BONUS CONTENT - an interview with Mary Tracy

Hello to our Patreon members! 

Your support means so much to us, and we wanted to share with you an hour-long unedited interview with a close friend of Alex Cox.  We have other bonus content in the works as well. Your donations keep us going and we want to say thank you by sharing insider content we won't share with our other listeners, and content we'll give you early access to.

If you have any ideas for bonus content, let us know. Currently, our Patreon members are a small group, and we're always happy to hear from you. John and I recently watched the Netflix documentary on Chris Watts  "American Murder" and thought that John sharing his final thoughts on that documentary might also be an episode our Patreon members might like. Thoughts?

Mary Tracy was a close friend of Alex Cox, Lori Vallow Daybell's brother. They did stand-up comedy together, and she even visited Alex in prison after he assaulted Joe Ryan. She considered him the younger brother she never had. At their closest they spoke two to three times a day. Mary met Alex's parents and siblings, and even shares the time she met Lori, as well as Tylee.   Mary agreed to an interview so she could share about the Alex she knew, and give 'Hidden: A True Crime Podcast' information that can help us assess the hidden motives behind this tragic crime.  Mary also speculates and shares who she thinks could have killed JJ and Tylee.   While John and I plan to use some of this interview for our podcasts, we wanted our Patreon members to be able to view the raw hour-long interview. We'd love any thoughts or comments viewers might have. A request to please be respectful to Mary.   

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With your generosity, Let's see how far we can go together to reinvent the true crime genre. THANK YOU   ABOUT Hidden: A True Crime Podcast explores the hidden motives behind unimaginable crimes, while examining our deepest fears along the way. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors, both good and bad, in order to understand the world and ourselves. Pull up a chair at our dinner table as a forensic psychologist and a journalist, who are husband and wife, delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes. What are you hiding? What are you hiding from? What remains hidden?  

DR. JOHN MATTHIAS Dr. John Matthias has a simple mission – to facilitate self-discovery to make a difference in the world. He’s a Federal Expert Witness and Adjunct Professor at UNLV.   He graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University,  and won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. He received his doctorate from the University of Southern California.   He was an All-Chicago and All-State football player in high school and he played college football at Princeton. He was also high school valedictorian at a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen for a valedictory study that continues to this day.   Dr. Matthias has acquired an enormous depth and breath of psychological knowledge over his twenty year career as a psychologist, including forensic, clinical, family and organizational psychology. In the forensic context he has assessed hundreds of high risk felons for community placement, developing expertise in personality assessments and hidden behavioral motivations.   In the clinical realm he has worked with numerous victims of abuse and trauma, including with survivors of the recent Las Vegas shooting massacre and 9/11.   As a family therapist Dr. Matthias received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling and he has worked with hundreds of families, couples and children over the years. He supervises UNLV doctoral students on play therapy and family systems.   As an organizational consultant he has worked with many community leaders assisting them to achieve insight and excellence in their domains. He has also worked with several organizations, including the Andre Agassi Foundation, seeking transformation by applying a unique research model he developed drawing parallels between the qualities of exceptional teams and exceptional families.   Dr. Matthias has developed a keen understanding of human beings at their highest and lowest points across the entire spectrum of human psychological development and functioning, which has led to greater wisdom about the major ingredients necessary for mastery and the development of resiliency and psychological well-being.  

LAUREN MATTHIAS Lauren has worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX. Most recently she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah. She  recently left the reporting world to be home more with their son. She is the podcast producer and editor. She is also the author of the book: Escaping Emotional abuse and works as a relationship coach. http://laurenmatthias.tilda.ws/