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Chapter 365

A 6.5k chapter.

I hope this AAR answers most questions but there is something you feel isn't answered properly I'm open to suggestions in the comments.

As always, enjoy.

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Chapter 365


Matt’s first action was to send a message to Liz through the Ascender chat. She’d want to know what happened as soon as possible, and nothing beat Ascender chat in that regard. He told her to finish up what she needed and not to rush back because ultimately there just wasn't much she could do beyond being another pair of hands.

Matt could also admit to himself that he was feeling guilty about this being his mess and therefore his to clean up. His wife had been looking forward to her check in with her research teams for the last few years and he didn’t want to ruin that for her.

That taken care of, he turned his attention back to Soerilia.

Seeing a non-significant portion of the populace start to spiral, Matt threw 20 million MPS to his [AI], letting it support the planetary AI. It decidedly wasn’t specialized in the same way, but with enough mana and further enhanced by his Minkalla-granted Concept ability, it could manage, and it was good enough at raw data processing that it quickly connected to and usurped the local satellites and communication networks, which let it start tracking everyone watching for issues.

Matt didn’t need it to tell him about the half dozen riots already sparking off, but one of the administration team members had that handled, and he let his [AI] watch and give him updates about the situation.

Considering how badly things had gotten out of hand in the last decade, Matt half suspected the admin team to be incompetent but they handled things perfectly. It was clear they had a deep understanding of unveiling tactics as they moved to correct things before he could even give the orders most of the time. That didn’t mean Matt liked what they were doing. What they needed to do. When one of the team arrived at a gathering of people that was turning hostile, they came in with the weight of their cultivation fully unleashed and backed by their Domain.

For the unawakened mortals below them, it would feel like they had lost all control of their body and Matt didn’t think he could truly understand how they felt, but a part of his mind tried to imagine it. Not only was their world being turned upside down, but even their bodily control was being taken from them.

It had to be horrifying.

But at this point, they simply needed to pacify the planet as quickly as possible, which meant things like riots weren’t going to be tolerated. The rest of the population didn’t deserve to deal with the results of such gatherings and they didn’t have the luxury of a softer approach. With how populous low-Tier veiled worlds were, Matt would have needed another dozen hands to truly get things under control. But he didn’t and the shoddy excuse for clones he created for his announcement weren’t up to the task.

He—

Matt realized he was still thinking like an Ascender and not like a Duke.

Sending a message to Lilly, he called upon some of his nobles who were waiting on his home world. They could be of assistance and this could serve as an object lesson of what not to do. He also called upon the unit of their personal guard that was stationed as extra security to Titan’s Torch.

Matt didn’t particularly like being able to use himself as an object lesson but waste not, want not. Zack would be proud. Well, not of the 20 million MPS usage but at least somewhat proud.

Running through the unveiling protocols, Matt decided to go off script slightly. Again.

Part of him rebelled after how their last venture into doing things their way had turned out but Matt wasn’t so weak of mind to allow a single mistake to make him second guess himself away from a better course of action.

With a thought, he found the leaders of the three strongest countries and paused as he realized he didn’t know any of them. The leaders he had started the integration with had all stepped down from their positions at some point in the last twenty years.

Finding those leaders wasn’t hard, it just took looking them up as individuals on the planetary AI instead of their positions, which is what he had originally done, but the mistake was indicative of his long absence and inattention. With a flex of his Domain, Matt pulled them next to his real body. He wasn’t so high in the atmosphere that he would need to do anything to ensure they could breathe, but he couldn’t do the polite thing and visit them.

Time was of the essence, and if he left the formation center he’d lose control over the construction. That wouldn’t be the end of the world, but he was working to extend the translation array such that it worked for any speaker, not just him. It was impractical and decidedly temporary, but he liked the message it would send.

Briefly lowering his perception to Tier 3 levels, Matt said, “I need the three of you to get on top of this. Ensure your replacements are acting properly. Maintain order and calm the populous down as much as you can.”

Matt was grateful that the three didn’t try to bicker or ask questions and just nodded which allowed him to send them back to their previous locations in seconds.

The former leader of the Joined Provinces of Turistia had actually been on vacation so Matt whispered into his ear that he could transport him and his family to his country's capital building when they were ready.

As much as he wanted to rush Westley Bakerfield along, his youngest child was panicking not only at Matt’s own display but the sudden disappearance of her father. Sacrifices needed to be made, and they certainly would all be putting in long hours, but a young child shouldn’t be the one to be making those sacrifices.

At least not as much as Matt could help.

Thinking of children, Matt winced as he saw the countries that were currently in daylight had people panicking as they tried to leave their work areas en masse to return to their homes or pick up their children, but their panic and sheer numbers meant entire cities turned into gridlock. 

Matt would have loved to teleport each and every person to their home but that was beyond even his capabilities.

If some of his just-now-arriving nobles and guards had some spare time, he’d set them to do so but the situation should start to fix itself given a little time as people stopped panicking.

As he was assigning those newly arrived to various areas to put out fires, quite literally in some cases, Matt was pinged by his [AI] as local communication networks started to go down one by one. The ones that went down because they were simply overwhelmed he was able to direct his AI to take over some of the computing load, but others had issues.

Some systems had critical flaws and singular points of failure, forcing Matt or another immortal to intervene when they went down. Communication was one of the largest points of friction in the higher-tech veil worlds. It was seen time and time again that people started to calm down once they knew their families and loved ones were safe which let them stop reacting emotionally and start processing the situation more rationally.

In the countries that had been in their evening and night times, that was far easier. A lot of them were just huddling together for comfort, which didn’t make Matt feel good, but most of them simply needed to call family and friends, where on the other side of the planet people were trying to rush from work and causing accidents, which slowed everyone else down.

The second largest issue was the power generation plants.

Most of them could run with minimum outside interference but as issues cropped up, Matt was forced to step in and prevent them from going down. He wouldn’t call himself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but most mortal engineering was easy enough to follow, and when he had any doubts he accessed the schematics through his [AI] to fix any issues that came up.

As Matt put a power line someone had run into and destroyed back together, he found he didn’t have an easy way to manipulate synthetics like plastic and put that on a list of things to do later. He tried a few different things, including semi-melting and fusing the plastics with fire, but eventually settled on just using his Domain to stretch and overlap the remaining fragments. He would have much preferred to simply use something like [Synthetic Manipulation] though.

Thankfully, the world leaders started to help after the first few hectic minutes. They followed Matt’s lead and instituted their version of martial law, encouraging everyone to remain home, except those in critical jobs, while also giving short messages about how they had been tirelessly working to avoid this exact occurrence.

Matt would have corrected them if those people weren’t about to be out of jobs in the coming months. Sure, some might be voted in as local governors, but a fair few of them would never pass the psych evaluations required for such a position.

When people realized that their governments had been complicit in hiding the truth from them, there was another round of attempted riots but the various immortals managed to deal with them before things truly got out of hand, urging everyone to go home and not to gather.

Those admonitions, coming from people floating in the sky, worked unsurprisingly well.  

It took close to three hours before things started to calm down but that only meant Matt and the others could start dealing with the real issues.

They started by broadcasting messages explaining the general details of the Realm and their place in it through every outlet they could. Those weren’t bad, but after watching once, most people went looking for more information and the administration team made it as available as was possible.

Documents, videos, voice records, all were there for people to start answering their own questions.

Matt felt too few people actually used the thousand page document provided but he couldn't force people to look past its size and search for the information they wanted.

The second major issue was when the administrators moved to start integrating the various world governments into a more cohesive whole after the first hectic few days.

A number of the leaders didn’t take that well at all and were summarily removed from their positions.

That could have sparked more riots but between the immortals moving around quelling issues and preventing crimes in a very public manner, ensured the average citizen was too terrified to try and resist even when their elected leaders tried to incite them. Not that they could do so easily. Communications networks were one of the first things they had taken control of, which prevented mass dissemination of such calls to arms.

On the fourth day, Matt, in a deliberate show of power, held a press conference with hundreds of the news outlets where he had initially stood miles above the planet letting his translation function serve as both a practical way to talk to so many disparate peoples but also a a backdrop of what the Empire was capable of.

He had considered creating a floor and walls to help people feel more at ease but in the end, after talking it over with Cato, he had decided not to bother. 

Most of the questions were simple or repetitive, asking if Soerilia could be left alone or if the citizens who wished to leave could be allowed to move to a Republic world. They could, at least probably. Officially speaking, only those who were alive before the integration were guaranteed transport and integration back into the Republic, but the Great Power had historically been quite accepting of immigrants from worlds they lost in wars, doubly so when a Veil world was involved. Half the time, they even covered the full cost of transportation.

However, it was exceedingly unlikely that they could go to another Veil world, which was what they actually wanted. Living in the Republic on a non-Veil world would be functionally the same as living in the Empire, just without free Awakenings and free healthcare. In practice there was  no practical difference whether their planetary administrator had a term limit of a hundred years or a hundred thousand. 

One of the early questions was one Matt had hoped wouldn’t be asked because he didn’t feel equipped to answer it, but it still happened.

“What will happen to our local economies? Or rather planetary economy? If it's true that there are millions of worlds in this Empire, will our small world be able to sustain itself or will we quickly find ourselves in poverty as resources and people are siphoned off?”

Acknowledging that they could have asked a similar but worse question, Matt tried to give his best answer. “I’m sure that most people understand that economics are anything but simple, but I will do my best to make it easy to understand. I can assure you and everyone else that there are economic protections in place for both low-Tier worlds like Soerilia and for newly integrated worlds. That means your own local businesses won’t have to compete with foreign entities for a few centuries. I will also mention that most citizens will see an increase in purchasing power from their respective currencies to the Empire Credit. As for brain drain, that is unlikely to happen as you imagine it. Some people will leave Soerilia but they will have simply outgrown the Tier of the world. That happens with all worlds eventually and isn’t as impactful as you fear thanks to longer lifespans.”

At a reminder from Cato, Matt added, “I will also note that most of your citizens will see a drastic reduction in taxes. Both local and Imperial taxes for mortals are capped at 10%, and it will be a good five generations before Imperial taxes begin for you. The local tax in turn is to be exclusively used on local infrastructure and social services, and your baron can explain more of his personal financial policy when he arrives in the coming weeks.”

Matt internally winced at the mention of their soon to arrive baron; he had wanted to avoid reminding everyone that their leader wasn’t elected as that seemed to go over poorly with most of them, but thankfully the reporters were more interested in the tax reduction. 

A few more follow up questions came about but nothing that was particularly onerous. He had no idea why one reporter used their question to ask about how the Empire felt about house pets but the segue opened up more esoteric questions.

There was one question that caught Matt off guard. “Reviewing the records, we find that you stopped a war between the Democratic Republic of Noricum and the Communists of the Greater South Plains when you first arrived but our station found you had participated in a war just months before that saw the deaths of billions with tens of thousands dying at your own hands. A play war, with spectators watching and recording everything, even channels devoted to comedic commentary. How can you be so hypocritical when they were fighting for far more valid reasons?”

Matt looked at the woman who had asked the question and inspected her. She was nearly shaking in her boots as she asked the question, her heart rate and blood pressure were nearing dangerous levels. There was also a firmness that he associated with people doing something that they knew was dangerous. 

The other reporters shifted away from her, for a moment forgetting that they were standing on nothing, but Matt simply nodded to acknowledge the question. “Their reasons for fighting were their own and I won’t comment on it. I simply stopped the war like I wish could have been done for my war. But your comment about me killing tens of thousands is misinformed.”

Matt let his face harden as he continued before she could try for a gotcha moment. “The true number is more in the hundreds of thousands. The wars of the Great Powers span beyond your easy comprehension, as that war in particular was considered quite short on account of merely lasting two centuries. All participants are there willingly, soldiers who seek glory, status, or wealth as they prove and test themselves in the only crucible which truly matters. However, even with that, for all that I slew hundreds of thousands, it was across a war front of trillions. Trillions. Thousands of times more than all the people who live on this planet altogether, and those who I did kill, was strictly in the service of ending the war more decisively, with less blood shed. War will always exist, but it is my duty to end it, as above, so below.” 

Letting that statement sink in, Matt forced a smile and looked to a nearby reporter and prompted him for a question.

The press conference went on for another hour and by the end, things had gone where Matt had wanted. Mainly about what he was doing.

Not just how he was holding everyone aloft but the translation aura he was projecting over the planet.

Thankfully Soerilia had a history of magic stories, so it wasn’t too hard for Matt to tie cultivation to that preexisting framework which was said to help with acceptance. Only time would tell if that was true, but he was more than happy to take the time to understand the stories if it could help.

Thankfully, and despite him assuring her that she didn’t need to leave early, Liz arrived just a week into the mess. She had originally wanted to return and help him with the expected returning-home paperwork and she took the opportunity to playfully bemoan her good nature biting her in the ass. Matt was just happy to have his wife with him as she alone more than halved the amount of work he had to do.

Liz’s arrival made a few waves as well, and Matt got a bit of a chuckle as various talking heads and community discussions worked to try to figure out which was the ‘real’ Liz, and what was up with the golden bird on her shoulder. They didn’t bother explaining, because there was no real point, but he did enjoy seeing some of the very entertaining theories, and Liz enjoyed messing with the “real body” speculators by playing into their theories for her ‘tells.’

At the end of the second week, things had mostly settled down with most civilians returning to their jobs, which was when they started installing and moving people through awakening machines.

Matt was hopeful that with a media spin or two they could have most of the population on board, and while that did work, it wasn’t to the degree Matt had hoped.

Part of the problem was the numerous news stations that were too used to the old laws who decided to try and publish dubious reports about the horrors of awakening, all the while thinking they were toeing the line by suggesting the Empire couldn’t force them to awaken.

Key word being ‘try’. After their attempt was first noticed, the planetary AI was tasked with keeping a closer eye on the media and Liz gave them a warning to read up on Empire’s official media standards and guidelines. Most gave up after a few more attempts as their printers refused to print, their websites refused to update, their broadcasts refused to start, and attempts to hand write flyers ended with all pens suddenly having no more ink.

But most was not all. Some kept trying. And after a handful decided to try and address the public on the street like an old town crier, Liz decided enough was enough and started ordering arrests. That finally put a stop to it, even if many journalists grumbled about these laws corroding the integrity of journalism. 

Only in one instance did any of the undercurrents of dissent turn truly bad. One town, undeterred by the warnings and interference, started sharing that awakening was evil and would lead to death. When that hostility turned violent towards the already awakened and several people were seriously injured at the urging of the ring leaders, they stepped in.

While there were numerous ways to handle integrating, there was only one way to handle such dissent.

They ruthlessly crushed it, thoroughly uprooting the burgeoning leadership and charging everyone involved in public trials.

Thankfully, a number of the people involved were not good people or otherwise had impure motives; they and the planetary AI had evidence of it all. It also helped that he and Liz were light with the actual punishments. Most of the true believers were simply given fines and community service, along with being moved up the queue for being awakened.

For those who had treated the exercise as a power grab, Matt and Liz were far less lenient. In those cases, they dug up every major infraction they had committed and charged them. Few people had sympathies for local tyrants who used and abused the power they held, which was why they made everything so public.

By the end of the third week, things had settled down to the point they didn’t expect any other major incidents before Baron Hastra was set to arrive, which meant they had to do their after action report.

Matt was no stranger to such reports; they had done them both with Luna and the army after every major battle but this was one where he and Liz would not come out looking good.

Even if, legally speaking, the fault didn’t lie with them, Matt absolutely took full responsibility for insufficient whatever that led Soerilia to the point it was at. He fully intended this report to focus on all the ways they personally could have intervened, because without identifying failure points there was no way to prevent them from happening again.

Isabella had returned from her auction and, having relatively less to do than everyone else, had taken the lead on organizing the after action.

She stood at the head of the table and looked down at the attendees.

“My Lady, my Lord, gathered dignitaries, let us start with establishing what brought us here today. The integration of Soerilia into the Sophron Empire was initiated approximately twenty years ago, by the Duke and Duchess Moore. They elected to go for a slower, more gradual reveal over the standard more abrupt approach. This process has been ongoing and while significantly slower than planned has had seemingly no truly outstanding incidents, until three weeks ago when Duke Moore was informed about a plot against his life by one of the original leaders read in on the secret. In the aftermath of that revelation the Lord decided to finish the unveiling in a more… typical manner. We are here to establish what went wrong that led to this outcome. To facilitate this, the Dukes have given everybody here leave to speak freely with no risk of repercussions and I will remind everyone that a good after action report is only possible when people exercise that privilege.”

When Matt heard the situation laid out like that he started to wonder if he had overreacted, but no. No situation where somebody plotted to unleash rift breaks as a distraction could be allowed to continue under his watch. 

He was however somewhat saddened by how necessary that last comment was. Were they truly so scared he’d fly off the handle at a little criticism? He was criticized constantly and had always taken it well. It was an opportunity to learn from one's mistakes after all.

Seeing nobody object to her description of events, and having given appropriate time for somebody else to start, Isabella went first. 

“My Lady, my Lord let us start with what prompted this whole ordeal. Despite not being the noble in direct control of the planet, the Lady and Lord started the unveiling. Secondly, and compounding that issue, is the Lady and Lord’s desire to go through a slower integration while neither had the time to personally oversee the process. Normally this would not be a huge problem as you did pay for an expert admin team, but well…” 

Isabella looked meaningfully at Palom, the administration team's leader. The ten thousand year old man looked far from pleased for having attention drawn to him, his sickly looking complexion only growing paler.

“My Lord, my Lady, what seneschal Isabella is insinuating is, well, I don’t want to offend, and of course any theoretical issues are just a matter of inexperience and I’m sure you’ll never repeat them and—” 

“Just speak your mind” Liz interjected. “If we couldn't handle valid criticism we’d never have made it as far as we have. Where did we fuck up?”

Palom looked far from reassured by her encouragement, but was also clearly too scared to gainsay anything even if he had disagreed. After taking a moment to visibly steel his resolve, he continued. 

“Very well then. Both Lords, Lord Moore in particular, repeatedly impressed upon us the need for a light touch. Combined with the check ins on that very topic, prevented us from fully doing our job. We understand there was a desire to be gentle with the integration, but even that has its limits. Or it should. It’s very hard to say that when not one but two Ascenders are hovering over your shoulder constantly reminding us of how they want things done. We have dealt with such before but normally we are able to bypass or work around those lords but we are not so brave as to directly flaunt an Ascender's orders to their face.” 

Matt was taken aback by that, not expecting the team they had hired to be so scared of them. 

“Were we, was I, truly that disruptive?” Matt couldn't help but ask. “I remember saying that while I said we wanted a light touch, we wanted a smooth integration. If taken at face value those are sometimes conflicting but not egregiously so.”

Palom swallowed before nodding. “Extremely so, my Lord. Normally there are ways to work around overly involved bosses, but most of our bosses aren’t Ascenders. Your total absence the last decade was a boon to us more than the decade that preceded it.”

Matt had to sit back and digest that fact. He expected criticism, welcomed it, but that specific one hurt. He had dealt with an asshole boss back when he worked at Benny's Inn and hearing he had acted like Benny all those years ago was startling. 

Still there was one thing he wanted elaboration on. “Then how did Lancor manage to get as far as he did? When I saw that, I took it as a sign that the entire integration was failing which is partly why I decided to do what I did. If the system is so flawed, I might as well just break it and start fresh.”

Palom shook his head. “Despite outward appearances Fabian Lancor had gotten nowhere. He was just a wannabe warlord. There is at least a handful of his ilk on every unveiling and they’ve never managed to be more than temporary nuisances. Typically we identify them early on before contacting the world leaders at all and stage their downfalls. The lords starting the integration themselves prevented that method but we could have and have before worked around that. It was more the Lord and Lady’s insistence that we act with a light touch that kept him in power as long as he was. Even ignoring the alternatives, his downfall was inevitable and well underway. A member of our team was always on standby, ready to at any moment, to disarm the bombs in case Lancor decided to initiate his plan early. Additionally we were only a month or two away from implementing our preferred solution. Namely putting somebody with the right moral character in the chain of command who had the power, authority, and prestige to reject those orders. We would then make the incident public and use that wave of public sentiment to oust Lancor and destroy his power base. I might add that even now there are two other world leaders with plans in a similar if less extreme vein and seven who are in the very early stages of creating similar plans. Or were. We have of course taken steps to remove said individuals now that we can act without unveiling constraints.” 

Matt rubbed the bridge of his nose and counted to ten. He hadn’t realized just how badly he had messed things up. He had seen a situation and he had acted. That was what he did. That was what he was trained for. And that was the problem. He had reacted like an Ascender, with emotion and decisive action instead of like a duke. Somebody who had to consider the long term.

Liz asked a question while he was pondering that. “Are there any other plots that we should be aware of? Not that we don’t trust your judgment but at this point I’d just like to know.” 

Palom looked like he was going to answer in the negative before reconsidering and saying, “The current King of the Rhapesh Kingdom is preparing his children to try to seduce Baron Hastra. We will of course be informing the baron but ultimately dealing with that is the baron's job. That ploy has actually worked in the local rulers favor a few times in the past, as the baron marrying a local can do wonders for the population's acceptance if handled right. Although I think in this case that’s not a viable option. The Rhapesh Kingdom's reputation is bad enough that showing them any such favor would only make things worse instead of better.”

With Palom finally done speaking Isabella called attention to herself. “I think that covers most of the issues from the administration's side. Mister Bakerfield, if you would give your perspective as a native of Soerilia?”

Westley Bakerfield, despite being in his sixties, looked good for his age. Part of that was him having reached Tier 4 before stopping his advancement and the other part was him being in a position where he had access to things like magical healing, personal chefs, and the best natural treasures or rare resources pulled out of the Roland zone.

“One thing that stood out from day one was the pacing of the unveiling. I obviously can’t speak for other veil worlds, but Soerilia and the bureaucracy we developed here feels slower than the feeling I get from the reports I had access to. The ten-year plan that was promised, even from day one, was either wildly optimistic in its timeline or Soerilia itself is just slower in such matters. I originally assumed that this was simply an untested procedure which is why the time estimates were off, but I genuinely don't believe that even with constant surveillance we could have met those original deadlines. That isn’t to say we as a planet didn’t drag our feet, some countries didn’t meet a deadline until it was clear punishments were incoming but others just felt unrealistic in their expectations. If I could have had one thing, I wish we had more direct evidence that could have been used to convince my congress and senate. They were hard to convince at times, which slowed things even when I tried my best to push through policies to be compliant with the integration demand.”

After pausing for a moment Westley added. 

“That leads me into a second and possibly more important issue. While this look into the behind the scenes provides a lot of context, from our side of things this integration looked… sloppy. The two of you said you were our dukes, but then you didn’t really act like it. You had no guards, you looked and still do, look like young adults not remotely ready to lead a city, let alone a multi-planet, universe spanning duchy. In addition the two of you acted far too open with us and many times you personally did things that even somebody who ran just a business would delegate. None of that made you look like some magical duke we all had to obey. I tried to do my best after seeing another world and your ability to just bring us there but a lot of your behaviors didn’t encourage nations to just take orders and go along with the program.”

“I just tried to be friendly, make the shock less severe by not talking down to you. I was trying to treat you like—” Matt was about to say like people but stopped himself. It wasn’t often, but he had seen immortals who tended to treat mortals like children instead of fully capable adults but he knew saying that would derail the conversation. Instead he ended it on, “I would want to be treated.”

“Appearances matter my lord, and that’s true whether you’re in a democracy or feudalism. A leader needs to fulfill the role of a leader. You didn’t present yourself as a conquering duke, so to a greater or lesser extent depending on the leaders, you weren’t treated as one. Neither of you ever mentioned that the reason for our transfer was your own personal combat prowess, let alone that you were these Ascenders. A title which, based on Mr Paloms pallor, I suspect I still don’t fully appreciate the weight of.” 

Matt winced but nodded. If he had known those seemingly small actions would hamper the integration to such a large extent he would have done things differently but he had neither a time travel Talent or a future sight Talent.

That thought made Matt remember they would need to report to their superior, the King of their kingdom, about the incident. Except they fell under the Emperor's purview as one of his direct subjects. 

He was fairly sure Manny had known about this mistake when he mentioned not relying on his future sight but Matt couldn’t help but wish they had been warned. How many people would be suffering less now if they had?

That just made him think about Manny’s comment about people always suffering. 

That thought was like a red hot blade plunging into his stomach and being twisted. Instead of suppressing those thoughts, Matt let the emotions run rampant. Let them evolve, twist, and transform as his mind wandered down the consequences of their actions trying to understand the impact of their actions in the abstract and the concrete. Matt genuinely didn’t understand how Manny, an incredibly empathetic and understanding person, could deal with this for not just a single planet but millions.

Matt didn’t envy the Emperor for this responsibility. It was heavy and couldn’t so easily be punched away as most issues he faced in his life. Which was the problem. These ducal problems couldn’t be punched and he and Liz’s assumption that any problems could be easily dealt with thanks to their power was both incorrect and self-defeating.

They went over a few more negative points, but they were fairly minor compared to the rest.

Thankfully, there were a few positive points to balance things out. “The Lord’s usage of a large-scale translation was surprisingly effective at pacifying the population. Having such a directly magical but beneficial effect has shown surprising returns on belief even more so than the typical displays of might used in unveiling practices. It’s a shame such feats are beyond the typical integration team, at least at such a large scale.”

Matt wished he could say he had only done that out of altruistic reasons, but that would be a lie. He had done it exactly because he thought it would have that effect.

Isabella then nodded to Westley Bakerfield. “Secondly the contacts made with the former world leaders is paying dividends in solidifying the opinions of the older generations. They are usually a situation that only solves itself when they age out but with their endorsements, we are seeing a significant uptick in support from that age group.”

Next, they went to what needed to happen going forward but that wasn’t as directed to Matt and Liz and was more directed to Palom, who seemed relieved he and his team weren’t being blamed by the two Ascenders for how the planet had turned out.

From there, it just came down to keeping the planet under control until Baron Hastra could arrive.

Matt had heard good things about the noble scion and wasn’t happy he was handing the man their mess but as Cato had said, they had larger and other responsibilities with the rest of the forming duchy.

When Baron Hastra arrived, Matt immediately felt the man's simmering anger radiate off him in waves.

The Tier 19 swept the planet with his spiritual perception, taking his time to go through each country as well as tapping into the planetary AI, before he came to where Matt was laying the foundation to create conduits between the two farthest continents.

“My Lord.” Seeing Phoenix Liz on Matt’s shoulder, Yarklan bowed a second time. “My Lady.”

“Rise, Baron Hastra. I must apologize for the mess I’m handing you.”

“My Lord is ever gracious, but your apologies are not required. I serve at your will.”

Matt raised an eyebrow, obviously enough that the baron would be able to tell his skepticism. “I would prefer you to be honest.” 

Yarklan debated his next course of action for a moment before asking, “May I speak freely then?”

“Of course. For all our faults, we won’t shy away from criticism, and that is doubly so when we request it.”

Yarklan seemed to harden his will as he said, “Then you won’t take offense when I ask you two to leave immediately. I can not begin to right Soerilia’s direction with the two of you looming over my shoulder.” 

Matt had expected Baron Hastra to ask for more resources, not to be asked to leave. But as much as it hurt his pride, he understood the Baron's position. Especially with the after action reports conclusion so fresh in his memory.

“That is acceptable Baron Hastra. Please inform us if you need any additional resources to fix the no doubt lingering issues that you will face as you take control. The administrative team is officially transferred to your control and their services are paid for the next two decades.”

Having said his piece, Matt turned and flew to the portal, not able to help but feel like he had just been scolded by a parent for something he knew he had done but wasn’t actually his fault.

That wasn’t true, this was their fault, but Matt still felt that way, which just made him feel even worse for feeling sorry for himself when other people were suffering far more because of him and his impulsive actions.

Stepping into the teleportation formation, a dozen Lizzes joined him and merged into a single body before they silently activated the formation, returning to Lilly.


Comments

Admin team seems deeply incompetent here. Should definitely have briefed leaders during initial meetings / ramp-up on standard processes, expected issues and mitigations, what constitutes "this is a problem" vs "this is going on but we have it handled", etc. Also, "if you're concerned about a thing and want more details and/or prioritized resolution, talk with person X". In our world even administrators w/ <10 years experience would have done better, let alone ones with 1000s of years of experience as is presented here. Especially with bosses that they're afraid of and/or awed by, managing up would be a very basic skill for them to have honed.

Chris Warren

“Reviewing the records, we find that you stopped a war between the Democratic Republic of Noricum and the Communists of the Greater South Plains when you first arrived but our station found you had participated in a war just months before that saw the deaths of billions with tens of thousands dying at your own hands. A play war, with spectators watching and recording everything, even channels devoted to comedic commentary. How can you be so hypocritical when they were fighting for far more valid reasons?” “Far more valid reasons”? Like what? Religion? Race? Skin colour? Resources that amount to less than pocket change? From the point of view of a galactic soldier, her “far more valid reasons” is directly equivalent to expecting him to stand there and watch while literal children literally kill each other over schoolyard tiffs, children’s toys, or a shortage of candy.

KnightRider007

TFTC! Matt and Liz have faced hardships and struggles before, but it was refreshing to see them struggle because, for once, they’re simply just not good at something. It’s humanizing for them, especially as Ascenders with superhuman capabilities (compared to the average in their tier) in just about everything else.

Mike Gierhart

Also... Admin team: "They're too terrifying to communicate with and maybe stop things from getting too bad!!" Random Baron 7 Tiers lower than them: "Get the fuck off my planet!"

KnightRider007

While Matt and Liz have certainly stuffed up, this reads as consisting entirely of arse-covering and blame-shifting on the part of the admin team. Note that nowhere in that entire screed did the admin team admit a skerrick of responsibility or fault. “We were too terrified of you to do our jobs properly” is not an excuse. Because the obvious reaction to that is to fire them all and hire someone with some guts. It *especially* implies that their seneschals, who are supposed to be the interface between them and their admin, aren’t doing their jobs. At the very least, Cato should have informed him very specifically that this supposed fear was causing issues. “It was easier without you here than with you here” - the issue that they’re blaming everything on is a very *broad* overview-level instruction (“light touch”) being applied at the coal-face level. If the boss being a micro-manager is causing problems, then surely that *shouldn’t* happen when the boss is absent. If the problem is lack of clarification and detail, then the boss being away and not being able to consult them shouldn’t make things easier. Clear lack of proper reporting by the admin team. If you’re supposedly terrified of your boss because they’re an individual of enormous destructive personal power who *supposedly* has poor impulse control and a tendency to deal with things personally… then surely you’d want to emphasise that everything is under control. Any report that states “XYZ is planning on nuking you, and also orchestrating mass rift breaks” should have “and here’s what we’re doing about it” on the same page, if not in the same *paragraph*. The infuriating bit is that MAL are being blamed here for both being too terrifying (by the admin team), and *not terrifying enough* (by the local populace). The *critical* difference is that the local population is judging based on *actual actions*, while the admin team is judging based on prejudice caused by other people (previous Ascenders). Matt’s *personal* reputation outside of combat has always been notably laid-back and tolerant.

KnightRider007

Time was of the essence, and if he left the formation center he’d lose control over the construction. => ‘the construct’. It’s already built, not in the process of being built. calm the populous down as much as you can. => ‘the populace’. “populous” is an adjective meaning “heavily populated”

KnightRider007

Agreed. Matt and Liz are far from blameless, but “we were too fucking terrified to actually communicate with you” is NOT an excuse when MAL have in no way demonstrated any basis for that fear. This comes down to literal prejudice based on their Ascender status. For those saying “But they did report their plans, Matt just didn’t read them”… any proper report stating “XYZ is about to nuke you” SHOULD have “and here is what we’ve done about it” on the same f__king page.

KnightRider007

I agree 100%. Flaws make characters interesting and relatable, and the flaws at play here are ones that occur naturally due to their progression. More importantly, they are flaws that can be fixed without changing who the characters are too much.

Josh Ward

This may sound crazy, but I see Manny considering the Dukedom assignment as a training opportunity in leadership for Matt and Liz. Sure, they'll make mistakes, but they'll learn. Manny already knows they're loyal to the Empire, so that's not the real problem. Manny is thinking long term. So what if it takes Matt and Liz a thousand years to get the hang of Duking it? That gives Manny tens of thousands of years to assign them greater responsibility within the Empire. I can see them getting other Duchys, even before the Real War (TM).

Julie Smith

That's a good philosophical question. In the US, the age of consent varies from state to state. In some states marriage is allowed down to 14 years old. Although that is very young in our culture, historically and around the world, that's not unusual. Meditating on this question, I came to the conclusion that as soon as teens can reproduce, they must be treated as adults, for there is no greater responsibility than that. So, at puberty, I told my children I would no longer punish them with corporal punishment, but I would allow them to suffer the consequences of their poor decisions. I taught them what would happen in the various scenarios I foresaw and I trusted them to do what their mother and I taught them. BTW, this account is my wife's and I'm the husband.

Julie Smith

Yes, I agree Fabian is a loose end and Matt made a mistake by letting him go free. At the very least he should be under house arrest. If he's guilty of capital crimes, he should be punished appropriately. This is why I compared him to Saruman being set free after he tried to kill Frodo. That was a worse punishment for Saruman (in his own words), but he caused death and suffering in the Shire. I expect Fabian to do the same.

Julie Smith

Edit this: "Seeing a non-significant portion of the populace start to spiral," You're missing some words here. Perhaps you want "spiral out of control" or "spiral into violence" or some such thing.

Julie Smith

Yeah, I'm not clear on that either. In any change management you over communicate these three things: 1) Why the status quo is a problem--why it MUST change. 2) What the new state will look like. 3) How the changes will personally affect each person. All of these MUST be communicated and none of them can be overcommunicated.

Julie Smith

And yet, with some of Matt's faults within myself, impatience and a slow-burning anger that eventually bursts out, his reaction is completely in character. It's completely appropriate if he were individually responsible for the planet, but he's not. He needed to check in with his admin team before he did anything. But he's not used to working with subordinates.

Julie Smith

Yes, Matt didn't choose to be a Duke. On the other hand, getting unwanted and unpleasant duties is a great way to grow. And Matt needs to grow. And the Emporer needs him to grow.

Julie Smith

That could be true. Most likely the Emperor foresaw some problems along this line and gave them a problematic world for the problems to be exposed early. It's best to fail on your first attempt. You're more humble for further instruction.

Julie Smith

The optimal answer for Ascenders is to dig in and hone their administrative and leadership skills. They also need to assess how they are perceived by other people, since they failed at that badly.

Julie Smith

Excellent resolution of this plot thread. I still want to see Kai's POV again. I love the fact that Matt and Liz screwed up. It's a rare day when one depicts the protagonists as the cause of a problem, especially in a progressive fantasy. They didn't delegate properly and didn't leave clear guidelines about how they wanted their admin team to act. Further, from an ascender team POV, they were too egalitarian and assumed knowledge and acceptance of the situation from their subordinates. From a change management POV, they needed to give the whole planet context for who they were, where they came from, and where the planet was going. This was true even using the Roland method. They could have given this info to the planets' leaders and to the admin team. I thought it was ironically funny that the admin teams did better in the ten years Matt and Liz were away than the ten years beforehand.

Julie Smith

Well done! I thought this chapter was well written and realistic. They needed a taking to to start acting like leaders instead of friends. TFTC!

1FantasyFanatic

I've been thinking about this a bit, because at first I agreed that Matt shouldn't have made this kind of mistake. However I've since changed my mind. I think this is exactly the kind of mistake an ascender would make, and especially someone like Matt. As others have pointed out, Matt and Liz learned statecraft 200+ years ago of their 300-ish years of life, and since then basically ALL they have been doing is waging a war in the most critical and intense battles of that war, where judgments had to be considered and acted upon in an instant. Combine that with the fact that Matt's childhood as an orphan was caused by a rift break due to a negligent leader, and his behavior makes quite a lot of sense. I do think the integration team got off blameless when they share a bit of blame here - even aiming the reports should have been enough to see the team was aware of these plots and had measure in place to deal with them, but they must not have thought Matt would care and had them relatively buried in the reports. That seems like a mistake that was undersold.

Jeff Wells

I think that what did it for him was the realization that people on the ground after all these years are either ignorant or delusional about their universe, just in a different manner than before. What is the point of such "unveiling" then? How does it bring the world closer to integration into Empire?

Tirinir

That's kind of insane too though? Like... how long does reading a document take at his tier 26 speeds? Surely not a meaningful amount of time. He had to wait like 15 seconds for the planatery teleporter to be ready anyway. Shouldn't a tier 26 be able to count to ten like a hundred thousand times and read a full encyclopedia in 15 seconds? Throwing away your 20 year plan after skimming a document because "rift breaks make Matt angry" seems like a whole new level of emotional reaction.

Jacob Gordon

After reading the comments, I felt like I needed to throw in my thoughts.. I thought the chapter was great, if a little forced, but Matt especially do need to learn that his ascender title holds weight, as do his noble title and being a nice guy isn't always the right. Did it seem like all the responsibility ended up on Matt and Liz? yes.. Because at the end of the day, it was theirs to take.

Jesper Hansen

3. They absolutely did have full reports written... which matt didn't bother to read fully. It's stated that matt was skimming, and also he's proven to overreact when rift breaks get mentioned. Also, they were trained in politics... but an integration isnt "politics." They have recieved no training in that... but you're absolutely right to point out that their training in politics is important... because it clearly made them massively overconfident. It's like implying that attending a poli sci 101 class would help you get a bill through congress.

Sean Shivers

2. Everything was going fine until matt came back and overreacted... why would their subordinates interfere? Further cato has specifically said his job is to carry out matt's orders... not second guess them or improve them.

Sean Shivers

1. Ya they were taught statecraft... as tier 14-20 royals entering into an existing system. Not as ascenders overseeing an intigration.

Sean Shivers

I'm very late but will still chip in... Personally I see the chapter as everyone going "We got an out, let's pass the blame". Did Mat and Liz fail to provide sufficient leadership? Yes, especially when issues occurred. Actually reacting and getting things back on track IS what leadership is. And for Mat/Liz reacting would have meant changing the directives to the administrators, replacing the administrators or interacting with planetary leaders. All of which they failed to do. So a clearly a big failure on their part. Does it make it any less a failure of the administrators leaders/the few leaders interested in making the transition? No, stepping up, showing initiative and sorting things out is how you show you're a capable leader on any level. Is it hard if the original implementation were bad? Yes, but Mat/Liz leadership were bad in the amount of attention and direction they provided. Not the amount of resources. That is, if any of them were actually capable there's plenty of room to maneuver. Also they followed an "experienced plan", so there should have been plenty of room to fix things. Like the plan they actually had for the bombs, sure it was under control. But it was also not reported to Mat in an acceptable fashion if he found out about it only during the retrospective report.

Chymor

This chapter is to highlight the difference between skill training and skill application. They can train skills in fighting and use them in battle. But until you are actually ruling, you don’t grasp the problems created by the breadth of attitudes over a large population.

Philip Widing

TFTC. This is my first time commenting on this series, and let me preface by saying I love so much of it. I can honestly say I think this was the least enjoyable chapter I've read of this series yet, because while in the context of the situation it is true that Matt and Liz made mistakes (and like any rulers who want genuine feedback, deserved to be called out) it feels like it was for all the wrong reasons/forced into the plot and ignores some of what I've been lead to understand so far with the story/characters. Firstly, during the Path arcs with Luna we learn a lot about the characters while they are learning a lot of new skills themselves. Of the many things we are specifically told they had to learn, spycraft, statecraft, manners, and leadership are definitely all included in what Luna taught them. These topics being taught by the Empire's best alone, should've been sufficient to give Matt & Liz enough information to know better ways to do things, recognize when those around them are struggling to speak out (especially when Matt is constantly shown to be dealing with it at his own guild), and take forward thinking steps to solve problems before they happen. Yet it feels like after the end of the war, the second they were told they'd be getting their Dukedom, they immediately reverted to the teenagers who were complaining about having to make their debut appearance into Noble society while acting as if they had just dropped off the path. To me, it seemed like the two just stopped paying attention to people around them, which is the only explanation I can come up with for the two of them (being trained by the best spy, and some of the best noble instructors in the universe) seemingly falling flat on their face and making these mistakes. Secondly, I've had a bit of an issue with this since they first selected their Seneschals (especially Matt's) but where the actual fuck were they this whole time? Sure, Matt's has explicitly told him he's not going to baby Matt, but it is his literal job while working under Matt to help him, and this seems like a massive thing that should've been, if not discussed, then written up into one of the stacks of reports Matt allegedly had to read.. What's the point in reading tons of reports, if the important stuff isn't even in them? Overall, maybe we need an chapter or 3 from the Seneschal's POV? because thus far, they seem like a waste of space to me aside from doing the tedious stuff, stuff that Matt so far seems to be having to do anyway. Thirdly, the paid for administration team needs to be fired and take more responsibility. This chapter did an excellent job of shifting the blame from them, when in reality they basically said "We didn't want to talk to you because we were terrified so we just let things go to shit until you left." I get it, Ascenders are scary, eat people, kill people, etc. Even more reasons that Matt and Liz should've recognized this problem for all the training they allegedly had, and all the business/guild stuff they have.. But this is ridiculous, these people are allegedly trained professionals in administering integrations, yet they never made a report explaining their plans? They didn't bother to submit something saying "These are the plots we know of, this is how we'll address them?" at this point it's as if they were just silently solving things or plotting. No shit Matt reacted so negatively, how the hell was he supposed to know? The people he hired were already going to solve this issue, yet never bothered to report it? And apparently SOMEONE is sending reports, as he and Liz are getting stacks of them to sort through. I genuinely don't think it makes sense for this administration team, to simultaneously be too terrified to speak up, yet are also plotting, solving problems and submitting reports that just so happen to leave out relevant information like "Who is going to rebel and how we're going to stop them in 10 easy steps." Also, you would think an administration team capable of handling this tier of planet, would have worked with higher tiers with more power/backing/cultivation than the Moore's, yet its specifically the 'Ascender' title that terrifies them? They were able to work around others, they even say so, yet somehow lower tier ascenders who constantly extend olive branches aren't even given the consideration to say 'hey, y'all are hovering a bit'? Lastly, I have an issue with the Seneschal's and the nobles under the Moore's.. It is slightly implied, but maybe I over read into it because it's what I think, that they should've waited until the noble that was going to be in charge of Soerillia was ready to start the integration. This point kind of touches on the previous ones in confusing me.. why didn't the seneschals indicate this was more of a precedent than just a point? Why did Matt and Liz 'rush' to do it? They allegedly had tons of training in this kind of thing (politics, noble etiquette, statecraft etc., yet they're acting on pure impulse? What would Luna have done to those impulses that led to negative outcomes, why aren't they beaten out of them? Why did Matt and Liz select this Baron for this planet, when they said they wouldn't be available for sometime? 1. It seems strange to select someone when they aren't even going to be able to do the role you selected them for until some unspecified time as 'when mommy dearest exits the rift' which as we all know can take long stretches of time. 2. Why didn't they just assign a new noble if that was going to be the case? Apparently they had others on standby on Lilly ready to help them? 3. Aristocrats tend to operate at the whim of their superiors, yet Matt and Liz (especially Liz who grew up a noble and aside from any Luna training should know better how to act) are acting as though they are both public servants to their own nobles, and combat-focused superiors with the title of Duke.. but don't worry and don't be scared! We're super nice people! (It just doesn't make sense to me how they are so all over the place even though they're supposed to be 200+ years old, have had some of the universe's best training, hereditary training, and have assistants/subordinates specifically hired to help them with these things. Now I'll be honest with myself.. maybe some of this is just not liking people criticizing the Protagonist. Who does like it when their protagonist gets essentially dressed down? But even to that, I would say I don't have as much of an issue with it if there didn't seem to be aspects of their lives that are just being conveniently forgotten/left out to make it more convenient to arrive at this situation. I didn't even particularly mind the relatively slow pacing and the losses that MLA took when they were on the path, and people were questioning how the supposed 'Best of the Best' were losing/barely eked out victories. But this whole set up/plot point and chapter (maybe even arc idk) seems like it is skipping and ignoring previously established character development and skills, in favor of handing them a loss and showing people that they're 'capable of making mistakes'.. which is obvious, Matt implies it all the time.

Reeddreed

The drunken baron was fired.

Sean Shivers

I have a feeling the Emperor knew this was going to happen. Better they learn by failure. Grand scheme of things not much harm done though.

David Wilson

He was supposed to be for Soerilia. That was explicit

Grond (James)

Hopefully not, I think that drunk idiot was just one of the prospective barons for the duchy not this planet specifically.

MinE

Mate what are you talking about exactly. Like 3/4 of what you said never happened. They didn't explain to matt and liz that isn't how things are done, they merely say "it will be done". Thy brought up no objections or suggestions. They even said they were afraid of them. Your response there doesn't even make sense. On one hand you say they were to afraid to say anything, then the other that they constantly said this isn't how it works. It's one or the other not both. 2nd they weren't even there for 10 years out of 20, how could they micromanage them exactly. 3rd no one said, nor was it show, that Matthew was given any indication that Fabian was being taken care of. The team failed to communicate that with him. All of this, should have been a sit down meeting now that Matthew and liz were back, as well for that matter. Also I didn't assign all the blame to them I said and still say matt and liz bare fault, but the council failed as well. Both need to grow and they need to grow a spine or be replaced by those that do.

Bob Bryan

Baron Hastra? Is this the same Baron Hastra who was supposed to get the planet but didn't because he started a drunken riot in a stadium?

Grond (James)

Fun chapter, I wonder how this will influence what they do in the future? Do they become more hands off or do they try to dig in and improve their own administrative and leadership skills. From the council of shadowy figures it looks like there will be plenty of opportunities to practice their more subtle skills in the future. Thanks for the story!

Luciaron

You're putting a lot of onus on the transition team there. Matt and Liz micromanaged a project they only had a passing understanding of, and the administrators did what they could under the rules their bosses stated. At multiple points, they were explicitly told "that's not how things are done" and responded with "do it anyway". What are you supposed to do, tell the insanely powerful people who sign your paychecks "no, we're doing it this way instead"? That's how you get fired, punched (Waters), or eaten (Lila). Besides, at the end of the day this isn't your planet. The bosses hold the burden of leadership, the consequences are on them. This specific incident happened solely because Matt skimmed a report, saw the words "rift break", and decided on the nuclear option (pun intended). He consulted nobody, didn't read further (and then tried to dunk on the mortals for not reading a thousand-page document), and turned a decades-long integration effort into a sudden reveal... which the transition team had as an explicit "plan B" already, and which they executed flawlessly.

WierdWebLurker

In the case of immortals, they are typically seen as "more mature" because they supposedly think on longer timescales than anybody with an expiration date. When you'll be dealing with the consequences of your actions for centuries to millennia, it pays to be more forward-thinking. Of course age doesn't always confer maturity, even for immortals. Ascenders are a rather special case even in that arena; their journey gives them great power and influence, and a focus on doing things quick and dirty with pure brute force. They are, in short, valued for being LESS mature than most immortals; that's why most people who work around them fear their power and whimsy.

WierdWebLurker

also waters murdered an entire news agency when they snooped on masked pathers... justifiably, maybe... but that is also the "hyped for public consumption" news story... there's multiple movies of him... and his authority is that he is the terror in the deep. People are right to be terrified of him.... we just see the man behind that image

Sean Shivers

Ya that's fair, calm might not be the right word... but he is a giant hammer so I'm constantly surprised he doesnt see more problems as nails.

Sean Shivers

good chappie

Elaine

An excellent chapter that really allows the lessons to hit home and make Matt and Liz understand what leading scores of planets will entail and that they need to act the part of the titles while wielding that power. It’s also nice to see that they’re learning to delegate. Delegating seems like the kind of thing that doesn’t come easy to ascenders but it necessary to achieve any long term goals in the empire. Really looking forward to the next updates.

TwoMoreYears

Non-significant -> not insignificant?

BagFullOfLizards

I think it’s cool that you can write a characters flaws so well… whenever I write I always try and put character flaws in but they always end up being stereotypical with an ending that benefits where I want the story to go… you’ve managed to build an incredible story with an amazing cast of characters and the “world building” goes without saying… keep up the good work

Bryme

Thanks for the chapter, it works for me. Makes a good point to transition Matt's thinking from local to global.

James Skinner

Acting like you have authority plays into perception. Perception plays into obedience. Obedience plays into authority.

Flopmind

I feel like you haven't read the story. We've repeatedly been told and seen that Ascenders are kind of the bees knees, that they are very stubborn, bullheaded, they generally don't like being told what to do by nearly most people. They are also wilful and just generally "I'm going to do this and you're not going to stop me". Then combine that with Matt and Liz being their boss. I think it makes sense the admin team were hesitant to go against the Ascenders orders. Many people are afraid to disagree with their boss. Now imagine your boss is one of the most influential and dangerous people around. Again I think it makes sense the admin team would be a bit scared.

Puddz

@JJB4345_80_815 Fabian causing further problems is a loose end here. I think that Matt has lost a bit of perspective. To him, Fabian's wealth is meaningless, his power weak even for his tier, and his potential to become stronger crippled. Fabian is meaningless to him and cannot even cause much damage in a developed low tier empire world, but he might be able to cause a bit of damage in a world where he has connections that is in a difficult transition period.

Etoyrt

Maybe the vacation is part of the problem. He came back and saw things not going as well as he hoped and then was built up to seeing reports of somebody intentionally trying to start rift breaks, but was somehow still in power and started freaking out thinking that "everything fell apart while I was away on vacation" and started being the reactive person responding to immediate crises that he was trained to be rather than taking the appropriate level of time to calm down and reflect. A little bit too much of the things he has had to deal with in life up till now required fast, extreme reactions. He is able to control himself more when he is within a larger, effective structure, but reading that someone who tried to start rift breaks still had power in a world he took responsibility for probably ended up, wrongly, destroying his feeling of trust in the system working on the problem. Of course, it was a good indicator that something went wrong, but it just did not go as wrong as he felt deep down due to his trauma and Ascender response style.

Etoyrt

The aspect that he can get quite angry is definitely in character, and I definitely wouldn't call him calm in general so much as focused. My concern is just that the specific cause-effect pairing seems somewhat out of character given what we've been shown in terms of his notable past anger incidents. I could maybe buy the increasing frustration justification angle better if he wasn't just back from what amounts to a decade-long vacation.

Andrew K

But to explain the disparate systems... After the theocratic schism and sundering of the realm... each of these systems developed largely independently and then reconnected... so obviously they have different systems and cultural values. Sure, it's a bit of artifice to showcase and include a bunch of tropes by having all the systems exist together... but i really love it. So (for any students of das capital) the question becomes, what material conditions have led each system to its outcome.

Sean Shivers

Which is why in my original comment I point out the flaw in both not finding advisors that advice clearly (honestly i.e. plainly and truthfully) for Matt and Liz to understand and also failing to get that same info in other ways such as through spies. As for it never being a subordinates job I vehemently disagree and think everyone is responsible for their own communication. A subordinate does however not have responsibility for their superiors lack of communication skills. Normally these subordinates would have taken their responsibility and clarified their opinions and now they did not dare to due to Matts poor soft communication skills and lack of self-awareness. That is chiefly on Matt which I think is where you are going though your absolutes irk me coming from a team based and hierarchic environment.

Adurna

Overall The problem seems to be that they were not taught how to manage people in there Training or It's the team's fault for not Actually doing the job the right way because you're Client is there Telling you How to do your job the wrong way. Granted I can understand if they are afraid of angrying a ascender And possibly losing your life or fall behind your job and not doing it right and that angering them. But my biggest thought is Someone engineered this situation to teach them a lesson. About being a ascender in Politics.

hachetnif

ya this seems fair... i read his increasing frustration culminating in this... but having actually tested it would be a lot clearer justification for matt's response given the collateral damage. That being said i like this characterization of matt more... he's always been a bit too calm imo given the extremes of his life.

Sean Shivers

I think the question is what an adult is and what adult thinking and acting is like. This is an interesting philisophical discussion that I feel recieves insufficient focus academically and by the larger public. Perhaps there are certain categories of choices those who are not old immortals cannot be expected to handle appropriately, thus requiring guidance whilst there are other types of decision even the average teenager can handle. The big question is what legal and social lines in the sand should define different levels of independence and self-responsibility. The wrinkles is that the exact proper points are always going to differ from person to person, but ththat would be too complicated to actually discriminate each case.

Etoyrt

I would go so far as to say that ASTER is the only one who WANTS to be involved in politics. Liz has been running from them her whole life and matt just seems to want to do well at whatever is on his plate... and manny put this on his plate.

Sean Shivers

eh, it's never the subordinate's job to ensure clear communication. From their perspective the communication WAS clear and the guy who murdered a city's worth of people decided not to follow their advice. Pushing at that point is just rude.

Sean Shivers

i mean... imagine if someone sent you a report that one of your houseplants was planning on staging a coup. Would they expect you to uproot it and set it on fire? Ya, it's definitely a learning opportunity for more than just matt and liz... but we only have matt's perspective and i feel like matt hasnt been shy about asking questions either. So if he noticed the report, if he cared, (if i was one of the admin) i would expect him to ask "what's being done about this" before throwing away a couple of decades of work.... that being said the whole thing IS a very understable breakdown of communication... and I'm sure will be the subject of a few new unveiling paradigms.

Sean Shivers

There are definitely bits that stand out, like Matt overreacting when the team had a plan to foil the assassination attempt or the fact that they simply weren’t there but the people who WERE there didn’t feel like they had the authority to make decisions, that all makes sense. The emphasis on their idea of a “light touch” being to blame makes less sense to me, especially with how universal that concept seems to be.

Jacob

I said this in an earlier comment about why the admin team and everyone is so scared Matt and Liz. It's because Ascenders typically hate politics and only focus on personal power. People in the Empire fanatically worship them or want to use them for personal gain so Lila and waters build a reputation of being extremely violent to people that annoy them by punching or eating them. That way people simply think the cost of involving them in their political games is not worth it as it will almost always result in being eating or violently beaten. Matt, Liz and Aster are pretty much the only Ascenders that want to be more involved I'm politics but that are dealing with the reputation of Lila and waters. That's why everyone is so scared of going behind there back or not following the orders to the word. It has been mentioned numerous times that Lila likes eating people, waters started killing people on his capital world who kept changing his rule to the point where the Emperor needed to personally step in and calm things down and Shadow literally tried to run away from the last political meeting to the point where the Emperor needed to chase her down and drag her there.

Jake Thorpe

The trigger event seemed off to me last chapter, but this one really helped crystalize what seemed wrong about it to me. Matt is supposed to be a "relatively reasonable" Ascender, has shown plenty of ability to pay attention to detail and consider long-run planning, and accepted a plan that would imply some rift breaks in safer areas. Even with Matt having some case of historical anger issues and justifiably having some serious issues with dangerous rift break, it just seems off that a single person's *unexecuted plan* for rift breaks would trigger such an extreme response with a *systemic* focus (rather than a more individualized response) without even a direct implication the admin team messed up. It really feels to me like the trigger would have played better if the report had something about the guy having *actually tested causing a rift break somewhere* and that's what made Matt snap (before he got to reading something about the test being sufficiently middle-of-nowhere that the admin team could make sure it was actually safe, and letting it proceed on that basis so as not to tip their hand while they advanced their plan to remove the guy).

Andrew K

did someone say political philosophy? I think a lot of the empire coming off as a bit too shiny is that we're looking at it largely from matt's perspective. I don't think the republicans are morons either.... misguided for sure... but manny's concept? Ideal? I don't remember which.. is "i am not a tyrant" so it's not the system that is superior... it's that matt got lucky to be born under manny rather than his father. Overall the politucal systems are the intersection of hobbes's leviathan with legitimate superpowers... the existence of magic, in many ways, sets political philosophy at that most basic "might makes right" because so much of modern political thought isnutterly dependent on equality... WHICH CANNOT EXIST in this world. To me, far more fascinating are the guilds and the corpos... which, in many ways, defy hobbsian dogma despite the existence of tiers.

Sean Shivers

can we tho?

Sean Shivers

Well... it's still the wrong FRAMING not the wrong idea. "Leaving more of this to intermediaries would have provided a few benefits..." would be how i would frame it

Sean Shivers

This whole chapter doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. Why does "light touch" translate to "don't do or talk to anyone, ever"

austin kutz

I like the chapter, though I hope that this has some long term impact outside of just emphasizing that Matt and Liz can fail. It’s nice to read and fun to think about the unveiling politics but I find myself struggling to care that much about some random tier 3 planet that i doubt will have any real effect on the overall story outside of this small thing. I guess I just hope we can move onto stuff that is more impactful to the overall plot than just the character progression soon, or at the very least mention other characters reacting to this and thus emphasizing the actual need for them to go through this plot wise.

Enzo Elacqua

I am honestly very meh on the fighting stuff. I care most about the politics and relationships (and worldbuilding). It's not like they're going to die in combat... and preparation for the true war is gonna be the main thing to focus on... the best ways to do that are 1. Staying fighting fit. 2. Establishing secure bases of power. 3. Developing new and powerful technology. 4. Securing good will among other immortals (and immortals to be). 5. Moving closer to an authority. The war was also good but mostly because after eric died there was a real sense of danger for the first time since minkala

Sean Shivers

Yea waters is known to punch people who annoy him instead of ignoring them like the medic in the rift and Lila would be even worse she's been mentioned to just eat people she doesn't like. You need to realise that people in the Empire fanatically worship them or want to use them for personal gain. So they develop the reputation of being extremely violent to people that annoy them so they don't get people constantly trying to involve them in there political games for personal gain. Ascenders typically only focus on personal power and hate politics it's only Matt, Liz and Aster that want to be more involved but they are dealing with having the reputation of the other Ascenders.

Jake Thorpe

I get what you are saying but its more that the story is shifting gears after the war.

C_Mantis

So I have been enjoying the content of the past 25 chapters but to me it has felt more like content for a .5 book. There is good stuff here but the story hasn't really moved on since the war ended.

david

I just don't like the idea of someone who was willing to sacrifice millions of lives as a DISTRACTION roaming about the land, even without access to services. Matt even allowed him to retain whatever wealth he'd accrued. Even without access, what ELSE can Fabian possibly do? He's a loose thread and a loose cannon. His morality is completely based upon "what's best for me?" He can't be a complete moron, otherwise he wouldn't have reached his position in the first place (or stayed alive from others seeking his position). I worry about him causing further havoc.

JJB4345_80_815

Not necessarily, there are psychological studies to support that train of thought.

Louis McIntyre

Yeah, the report should have been here's the situation, here's our solution, especially with Matt's well known sensitivity to anything to do with rift breaks.

Kaine Eine

I don't think the others were imprisoned, they all got trials and the Empire doesn't usually imprison people so unless they got more standard native punishments Fabian actually was punished worse, he essentially got a trial on that Matt using his authority found him guilty and sentences him with the punishment of exile, he basically lost access to most services provided by the Empire

Thomas Todd

I don't think virgil's slaves count as willing

George

Yeah, I don't want to overly critical (because overall I love the story and support it here lol) but I find the political worldbuilding to be kind of weak in general. The great powers feel like 7 randomly chosen political tropes from our world that haven't properly been adapted to the magical world of the story. Like the Empire, for all the fuss they make about it being a hereditary system you have to remember it's a system that's run by immortals. The whole point of hereditary monarchies is that the seat of power is taken by a descendent when you die so that power structures stay stable in the face of human mortality. But in PoA you can just like... not die? And be King forever? And ok, sure, people ascend. Eventually. After multiple thousands of years. The main reason hereditary monarchies were so stable in our world is that death is often an unplanned event. For most of human history you could just randomly get sick and die within the week, and you needed someone to take command if you did. You also needed everyone to agree on who that someone was, and you needed plans in place if they also randomly got sick and died a month later. Hence most monarchies settling on some form of succession like primogeniture with rigid rules by the middle ages. The ones that didn't collapsed into chaos when they got unlucky. But when you have an Ascension planned out in advance by centuries, you don't need some careful plan on who inherits authority when people start dying randomly. Because they're all immortals! You have ample time to select the perfect successor and train them up. Once you have everyone on board than they're inheriting your position when you're gone, it doesn't matter they're not related to you. Also after thousands of years of rule you'll have how many kids? How many grandkids? By the time Mara and Leon ascend how many decedents are they going to have lol? They clearly can't be training all of them to be successors so do they just pick one at random? Imagine being the firstborn child of a King and waiting 6000 years to inherit your title lmao. And for the one's that don't get picked, what's even the point of being part of an Empire they might as well be commoners. Finally the Empire clearly has a pretty blasé attitude towards promoting talented commoners anyway. Matt's a 'Duke' but he clearly wasn't born into it, he's just one of (presumably many) commoners that became nobility due to their capabilities. There are also presumably a bunch of nobles who've had their titles stripped due to bad governance (Like the Baron of Matt's home world). So if people can hold their titles forever, being a direct descendent doesn't guarantee inheritance, commoners can gain authority based on merit, and nobles can lose their titles based on incompetence, is it really an Empire? Seems more like a meritocratic dictatorship to me lol. And that's just the Empire, I could rant about the Republic too but this comment is too long already. Don't get me wrong I love the series but the politics isn't great.

Lorevi Q

Manny himself is attentive to this and I think that our main character's might grow to see it too. They probably won't see it as much as Manny who actively tries to plan just in case he has a worse successor and on some level thinks cultivation might be more trouble than it is worth if one ignores military necessity, but this is also a chance to recognize in new ways the inherent problems in the Empire. Where before they were warriors wanting to protect the Empire (which they considered obviously thr best and worth helping) and make it a better place, now they are onto dealing with the making it a better place part and will have to deal with tough questions about how the Empire functions. Maybe, enough time, attention, and reflection will create new realizations.

Etoyrt

TY FIXED

C_Mantis

TY FIXED

C_Mantis

if nothing else it tie ascenders to the empire, so as long as its clear they wont do a disastrous job they get the responsibility

DANTE

“When Baron Hastra arrived, Matt immediately felt the man's simmering anger radiant off him in waves.” “radiant” ==> “radiate”

NotEnoughPixels

“It was more the Lord and Lady’s instance that we act” “instance” ==> “insistence”

NotEnoughPixels

Maybe one angle could be Aunt Helen or some other turbo old figure mentioning how absolutely awful it will be for Manny to raise an heir after all his centralization and weakening of the hereditary nobles, might have to try a dozen times before he gets another nigh selflessly benevolent figure to succeed him. Because if heir is somebody shit, then wow things will be Glorious Kingdom levels of shit in the Empire. But also that is after our peeps ascend to next realm, so doesn't really matter to them?

crusaderstar

Right like the report easily could have read there are X number of Politically powerful people we are currently working towards containing and have plans in place to prevent incidents listed below.

Discordian23

Na I'm happy to say I hate that trope. Manny is what we have seen. Hes doing his best but he cant do everything. The Empire itself is till a empire with everything that comes with that.

C_Mantis

I have to say, I’m HIGHLY skeptical of everyone immediately deciding it was their fault for not being big enough assholes. “Why weren’t you colder and more authoritarian” is just completely the wrong framing.

Jacob

Fixed ty

C_Mantis

Hehehe, that would be FUN to deliver.

Kenneth

Lol, that inspired a line of dialogue I'll have to use at some point. Have an outline for a superhero/villain story i keep fiddling with. "Sure, I might SAY I want to take over the world, but I'm really having a grand bit of fun just shitting profusely in everyone's cheerios!"

Throngler In Chief

To be fair, a good portion of why Matt has the same opinion as Liz is that most of his early interactions with the highest rank of nobles were explicitly ones who were helpful and kind to him. I.e. Manny back at the Playpen at the start. Liz’s parents, Manny again, then even the other royals at his tier 10 tournament were friendly.

CringeWorthyStudios

Thank you for the chappy! Friendly possible edit: Quote: The administrative team is officially transferred to your control and their services are paid for for the next two decades.” for for ==> for Okay, I have a problem with Fabian L'ancor (the guy ready to cause rift breaks which started this whole mess) basically going free if they are arresting and judicial trial-ing people in this chapter. Doesn't that guy deserve to be arrested, tried and incarcerated for his crimes? Yes, Matt acted rashly. Still, I don't like Palom. Maybe it's just the reader in me not liking the protagonist being criticized for trying to be helpful and not recognizing the reality of the situation, but I think that if you don't think that you are properly able to perform your job for whatever reason, then you should either address that issue or resign. Billions of lives are at stake, and that requires somebody in charge willing to speak up on their behalf and wellbeing. Matt TRIED to do what was best and acted rashly. Palom instead tried to do what he believed Matt and Liz wanted him to do, rather than what was best for the billions of lives under his care, which is what Matt and Liz ACTUALLY wanted him to do.

JJB4345_80_815

Big Bad Evil Guy

Tijay Arnie

I don't hope Manny and his crew at the top will be revealed to be evil or something, this is a generally cheery story. Just it feels bad when the philosophy of 'I must control the mortals for their own good' gets reinforced, without any pushback. I look forward to the latter half!

crusaderstar

Big Bad Evil Guy. It's an Table Top RPG term. I've never understood why anyone would want to take over an entire world. Running a whole world is WAY too much work.

Kenneth

Yeah the lack of self-awareness is definitely a big part.

Adurna

BBEG?

Patrick S.

Ascender fanboys are beyond anything we can imagine. It’s hero worship times a billion. Now imagine every person in the empire is like that because basically they are. It has been repeated time after time just how many kids die trying to be one. Heck it was a stipulation in the cease fire that less kids were allowed to die. “Ascenders do what they want and who am I to question them?” This happened bc Matt and Liz were not being serious in their duties as a Duke and Duchess.

Pararably

Isnt ist said that that is a legacy from previous dynasties?

Patrick S.

I think they did not take into account exactly how scary their Ascender title is, and the impact it has on people. These people have seen the way Duke Waters behaves, and all the movies and legends about all the various ascenders. Crazy stuff!

Tommy

I get that. I'm really just trying to show that while the Empire is doing its best its a long way from perfect. There are issues systematic and individual. I dont want the Empire to be perfect and as we go into the latter half of the series well see more issues. Some fixable some not.

C_Mantis

also it's like socializing a feral cat... ascenders are largely competitive perfectionists... so challenge them to "win" and socializing and you can get even duke waters to be more than a murderhobo

Sean Shivers

“Matt was about to say like people but stopped himself. It wasn’t often, but he had seen immortals who tended to treat mortals like children instead of fully capable adults but he knew saying that would derail the conversation. Instead he ended it on, “I would want to be treated.”” Super glad Matt noticed this. Mortal adults are not children. Sure they may not have cultivation and superpowers but they can still reason and act as adults. Great chapter. TFTC!

Tommy

From what I remember, the people advising them did do the whole, "Have you considered why we don't usually do things this way?" thing you are talking about and then Matt+Liz said, "Yeah, but we still want to." That is totally on Matt and Liz I think. It was their choice made against advice. I think it is a little different when considering communication failures within the plan. Nobody, as far as I recall, advised Matt and Liz to consider appearing less personable to help smooth over the transition. Furthermore, someone sent over a rereport to Matt's desk about someone planning to cause rift breaks as well as assassinate him without notes in the same document linking to whatever their plans are in managing this situation. Personally, I think it is understandable on the administrator and noble's behalfs (though if they do not also realize they have room to grow in dealing with Matt and Liz productively I consider that pretty bad). The ones I blame most for the communication failure are Matt and Liz's fancily named personal admin assistants. If they are unable or unwilling to work in the ways which make them most effective at helping Matt and Liz then I think they owed it to them to have told them as such and suggest someone else. It feels even weirder to me when I can recall how Matt's has been given explicit permission to call Matt stupid and bluntly tell him why his chosen course should be adjusted. He even took advantage of this multiple times. I can understand that this style of communication is not this guy's prefered method. I am sympathetic. I think it is in the long term something Matt should adjust to so that that man can work in his preferred style, but in this society's scale they are just beginning to work with each other. Some willingness to adapt to the brand new Duke who has spent most of his life in combat should be the natural reaction of someone who knows they will work for an Ascender, especially after the experience helping Matt with the guild. Communication failures all around.

Etoyrt

Ok sure so once again. Are Waters and Lila both assholes or psychopaths and go around pasteing people? Because they don't seem to be. Now sure we only have the one perspective of Matt and Liz as their interactions but it doesn't make sense based off their personalities. When Lila showed up to the pather tournament people were not afraid they didn't run for the hills. They cheered for an idol.

Daniel S

Yes and an advisors job is to advice, not to hope things come across. Honest Advisors with capital A if you will. It is not about them lying, it is about omission and lack of amending of communication issues, something that should be an advisors expertise.

Adurna

Was a good chapter, as others said glad they failed, glad there was feedback. I have some quibbles about why didn't the admin team say anything when Matt started rampaging, was he too fast? Were they just so terrified they didn't do their jobs? But on reflection overall issue for me in this arc is a bigger thing. I think it stems from way earlier in the story when the governmental structure for the Empire was made, and Matt was a tiny tiny fish so it didn't particularly matter and he didn't know much about it. Now though he's a important cog in that structure, and upon close inspection it hasn't changed. Not only is the Empire ruled by the strong, normal for a cultivation story, their supreme god king dictator Manny is perfectly benevolent. He has maybe a smidge of nepotism, but otherwise is a perfect figure, warm to family and friends, works endlessly towards the welfare of the realm, has no bias or corruption or even selfishness really. And he doesn't want to oppress so he works within the laws of the realm he inherited. There are corrupt guilds and shitty nobles, but throughout the story the solutions I remember are always if only Manny had more power, his investigators more numerous, if only hereditary nobles didn't exist and he could just appoint good people, things would be better. The Empire is also presented as (and seems to be) the best of the Great Powers. The most just, the best for mortals and low tiers to live in. Despite that afaik they have zero input into, let alone control of the laws that govern their lives, or how their taxes are spent. Noticed that again when Matt mentioned elected governors might fail psych evals, evals that I doubt Soerilla has any say in. I'm not saying this is your philosophy, or even really your plan, this story is super long trololo, and political philosophy and the ethics of the Empire's power structures are very much not its focus. Which is fine, but politics has been growing in importance since our MCs became sovereigns over billions. And the story seems to reinforce again and again that not only is a benevolent nigh-omnipotent dictator possible, it's the best possible form of governance in the entire known universe. Tons of fantasy stories (that I love) have feudal power structures with absolute monarchies, I think what irks me when it comes up in this one is that there is zero criticism of it (except by clearly evil non-Empire folk, or delusional morons in the Republic), zero problems, it's a perfect government, only improved if Manny had more power. Wouldn't matter so much except our MCs are now key parts of it, and Matt who started from the absolute bottom as an orphan has basically no differences in opinion from Liz, heir of monarchs, except for sympathy for mortals and low tiers, which in this case led him to be too soft because as he noted he wanted to treat them like people. This is a long tome lol, I enjoy the story plenty, just had many thoughts to share on this particular issue.

crusaderstar

ah but they were, matt just needed to read appendix 37b and it would have clearly.... wait... wait why are youndraigfing me awyay

Sean Shivers

I really love how it shows that Matt and Liz were basically trained to be living weapons on the Path, but that's lead to flawed approaches to non-combat and non-research situations. Aster's time at the academy probably tempered those same issues for her.

Shane

i mean... killing hundreds of thousand of people pretty definitively counts as heinous. Also they aren't working off of matt and liz... they're working off expectations set by duke waters and lila...

Sean Shivers

I completely agree on the admin's plans and solutions SHOULD have been included in the reports.

JJB4345_80_815

I had to look that up. I always assumed people said peace. Man I hate English.

Aki Foxtail

yaaa... i feel like liz spent so long running away from her king/queen parents that she psychologically rejects it still even though she earned it for herself the way she always wanted

Sean Shivers

Maybe I just don't understand as I'm not a person from the Empire. But I can't really empathize with the Admin team leader. Why is he so afraid? Sure Ascenders can kill millions like flipping their hand. Matt and Liz as far as we can see from our perspectives seem to be very affable people though. They aren't assholes or psychopaths when interacting with people. They haven't been recorded doing heinous things unless you count all the war footage of their kills as heinous. The fear just doesn't make any sense to me. Are Ascenders known for turning people into paste for disagreeing with them or something?

Daniel S

Thanks Mantis! Thanks Dae! Glad Matt does keep Liz up to date, even trust can always be supported. Curious that he does so in the Ascenders chat though. Eventually sure, but immediately stands out. I guess it is basically how some friends keep each other up to date on interesting things. Lets others give advice and maybe lighten the mood for him. -or just speediest, that works as well. -I like the bits like this where he is shown to be a thoughtful and caring spouse as well. Yeah, it is a bit of a disaster horror feel to it. There is a reason the genre is "System Apocalypse" and not just "system". Even if it it not an apocalypse there would be enough chaos and fear to count as an apocalypse. Sorellia certainly isn't in an apocalypse but the chaos and riots occurring seem realistic. -I would guess the religious country is one of the heavy rioters. I wonder if anybody like the dictatorship is celebrating... or is it more akin to a known ruler to an unknown ruler. A feint hope doesn't cause celebration. Maybe too tired to have hope. Huh, it is good to recall they are not alone. I'd forgotten of the option as Matt as Matt is the MC and not often portrayed as a large leader. It's good for reader and character to be reminded Matt is a leader with subordinates they can trust. It is the hope that most leaders are competent under pressure, it is not always the case. I am happy to see these ones are, but they have also had time to mentally accept the situation of the Empire. [Synthetic manipulation] sounds like a weird one. Is that plastics or are there other styles of synthetic? I appreciate the mention of psych evals for public office. I wonder if another rule is an [AI] that has not been suspiciously replaced. -I wonder how common a psych eval is amongst nobles? It is a bit unfortunate that those who wish to leave to set up kingdoms are unlikely to pass such evals but also letting them leave may in fact be the least contentious route. As not allowing people to leave might spark revolt in everyone. I wonder why the Queens of the Queendom sought to run a separate monarchy? Just a change of pace, new experiences, a method of increasing wealth? It sorta might feel akin to an Empire version of Veil worlds. Not only the leaders leave the Empire. I really feel like Matt is blindly focused on people not using the thousand page document and not thinking about how long a T0 would take to read such a document and understand the implications within. That is something few people can read in a single waking day. And most people are too anxious to get answers to sit down and calmly read without zoning out. -it's realistic, I am criticizing Matt, not Mantis. It is a terrifying look at PoA to see how casually they can take over. How they can see all and stop any form of revolution with a wave of their hand. I half want to see this from a different perspective, the other part says it would just be a more literal horror story. A fair amount of movies have had the takeover aspect, enough to get an idea of it. Helplessness is not a fun PoV to read. -I wonder what level of leaders were inciting the masses. Also curious is their personal knowledge and reasoning, such people might be good leaders that would pass the psych eval. Trying to oust a true dictator is not a bad thing. The question about their knowledge is more meaning if they could pass a basic intelligence test. Just always curious to see what sorts of people there are, some people are forthright and others less so. -Also relevant is how much worse it might be in some other GPs. A veil world into the Federation is auto-dystopia and seeing families separated for assignment and brainwashing. -I wonder how much immigration occurs in various GPs. So immigrants are allowed, just not the planet. -Probably some leeway in free immigration for kids born after integration to parents born before. I do enjoy the idea of people being intelligent, reporters asking truly important questions is certainly counted in that. -And people standing true to their convictions, particularly when it is hard but right to do so. Similarly realistic is the power of greed. It does bring up more philosophical questions about life and freedom. I will take the housekept question as an innocent thing of not wanting their pets harmed. -I do blame Mantis for the idea of it being anything but empathetic on what is family. -_- Huh, an interesting question, a play war. Certainly one the readers were curious about. Also a good way of showing people did their homework. A pretty good answer to boot. Ominous ending note. I wonder how accurate magical stories in Sorellia are. If creation myths have a basis in truth, possibly deliberately. If not deliberate it would certainly be interesting to see how various creation myths form, how closely they end up mirroring truth and mirroring each other. What might cause various differences. Honestly, seeing society develop sounds intriguing, long and dull but exciting as well. -Also curious how mythological animals would arise. How closely they would match real mythical creatures, or rifts. Is there any noticeable cause or effect? Any new monsters forming from new thoughts? Probably impossible to fully check a realm, but the immediate area seems doable. Liz is also a good spouse. -Besides, I am sure Matt won't mind biting her in the literal ass later. Immortals messing with mortals was something I think Margaret Thresh was annoyed with, maybe even Liz once upon a time. I admit it might be fun to do, but feels a bit... belittling(?) on the other side of things. -Does make Liz seem more like her Parents though. :) Wasn't belittling then as MAL had more understanding, they were in on the joke. At least as far as the readers were aware. Huh, I wonder how integration would be affected if a population was going through an epidemic or plague. -Just thinking as how hard it was to get everyone to vaccinate against a clear issue. I wonder if the Empire allows denial of vaccinations, or is universal healthcare so efficient it never starts. There is a fine line between horror and bureaucracy... -Same with media and misinformation. I do wonder how state media fare in Sorellia, do they handle it better or worse? On one hand they are used to printing what they are ordered, but the person ordering them and restricting them is different. Free media can be more varied in purely opinion journalism and desiring freedom, so hard to say if they would do better or worse in the sorta censorship -I do wonder with how much history is kept online how much of the past might be revealed to the public. Would a reveal of lacking journalistic integrity or seeing their smiling politician ousted for corruption and abuse of power be useful or sew more fear of the overlord. -Well, I guess I wasn't the only one thinking about how it might turn out. A world of millions some would act in such a way for the idea to be seen for the readers and inhabitants. It's not 5 name Mantis, but I still see Baron Hastra and see Hastor. Yeah, after action reports are gonna be brutal. As noted in the musical Twisted, sometimes trying to be good is enough, it is what can be hoped for. Without foreknowledge it is hard to do better. -I think the only real big issue was not relying on the experts, letting the leaders decide was an attempt to be gentle but they didn't know best themselves. Again though, it feels belittling to make decisions for others. -Getting others to criticize is better for improvement but rougher. -I wonder if this time the worry of his reaction is only from him being an Ascender or if that has been emphasized by his reaction at Sorellia. Matt and Liz were probably a bit of micromanagers, but to be fair it was their first planet and integration. It was their first veil world. They got overly excited and attached. Well, hard to not be excited, just using it properly. -It sucks to not be able to enjoy the experience, but it is you feeling like a hostile takeover so maybe few ever fully enjoy the experience. Huh, certainly interesting to incite a coup before seeming to arrive. I am not sure I want to say ensuring life is too soft, but it is an interesting idea. A fun, well for us, and informative after action report for sure. I do appreciate a native being present in this after action report. Though Wesley might be too distant as well. Maybe some other more involved leader or representative would be good. To be fair, some idiots ignore even proof. There is no foolproof plan. Also interesting is how some planets might form different, less lethargic forms of government. Or maybe it is less government and human nature but social norms. Closer to how a planet's population might be nurtured to be more proactive and efficient. A culture of progress I guess. Hard to create a fully unique system that does so though, harder still to create it and have it as a throwaway culture. Probably best to leave it as a vague possibility some planets have. Oof, having to meet expectations instead of being kind sucks. It's not always easy to be the boss and you can't always be the nice boss. They did mention being Ascenders, and I think they mentioned being the ones responsible for the gaining of planets... maybe. Still, as noted they didn't give weight or gravitas to what was said. -I know it is said elsewhere but I feel like in PoA I recall Alyssa saying that appearance is another weapon to use. They certainly learned something of how to use personality and appearance to get what they want. They didn't apply their lessons to more of their life. It does suck to not be able to fully relax, another reason I think the various Ascenders love the Ascender's chat. -New plan, get the GP leaders into a leader's chat. Have them bemoan to each other how little control they actually have despite their titles. Would not really cause peace but might improve relations and how wars turn out. I do enjoy that time travel is still a theoretical Talent despite Mantis having a law against it. I think, might just be a law for it occurring in the story and not the realm when the story isn't there. Yeah, Matt doesn't want to be the Emperor. But Manny felt something when Matt wanted to support the Realm, so maybe he'll get an Aspect like Manny about putting people before himself. I don't quite think so, but it's an option. Aster getting that would be interesting. I wonder how many Ascenders get a Domain not directly aimed at combat. Sometimes psychology can have as much of an effect as magic. A weird version of sufficiently advanced tech being indistinguishable from magic. Yeah, this was a rough experience for Matt. It will be interesting to see him improve in leadership and lordship in addition to his typical improvements in combat or aperology. Yeah, I do want more PoV chapters. I feel next chapter will be Matt & Liz discussing and adding criticism. Less dreary options are the Ascender chat teasing them. Maybe the cabal commenting on their ability, though I think the criticism is already there so they wouldn't have much purpose in the story. Maybe when Aster had a chance and runs her duchy better they will compare and contrast the goals. Returning to Sorellia for a PoV isn't terrible, but maybe the same character would keep it more grounded. This has been fun to see for the world building.

nolan saylor

Their advisors seemed honest... even matt points out that he recieved pushback multiple times for his soft approach. It seems more like a failure to understand the way people communicate outside of the context of a secret super soldier war bunker. If someone did push back against them i have a hard time imagining matt or liz getting the message: "that is a bad idea." Which is what a political advisor trying to be careful would MEAN when they SAY "are you sure?" Or "we can do it that way but..." or "Other integrations have found success by..." because they are used to people calling them idiots when they're idiots... not carefully worded cautions.

Sean Shivers

They are also ascenders and even normal nobles have issues with people not speaking up. Not preempting reluctance to be the one giving critique is a large part of the mess-up.

Adurna

The empire gives the people who complete the path dukedoms to make sure they are invested in the empire. They also encourage them to make business in the empire for the same reason Ans the greate powers also don't like nomadic ascenders because they can sometimes start conflicts on boarders.

Peter Low

i feel like it's more, "yes you messed up... your biggest mistake was not understanding the effect you have on normal people. Followed by a failure to understand how people communicate in the political field. Followed by a failure to trust the team you assembled."

Sean Shivers

fixed ty

C_Mantis

Loved the chapter! I’ve always thought about how a nonviolent induction into a world like that would go Edit/grammar suggestion: when they switch to the positive points, there’s a line that starts off with “She then nodded…”. It took me a moment to think about who “she”, I feel like a name there could have been helpful.

Eric Alex

In the world Manuel and Matt live in, personal power is absolutely the linchpin of stability in any political structure. You could appoint a very competent administrator who will be just pushed aside in the struggle for resources. People who are actually doing the work can only do that work because the rule of law is backed by powerful individuals on top.

Tirinir

honestly, not that bad. Sure, very sloppy unveiling and transition. But as baby nobles first planet's goes, this is the best sort of fuck up possible. And, if we're being super critical, the fact that the reports matt read, didn't include the admin's team plans and solutions is a MAJOR fuck up entirely not on him. All in all, meh. These are brand new nobles, whose training and experience for the past couple centries was all about warfare, and this is their very first planet and it being a veiled world is kind of on hard mode. As far as I'm concerned they did as well as Manny could expect.

Draeysine

if you check the last chapter Matt was skimming read that and reacted without looking into it more. Not a great reaction but thats Ascenders for you.

C_Mantis

Bad soldiers is kind of unfair. Ascenders are more like walking WMDs and they fulfill that role just fine. I will concede that granting administrative control of a multi-planetary sub-empire to people whose only qualification is that they're really, really super good at killing stuff is a... Questionable practice though

ValkyriaObscura

It's refreshing to see characters that aren't all knowing perfect people. Matt and Liz make mistakes and there are ramifications for it. Additionally, they are always looking to improve. People that are great at fighting aren't always the best rulers or bureaucrats and learning this lesson now of trust the teams you hire to be the experts, while simple is always hard to do when you think you have an answer or aren't satisfied with the pace of progress

badw0lf

I think that Matt is blaming himself a bit too much for this. So many of the problems ultimately stem from people not being scared enough of them and other people being too scared of them to really tell them about such things. Ascenders are scary, but it is part of these people's job to work with them. If they are incapable of working with Ascenders without intentionally doing a subpar job out of fear that doing well instead of precisely following instructions would lead to their death then that is their failure. If the administrators were in that position they should have said so before being hired. If the other nobles feel this way they have an obligation to the people who will be their lord in the long term to work out this issue. Really, I blame their fancily named personal assistants the most. They gave some useful advice and information, but is it not their job to fill in these big blind spots? Why did they not tell the new pair of duke's that their image might make people not take them seriously and their title would make the people working with them on the Empire end fear them overmuch in the wrong ways and for the wrong reasons? I consider that a very central part of their job. They knew they were helping Ascenders enter the work of politics and business after they spent the majority of their life since childhood training, fighting monsters, and fighting in war. Also, why in the world would anyone think Matt is more likely to be angered by intervention than swiftly eliminating someone trying to cause rift breaks? Has their access to the EmpireAI been cut off for the last 300 years? Can they not do research? Do they not have the imagination to think that if crazy Ascenders can do whatever they want and might destroy you that they might be more likely to destroy you for failure to follow the spirit of their instructions than the literal wording? Is that not the more frightening scenario? If it is, but they still did then why? Would having followed the literal instructions have protected them well legally? If so, that feels like malicious compliance for understandable, but selfish reasons. I do not expect people to be better, but I expect personnel shuffling to place those most able to avoid these failings under Ascenders.

Etoyrt

Genuinely... 90% of personal problems arise from differing communication styles. For matt the mistake is obvious... he's only ever known clear, direct communication. For liz, i imagine it's a sort of willful ignorance... combined by being insulated by powerful (eccentric) parents. She is comfortable and has always been comfortable talking with the various kings and queens and the emperor... so why wouldn't normal people be comfortable talking with her?

Sean Shivers

True, but they should have met with matt and liz, so should matt and liz to be fair, so they got to know each other better. They knew the job they signed up for. This isn't new its historically why bad goverment and armies failed. As the politicians in charge, they should have known this. Instead they keep making excuses for their actions and putting everything on matt and liz without admitting fault as well. There was a breakdown of communication between mat/liz/aids and the people working under them. THAT is where everything went wrong and that needs to be addressed and fixed, but it wasn't even brought up.

Bob Bryan

It was explained as a way to tie ascenders down and distract them from inciting armed conflict out of boredom. And what could be a better distraction than rewarding them with something that sounds awesome at first but then turn into a ton of work and stress.

Leander

Yes they totally screwed up, it’s nice to see in a story sometimes. It’s should have been made clearer to him that he should have let his subordinates know what he was doing so they could have coordinated this better. There were backup plans mentioned that could have done the same job. He needs to learn to delegate.

MikeL

fixed ty

C_Mantis

Thank you! I hope the sorellians still stay a major part of the story

Aaron edison

Also everyone seems to mistake the way power effects people around you... and the way different communication styles interact. "the advisors should have been honest" - well sure, yes. But they probably were being honest. Except they are a bunch of diplomats so they probably said, "has my lord considered?" When they meant, "that's a bad idea." and matt was like, "yep. Considered."

Sean Shivers

Yup, You‘d think the very first info in a document about a planned coup would be: Here‘s a situation but we have a solution lined up, read further for more info.

Leander

It's less about spine and more about proven cause and effect. All the spine in the world won't stop a bomb from going off in your face. All previous Ascenders have been volatile as hell, it's why everyone let's them get away with everything. It's been said a couple of times now that Liz and Matt are unique in their level headedness.

Kenneth

Sometimes just ripping the band-aid is better. But yeah, he fucked up

Derze

I wonder if the emperor et al ever considered not automatically giving rulership over hundreds of worlds to people who are only qualified to be bad soldiers notorious for not taking orders. I see absolutely no reason that Matt especially would need or want to rule anything more than his guild. It’s not getting him ready for anything he doesn’t want to be a king, and most ascenders clearly don’t advance in the political structure either. Stop giving them responsibility they aren’t suited for and don’t actually want.

Benjamin Warlick

Putting an administrator in charge and not a noble with real authority was a major lapse. It needed someone to make the big decisions and it seems like it was missing.

MikeL

"I am not a tyrant" does so much work for manny

Sean Shivers

And this is reason 101 why no sane BBEG actually wants to take over the planet. Way too much work.

Kenneth

I agree with a few of the other comments, Matt and Liz made their own mistakes, but as the advisors themselves states, it was only allowed to be a problem due to their fear of saying "boss, maybe your idea could use some polishing" if anything it sounds like they needed staff without an apparently pathological fear of ascenders. Edit: maybe if we're lucky we'll get a quick conversation with Manny or Luna or Liz's parents about how yes, they messed up, but so did their staff. I mean they have LITERALLY tried to tell people to not be afraid to tell them truth, and in this very chapter, they were told being TOO personable was part of the trouble, and their staff still rolled over just cause they were in the same room?

john smith

Seems very strange that Matt got a report about the action of this Fabian guy but not about what the unveiling team planned to do about it. Looks like he got no meaningful communication from the unveiling team.

Tirinir

I am mostly worried about them not having gotten people expressly for having a spine.

Adurna

Yeah Matt acting as if in combat rather than getting a report about a long-term plot was pretty amusing. Something about having a hammer and what things look like.

Adurna

So basically, they did not get themselves honest advisors and did not secure feedback through spies or similar. Makes sense for Matt but not as easily for Liz (though eccentric parents and moving to the path explains well enough) to make that mistake. I can see how Manny would want them to get this experience.

Adurna

Fault goes multiple ways. Yeah matt and liz messed up and need to grow. But if the people working under them are to afraid to bring things up or tell their bosses these things, that is on them. If they are to afraid to work for ascendeds they need to be replaced. No proper communication up or down. Half of what palom said, should of been told to matt and liz long before this. Before they left for the sects actually, so they all could have been on board and working together. This mess is a failure at every level. Again matt and liz are definitely at fault and glad they admitted to that, but the leadership below them need to grow a spine and talk to their bosses or atleast their aids.

Bob Bryan

It’s nice to see that they’re not infallible. And Matt’s always had a bit of a hot head. This was fantastic! Thanks for the Chapter!

Cam

Having said his peace Should be piece

IWannaBeATiger

Liz and Matt may be ascenders but they definitely aren’t rulers in anything but name. Luna should come and remind them of that. Maybe have a report card on their decisions and attitudes. Matt and Liz hate failing. Maybe then they might actually take some time to learn how to be nobles. Being a Duke and Duchess seems to be something they think of as a chore. Also thanks for the chapter.

Pararably

You know, I’m glad that backfired the way it did. Good chapter

Thomas Brusilovsky

Thanks for the chapter! 😊

Asattor

Thanks for the chapter

Kasamuri


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