I know they are vampires and hurt people but I still hate that the humans experimented on them. Like revenge by being a vampire hunter is fine (I guess) but cutting them up and healing and removing organs for their own sick reasons is super disturbing.
hannah123
2021-04-08 02:21:23 +0000 UTC
Other people mentioned this already but this ep links back to stuff that was shown in s1 with the attack at the old Salvatore boarding house (back when Elena was just finding out about vampires) and in s4 when Damon mentioned the 50s.
If there’s one thing this show does well, it’s tie things together that we learn earlier on.
Lulu
2021-04-08 01:11:19 +0000 UTC
The part with Elena going there and he never saying a thing is a topic I was discussing in the past. This just doesn't make sense. He probably was just surpressing this to not deal with it. But when she said that Megan was killed by a vampire the should have opened up.
I think the torture is just cruel. When they kill people and they kill him totally fine ! But torture for over 50 years is just right.
Now we know why he turned off his humantiy. Yeah he could have freed Enzo before killing all the others but maybe they would have captured him again so their plan was to just kill them and then free the second one.
I'm wondering though if John new what his brother was up to. It probably hurts Elena because she is a vampire too, she could not imagine that he would hurt the thing she is.
Even though doing bad things doesn't justify torture though. If mass murders would be tortured people would go against it. Killing them yeah okay but torture is a no go for me.
suveemi
2021-04-07 14:33:42 +0000 UTC
I think about this simmilar. But keeping them locked up for so many years and use this immense torture !
Killing the descendants is a no go for me eighter. I think Wes said he continued Arons fathers work so it looks like they were involved but about his aunt ? We don't know yet. But yeah doing it generation for generation is just creppy. If all of them would have been killed at once these experiments probably would more effective.
suveemi
2021-04-07 14:24:02 +0000 UTC
So sorry that you got spoiled, hate when people do this !
suveemi
2021-04-07 14:15:29 +0000 UTC
Yes. They are vampires not people but that doesn't give humans the right to torture them anymore than the vampires doing horrible things to the humans. They say Vampires feel things even more intensely than humans so I find it revolting. The humans are the monsters in this case. I don't think them being tortured in the name of science is justifiable at all. I also dont think killing descendants was justifiable at all unless they knew about or were participating in this. I do understand why anyone would be angry enough to do that tho.
Connie Kay
2021-04-07 13:02:46 +0000 UTC
Oh yah when Elena was figuring everything out and saw Stefan on the reporters footage...I forgot that. Good thing Damon killed him because he was probably asking about Stefan because he was gonna turn him over to Augustine too.
Connie Kay
2021-04-07 12:16:44 +0000 UTC
There is a connection with Joseph salvatore in season 1 remember when they said he was killed in 1953 in season that was connected to this episode and damon flipping his switch in the 50's and lexi finding him in the 70,s when he said he flipped it in the 50,s
xbowalex
2021-04-07 10:55:34 +0000 UTC
And this story reloops back to when Lexi found Damon, and tried to get him to turn his humanity back on. This was why he had it off.
Chris Hanley
2021-04-07 10:22:22 +0000 UTC
Who tf spoiled that bit for you?? Jeez people are so freakin annoying
Gokul
2021-04-07 09:50:46 +0000 UTC
No spoilers please. That means mentioning or implying anything that hasn’t happened yet even if it seems obvious to you. It may not be obvious to me and I’ll eventually find out for myself. Thank you 🙏🏽😁