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Aaron Hughes
Aaron Hughes

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[Announcement] We're fighting the takedown

That's a bit of a loaded title and the situation is still unfolding so let me break it down for you all. When we were hit with the DMCA for the 40k collection we were granted a copy of the takedown request. It was pretty clear it was NOT from Games Workshop and was instead from some unknown and unrelated individual.

There were a few red flags including: coming from a gmail account that mimicked their official email signature, multiple spelling errors, grammar errors, mentioning me by name and not the company, incomplete information, incorrect information, and read like the ramblings of a warp-tainted cultist.

With that deduction I made the decision to send a counter notice. I haven't heard back from Patreon on the matter yet but will let you know how it settles out. This counter will put the ball back in the court of the person that filed it. The theory is that since it's not a genuine takedown request it will end there since they don't have the standing to sue on GW's behalf.

Right now I think it could go 2 ways: Patreon accepts the counter-notice, or Patreon does not accept the counter-notice (in time).

Patreon accepts the counter notice: things will continue as they normally would. November files will be archived for annual members at the end of the month, 40k files will be included in the MMF archives, and the older files will remain on the annual archive. I'll likely take down the in-progress projects so we can actually finish them properly though.

Patreon does NOT accept the counter-notice: I'm not sure why this would happen but in case it does, or in case we don't hear back from Patreon by 5PM EST today, we would continue as we have planned. 40k files will be scrubbed from the Google Drive and MMF archive and other points as mentioned in the previous post.

Sorry for the whiplash everyone, it's certainly been a tumultuous few days, but I want to keep you all in the loop as things are happening. In the meantime, we're working furiously to get all annual memberships added in time!

- Aaron

Comments

I apologize if this answer was already posted somewhere. Do we have a resolution yet? Seems like they should have gotten back to you by now.

Marc F

Andy, would you be able to send me some of the files as well? <3

Michael LaBelle

Any chance this will be resolved and we get more 40K models and the OGs back?

Kevin Cummins

Thank you. I was super excited when I saw the grey knight file

Dbillz

Yes they're mostly usable

Aaron Hughes

I have a question. Regarding the files that were marked in progress, such as the Grey Knight helm, are they usable files? Can I slap all the Grey Knight parts in my slicer and go to town? Thanks.

Dbillz

I have them but without GA blessing, i unfortunately will not distribute

Marc Ten

A lot of requests for sharing files. Does this come with Galactic Armory's blessings?

Nick Smith

Good luck

Nick Smith

Oh I need them as well ;-;

Andy Lowrey

I’d also like the primaris and chaplain helmets, If ya’ll don’t mind?

William Page

Servitor conversion?

Flak

Does anyone have the Primaris armor set.? That is the one thing I missed when it was up.

Sean Davis

I have downloaded everything the last 2 days. Thank you :D

Andy Romey

Thanks brother, is there anything you need?

The Bull

Sent via tranfernow. On its way. You can delete you email now here mate <3

Andy Romey

Thank you so much!!

The Bull

can do. Whats the best way to share?

Andy Romey

Best of luck and fight with the Emperor’s blessing brothers!!

William Page

Did anyone on here get the black legion helmet and if so would you be willing to share the file?? DM me

The Bull

Hey friend. Please please please let us know if there's an update and the 40k stuff will return. *filled with anxiety and pain and anger* I do hope the new year will be kind to you all!!!

Andy Lowrey

I’m willing to bet it was someone who was pissed on DEC 1st that the files switched to the annual tier

Paul Florez

If that's the case, that's pretty pathetic. I never thought I had a shot at winning, but I like WH40K, and figured worst case scenario I would end up with a cool bucket I was proud of and liked. I got a whopping 10 votes, but never thought "Man, that's not fair. Let me screw things up for the whole community."

Waya Chetan

I hope this gets resolved. These kind of things really sucks! So, we just had the 40K contest then they get this. I can bet a lot of money that it was one of the loser that really thought they should have won. I mean there were a of excellent buckets that were submitted.

Joseph Dawson

One of the main reasons I joined, and I figured we had around 48 hours to archive them. Why did you remove them so quickly?

imaginecraft3d

that would be the worst idea

Bullet Farmer

That makes sense. Appreciate yall!

Matthew S Robinson

It is *within* 48 hours that we had to comply

Aaron Hughes

I didn't realize it had already been 48 hours. Hope this gets settled

Matthew S Robinson

It's probably the person who got last place in the helmet contest lollllll

Matt Washington

Nahhh only skimmed it but I'm drinking so I just threw that in there for attempted support 😂🤣😂

Scott Royle

Is it possible that you could talk to 40K and just get permission for what you're doing

Mark Mulligan

Good to know, can always proceed through obscurity, I'm assuming patreon doesn't have access to your google drive, so how do they know what is or isn't on it

Well Armed Ogre

For the emperor 🛡⚔️ also thanks for the update 😁👍

Dylan H

lol did you read the post?

Dave Castle

Well depends on how loose his butt is I guess pmsl

Craig Tough

Fight the good fight brother!

Cody Lawton

Do it! Games workshop can't keep getting away with bullying people, one other creator fought them over his chainswords and he won, can't remember his name or how he won, apologies, but it's possible!

Scott Royle

Let's gooooo!!

Squab

Sending the Emperors Strength Brother Aaron!

ThePadfoot101

Former GW store staff here, can confirm the above as the email domain you'd be getting something like that from

Autarkis

My wife’s colleague used to work in IP at GW (black library related) and she said unless things have changed they would always C&D you directly first

Steve Wright

Can't you just move everything for 40k to discord instead?

Marc F

In the event of a worst case scenario, do we have a listing of all the 40K files? So that we know what all is being taken down or so that we can archive them ourselves.

Chester Pineda

I can think of worse fates...........

Rob Clarke

why not drop the war hammer stuff and start doing WorHomer stuff .... 41k with alol yellow guy on the inside imbossed

Logan O'Rourke

Hate when this happens and you’re so late in trying to download the files just in case that the server won’t let you download any of the 40k stuff as there’s been too many downloads. So fingers crossed who ever posted the take down notice wakes up in the warp and meets an extremely horny daemon of slaanesh 😂😂

Craig Tough

THE EMPEROR PROVIDES!!

Ike Jones

bro trust me unfortunatly there're tuns of people like that

eren bisio

Joined at the Specialist Tier today cause I got FAITH !!

Big Dummy

Imagine being that unhappy you take the time to write an entire email and pretend to be a company just to fuck with a group of people you’re just mad it’s doing so well.. Talk about a new low

CK_32

Fake DMCA requests... That's... Different. The world has truly jumped the shark

Sean Branney

Hopefully this will at least slightly restore my faith in GW. Wishing for the best!

Jason Boggess

I've found these takedowns a bit odd especially when nerdforge did a sponsored video for spacemarine 2 using yosh's 3d files.

Dave Martin

I'm glad to hear it was a fake, the more I thought of it the more I thought this had to be BS, I still got my email when I contacts GW over a similar situation, where they explicitly stated they didn't care about cosplay being made and or sold, since they have no stake in that, just wanted me to steer clear of 40k minis.

Taylored Printers

That's a good news. All my support to you in this difficult time

Jérémie Léault

Best of luck, lets hope everything goes well. I’ve really loved your warhammer files so far

Aron Breki

They were not taken down for Warhammer stuff . And it was their Etsy account .

Joshua de La Torre

The emperor protects, that‘s good news! However this ends, thank you guys a ton for your work

Macaroth

Love this idea

Joshua de La Torre

I'm almost gonna be upset if the files stay. I'm hurting for space here. But seriously, at least there's some good news.

Colossus2024

Most likely here and there

Aaron Hughes

Oh yeah that's a cool idea

Aaron Hughes

Should post the Gmail account. Fire mission is a go!

Aaron Myers

Keep fighting FOR THE EMPEROR!! I am glad you looked deeper into this as from what you described definitely sounds like either a troll or someone jealous of all the great work GA does for 40k and Star Wars! (I'm still gonna make a Marine-Clone/Stormtrooper mash-up after my Clone-Spartan!)

Robert Noon

Clearly thr work of the Gene-Stealer cultists trying to subvert the will of the Imperium. Gettem 💪

Ben Hancock

If you don't hear back from patreon in time but find out it's not a valid takedown after, will you continue to make more 40k pieces? Crossing my fingers, toes and eyes that this works out!!

Sea_Of_Grey(IG)

This is the way.

Joseph Muir

Ahhh yes, the infamous internet trolls with fake take downs… if only it was an isolated incident. Hopefully all goes well!

Jerrica CW

Just a suggestion, not matter how things turn out but could you still offer customisation packs for the helmets already released? Most of the helmets shared the same dome and back piece, so they could be taken from the files already downloaded. Obviously, there would be no direct mention of specific 40k terms, but could be something like 'wolf helm customisation', 'secret angels customisation' and so on. This would stop any future DMCA's.

Rob Clarke

I thought it was a bit odd they'd go after you guys but GW gonna GW so it didn't raise any actual suspicion from me 🤔

Brennon Anderson

Fight! Fight for Camelot, Fight! Never surrender Never surrender

John Dickson

WAGHHHH !!!!

Johnathan Gillespie

No worries, thanks for the insight!

Aaron Hughes

Sorry guys looks like the emails chain i had with GW has been cleared from my email memory, I could only find the auto customer service ticket related to missing parts on a FW warhound titan. So I can only confirm that the email would have been an @gwlpc.com address and not Gmail. And the language in the email would have been professional, as grammar or spelling errors in legal documentation invalidate the validity of the document

Johnathan Gillespie

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's why ACTUAL GW hasn't come down yet. We have NO plans for minis

Aaron Hughes

FOR THE EMPEROR!!!

Steve Dixon

You probably wouldn't be but I think an average person would be amazed at how many phishing emails we get pretending to be Meta or Patreon with fake takedown requests.

Aaron Hughes

Hoping for the best for you guys, also please please please do not start making miniatures of 40k universe otherwise the real over lord will come after you this time.

Tam Pras

As a cybersecurity guy you did the right move. Asking for actual email and reading through detecting all the inconsistencies was excellent work. Good for you

Mark Morgan

Everyone, don your GA battle helmets and join the fight!

Rob Davis

You know Yosh Studios got hit with the same takedown notice about a month before your helmet challenge and his happened a few days into his helmet challenge. What doesnt make sense is that our War Hammer shop here in Cork Ireland proudly and happily displays peoples builds. Asked the manager if we could display ours or would the comoamy come after us and he said no because the cosplay community is their number 1 customer and unless someone is selling figures they dont care. They even sell the big cans of paint, you need that for a tiny figure, so this definately wouldnt be them.

Irish Justin

WAGHHHHH

Aaron Hughes

For the emperor

David Johnston

Lol that sucks, some people are so evil for some reason

Goofygoober

People causing trouble just to cause trouble....

PSIREX

I've seen a few real DMCA and C&D emails sent to others. If it looks iffy it probably is. And it'll come from a GW PLC email not a Gmail account.

Daniel Smith

The same thing happened to Yosh Studios a few months ago only it was on Etsy. I’m curious if the same group was behind that, seems pretty coincidental 🤷🏻‍♀️ You guys are amazing at what you do and of course that will sometimes bring jealousy, I hope everything goes well and in your favor!

Amy Yarnell

Get em! Im pretty sure this now sounds like another creator whose page sucks. I have a suspicion but need to do further digging.

Irish Justin

Lfg!

Celenia

You hear dat you lot?! Sounds like Aarons' gearin up for ah foight! Tha boyz is wit ya! ERE WE GO ERE WE GO ERE WE GO!

Ian Earle

My working theory is it's a guy I wouldn't make a helmet for. They seemed a little unhinged and I had to block them.

Aaron Hughes

Hoping the best for you guys.

Patrick

I've had dealing with GW legal team in the pass related to 3d printing, and they would be contacting you directly by email and letter. And it would be via a corporate email, it was years and years ago but I will try and find the email so you can see an example of how they communicate.

Johnathan Gillespie

Give them what for bois, doing the emperors work

Trent Gorman

We are with you ❤️

Arnaud

Let's keep the positive and.that you guys can win this 💪🏼

MagnuzX

If Patreon doesn't accept, SUE PATREON to explain WHY! This is your livelihood and that of those you employ. Sue to FORCE Patreon to have this game player to come forward. Then when they do, if they are indeed someone NOT representing GW, TAKE THEM TO THE CLEANERS for all the havoc they caused! No nice guy stuff, this was attempt to lop a limb from GA!

Amy W

Good luck

Berry

Sounds like a salty person don't like competition

Gooner4life7

Ya know, I know there were people that havnt liked your growth and success. I had that thought yesterday about competition trying to throw a wrench in the gears.

Nic

Wonder if it's a competitor

Waya Chetan

Good luck

Steven White

I'll be honest when I first heard about the situation, I thought it kind of odd because it doesn't make any sense for games workshop to go after cosplay parts. It's not minis plus the thing they really hit you on for copyright is the shoulder pads, not the helmets

Gruntkilla

💪

Mindmeld Mods

Fight fight fight

Mikesabeast

Hope it all goes well

David Wagner

Wow. Crazy times

Dave Castle

Thats crazy! Hope you guys are all okay and this gets straightened out asap

Cameron Rastatter

Best of luck man

Jay


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