and I think the setup could have worked just as well without it. Communicating the idea of bestiality as a surprise that all of the participants were eager to engage in helped to make the comic enjoyable. Even Gwen's reluctance was revealed to be more her trying to keep presenting an "innocent" image, in contrast to the other girls (one can imagine, in a kinky polygamous relationship like that, that there is a bit of competition between them). I feel like the comedic attempts were ramped up in this story, higher than usual. Maybe so that people who didn't enjoy the action could at least get a laugh out of it? I don't know. It worked to keep the story lighthearted, and it definitely helped to set the mood that everyone was enjoying it, as opposed to having the characters talk about how wrong it is, which always ruins it. The art was okay. Nothing about it especially turned me off, but it wasn't as outstanding as some of the other artists we've seen. But maybe some of them wouldn't touch this story? Again, I don't know. I did like the ending, with Felicia and the horse. Girls calling their lover "daddy" always does it for me. It's messed up, I know. Heck, I'm almost a little disappointed we didn't get to see the girls get hosed down by the horse when it was done. I wouldn't complain if Tracy wanted to explore some other stories in the "House of Zoo" universe in the future, although I wouldn't want it too often. But maybe Silk or Spider-Woman or Ultimate Spider-Woman or Bombshell has a counterpart in that world that could get involved in next year's anniversary surprise.
Kyle R
2016-06-05 20:14:01 +0000 UTCI thought it was a very fun and (very) exciting story. Need a second issue (maybe next year?). Tracy always brought issues considered taboos in their parodies, so it's kind of strange to see rejections so alarming to this issue. Zoophilia is more taboo than incest? I think so we all have our border line of what we like or not, but that does not stop to give an opportunity to see what Tracy has to offer us in their precious comics. Even if one day she does some theme which does not please me, I know I will want to read because it is a comic written by her. Moreover, it is a pleasure to see incest brothers in this issue... hehehe
Diego Bachini Lima
2016-06-05 20:00:19 +0000 UTC(edit: I mis-quoted the person responsible for the art) I mentioned not all that long ago that I would support TS till the sun went cold, and on top of that, that I managed to derive some enjoyment out of a bunch of comics I wasn't sure I'd enjoy due to theme of smut. I stand by both of those comments. But I also am adding an unexpected caveat: I could possibly have enjoyed this comic more than I did. Let me go over the positive first: I absolutely loved the setup. Peter walking in on Wanda and Pietro fucking, and that resulting in Peter's current alternate reality? GOLDEN. I assumed this was just going to be some outgrowth of House of M (a crossover I never read), and the fact that it was almost a comedic lampshading of it instead (plus incest) was amazing. I've never specifically been a Wanda/Pietro fan, but I am an incest fan, and also like switching it up. Plus the component of the spell being middle fingers? Hee. And the rest of it wasn't bad either. Having this be a kinky wedding anniversary, naming the animals, more Pietro and Wanda shenanigans? Plus the running commentary of Tracy's talkative protagonists, there was a lot to make me smile. TS has always been very good at porn setup/plot. But then we come up against the larger issue, the stuff that didn't hit. There have been occasions where I think bestiality have been done well. It was one of the things Phil Foglio (of Girl Genius fame) explored in his smut comic Xxxenophile. And even though those times weren't my favorite comics... what made it land was the art style. I'd mentioned before during Deadpool that Paulson's art style didn't entirely work for me. That's definitely present here, too. Some of it was passable, but then there were moments like MJ's face in the top left panel of page three that just made me go eugghhhhh. And those are the actual people! There's some poetic justice in the notion that I think (based on what little I've seen) that Paulson did a very realistic job on the animal genitals... and that reality was part of the problem. There are people that commented below that really liked the art style, and I'm not going to gainsay them. Different strokes. But when I didn't like it, I really didn't like it. The faces that Peter is making through his mask... there are ways you can do that that work, but this was not one of them, IMHO. It feels almost weird, because those expressions are *very* cartoonish, where the overall style is trying to be more realistic I gave it a chance, didn't work for me. And if it worked for you, good on you. ^_^
GregD
2016-06-05 19:01:06 +0000 UTCWas worth it to see all the cummy goodness dripping outta Wanda alone!
Leadpoison
2016-06-05 18:22:48 +0000 UTCI honestly liked the art this time around, it was like a graphically updated 80s/90s style comic, Mary-Jane and Felicia looked really good in particular.
WeedLovingUxion
2016-06-05 17:58:09 +0000 UTCI gotta say when I first saw this proposed, I wasn't sure how it would turn out. It's a hell of a step away from the usual vanilla stuff that initially brought me here. But after reading it over a bit, I think it was pretty awesome. Maybe I'm more open minded than most but this was fun and pretty hot. It's not my absolute favorite genre of porn but 10/10 would totally fap again. Kudos Tracy.
Venom
2016-06-05 17:36:31 +0000 UTCWell, I'm always flirting (or groping) with the line... Incest, Demons, NonCon, Mind-Control are quite common in my comics.
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 17:25:15 +0000 UTC200 Patreons wanted that kind of comic? Wow. I guess my mind is still not degenerated enough. Maybe my fault when i misread your posts but youre flirting with the line. Lets look forward to some awesome comics in the future.
Andreas Sieckmann
2016-06-05 17:18:06 +0000 UTCNecessary? No. But I really wanted to play with this idea and more than half of all patrons voted for this theme. But don't worry, this theme won't be frequent here. Next cycle will have less "radical" ideas. (At least, I think they're less radical. Who knows, considering my degenerate mind...)
Tracy Scops
2016-06-05 17:08:58 +0000 UTCNot OKAY. Whats next? Was that really necessary? Im sure you have better stories in mind than this.
Andreas Sieckmann
2016-06-05 17:01:51 +0000 UTC
