[Announcement] We're fighting the takedown
Added 2024-12-31 13:52:44 +0000 UTCThat's a bit of a loaded title and the situation is still unfolding so let me break it down for you all. When we were hit with the DMCA for the 40k collection we were granted a copy of the takedown request. It was pretty clear it was NOT from Games Workshop and was instead from some unknown and unrelated individual.
There were a few red flags including: coming from a gmail account that mimicked their official email signature, multiple spelling errors, grammar errors, mentioning me by name and not the company, incomplete information, incorrect information, and read like the ramblings of a warp-tainted cultist.
With that deduction I made the decision to send a counter notice. I haven't heard back from Patreon on the matter yet but will let you know how it settles out. This counter will put the ball back in the court of the person that filed it. The theory is that since it's not a genuine takedown request it will end there since they don't have the standing to sue on GW's behalf.
Right now I think it could go 2 ways: Patreon accepts the counter-notice, or Patreon does not accept the counter-notice (in time).
Patreon accepts the counter notice: things will continue as they normally would. November files will be archived for annual members at the end of the month, 40k files will be included in the MMF archives, and the older files will remain on the annual archive. I'll likely take down the in-progress projects so we can actually finish them properly though.
Patreon does NOT accept the counter-notice: I'm not sure why this would happen but in case it does, or in case we don't hear back from Patreon by 5PM EST today, we would continue as we have planned. 40k files will be scrubbed from the Google Drive and MMF archive and other points as mentioned in the previous post.
Sorry for the whiplash everyone, it's certainly been a tumultuous few days, but I want to keep you all in the loop as things are happening. In the meantime, we're working furiously to get all annual memberships added in time!
- Aaron
Comments
I apologize if this answer was already posted somewhere. Do we have a resolution yet? Seems like they should have gotten back to you by now.
Marc F
2025-01-19 02:36:36 +0000 UTCAndy, would you be able to send me some of the files as well? <3
Michael LaBelle
2025-01-02 16:47:30 +0000 UTCAny chance this will be resolved and we get more 40K models and the OGs back?
Kevin Cummins
2025-01-02 15:17:27 +0000 UTCThank you. I was super excited when I saw the grey knight file
Dbillz
2025-01-02 14:09:32 +0000 UTCYes they're mostly usable
Aaron Hughes
2025-01-02 13:53:40 +0000 UTCI have a question. Regarding the files that were marked in progress, such as the Grey Knight helm, are they usable files? Can I slap all the Grey Knight parts in my slicer and go to town? Thanks.
Dbillz
2025-01-02 13:39:14 +0000 UTCI have them but without GA blessing, i unfortunately will not distribute
Marc Ten
2025-01-02 05:38:22 +0000 UTCA lot of requests for sharing files. Does this come with Galactic Armory's blessings?
Nick Smith
2025-01-01 22:32:21 +0000 UTCGood luck
Nick Smith
2025-01-01 22:29:30 +0000 UTCOh I need them as well ;-;
Andy Lowrey
2025-01-01 21:22:06 +0000 UTCI’d also like the primaris and chaplain helmets, If ya’ll don’t mind?
William Page
2025-01-01 20:57:41 +0000 UTCServitor conversion?
Flak
2025-01-01 20:20:59 +0000 UTCDoes anyone have the Primaris armor set.? That is the one thing I missed when it was up.
Sean Davis
2025-01-01 20:10:10 +0000 UTCI have downloaded everything the last 2 days. Thank you :D
Andy Romey
2025-01-01 17:41:26 +0000 UTCThanks brother, is there anything you need?
The Bull
2025-01-01 17:27:33 +0000 UTCSent via tranfernow. On its way. You can delete you email now here mate <3
Andy Romey
2025-01-01 17:24:51 +0000 UTCThank you so much!!
The Bull
2025-01-01 17:19:51 +0000 UTCcan do. Whats the best way to share?
Andy Romey
2025-01-01 16:55:14 +0000 UTCBest of luck and fight with the Emperor’s blessing brothers!!
William Page
2025-01-01 16:45:58 +0000 UTCDid anyone on here get the black legion helmet and if so would you be willing to share the file?? DM me
The Bull
2025-01-01 16:28:12 +0000 UTCHey friend. Please please please let us know if there's an update and the 40k stuff will return. *filled with anxiety and pain and anger* I do hope the new year will be kind to you all!!!
Andy Lowrey
2025-01-01 13:05:01 +0000 UTCI’m willing to bet it was someone who was pissed on DEC 1st that the files switched to the annual tier
Paul Florez
2025-01-01 04:57:43 +0000 UTCIf that's the case, that's pretty pathetic. I never thought I had a shot at winning, but I like WH40K, and figured worst case scenario I would end up with a cool bucket I was proud of and liked. I got a whopping 10 votes, but never thought "Man, that's not fair. Let me screw things up for the whole community."
Waya Chetan
2025-01-01 04:06:20 +0000 UTCI hope this gets resolved. These kind of things really sucks! So, we just had the 40K contest then they get this. I can bet a lot of money that it was one of the loser that really thought they should have won. I mean there were a of excellent buckets that were submitted.
Joseph Dawson
2025-01-01 03:39:32 +0000 UTCOne of the main reasons I joined, and I figured we had around 48 hours to archive them. Why did you remove them so quickly?
imaginecraft3d
2025-01-01 02:32:06 +0000 UTCthat would be the worst idea
Bullet Farmer
2024-12-31 23:53:27 +0000 UTCThat makes sense. Appreciate yall!
Matthew S Robinson
2024-12-31 22:54:50 +0000 UTCIt is *within* 48 hours that we had to comply
Aaron Hughes
2024-12-31 22:43:05 +0000 UTCI didn't realize it had already been 48 hours. Hope this gets settled
Matthew S Robinson
2024-12-31 22:39:29 +0000 UTCIt's probably the person who got last place in the helmet contest lollllll
Matt Washington
2024-12-31 22:23:44 +0000 UTCNahhh only skimmed it but I'm drinking so I just threw that in there for attempted support 😂🤣😂
Scott Royle
2024-12-31 22:10:07 +0000 UTCIs it possible that you could talk to 40K and just get permission for what you're doing
Mark Mulligan
2024-12-31 21:11:38 +0000 UTCGood to know, can always proceed through obscurity, I'm assuming patreon doesn't have access to your google drive, so how do they know what is or isn't on it
Well Armed Ogre
2024-12-31 20:01:47 +0000 UTCFor the emperor 🛡⚔️ also thanks for the update 😁👍
Dylan H
2024-12-31 19:57:57 +0000 UTClol did you read the post?
Dave Castle
2024-12-31 19:40:39 +0000 UTCWell depends on how loose his butt is I guess pmsl
Craig Tough
2024-12-31 19:16:40 +0000 UTCFight the good fight brother!
Cody Lawton
2024-12-31 19:05:12 +0000 UTCDo it! Games workshop can't keep getting away with bullying people, one other creator fought them over his chainswords and he won, can't remember his name or how he won, apologies, but it's possible!
Scott Royle
2024-12-31 18:54:41 +0000 UTCLet's gooooo!!
Squab
2024-12-31 18:16:56 +0000 UTCSending the Emperors Strength Brother Aaron!
ThePadfoot101
2024-12-31 17:43:38 +0000 UTCFormer GW store staff here, can confirm the above as the email domain you'd be getting something like that from
Autarkis
2024-12-31 17:38:40 +0000 UTCMy wife’s colleague used to work in IP at GW (black library related) and she said unless things have changed they would always C&D you directly first
Steve Wright
2024-12-31 17:25:39 +0000 UTCCan't you just move everything for 40k to discord instead?
Marc F
2024-12-31 16:56:25 +0000 UTCIn the event of a worst case scenario, do we have a listing of all the 40K files? So that we know what all is being taken down or so that we can archive them ourselves.
Chester Pineda
2024-12-31 16:55:52 +0000 UTCI can think of worse fates...........
Rob Clarke
2024-12-31 16:47:02 +0000 UTCwhy not drop the war hammer stuff and start doing WorHomer stuff .... 41k with alol yellow guy on the inside imbossed
Logan O'Rourke
2024-12-31 16:33:34 +0000 UTCHate when this happens and you’re so late in trying to download the files just in case that the server won’t let you download any of the 40k stuff as there’s been too many downloads. So fingers crossed who ever posted the take down notice wakes up in the warp and meets an extremely horny daemon of slaanesh 😂😂
Craig Tough
2024-12-31 16:14:52 +0000 UTCTHE EMPEROR PROVIDES!!
Ike Jones
2024-12-31 16:07:58 +0000 UTCbro trust me unfortunatly there're tuns of people like that
eren bisio
2024-12-31 16:03:40 +0000 UTCJoined at the Specialist Tier today cause I got FAITH !!
Big Dummy
2024-12-31 15:57:14 +0000 UTCImagine being that unhappy you take the time to write an entire email and pretend to be a company just to fuck with a group of people you’re just mad it’s doing so well.. Talk about a new low
CK_32
2024-12-31 15:32:43 +0000 UTCFake DMCA requests... That's... Different. The world has truly jumped the shark
Sean Branney
2024-12-31 15:29:35 +0000 UTCHopefully this will at least slightly restore my faith in GW. Wishing for the best!
Jason Boggess
2024-12-31 15:22:33 +0000 UTCI've found these takedowns a bit odd especially when nerdforge did a sponsored video for spacemarine 2 using yosh's 3d files.
Dave Martin
2024-12-31 15:08:25 +0000 UTCI'm glad to hear it was a fake, the more I thought of it the more I thought this had to be BS, I still got my email when I contacts GW over a similar situation, where they explicitly stated they didn't care about cosplay being made and or sold, since they have no stake in that, just wanted me to steer clear of 40k minis.
Taylored Printers
2024-12-31 15:02:27 +0000 UTCThat's a good news. All my support to you in this difficult time
Jérémie Léault
2024-12-31 14:59:16 +0000 UTCBest of luck, lets hope everything goes well. I’ve really loved your warhammer files so far
Aron Breki
2024-12-31 14:59:06 +0000 UTCThey were not taken down for Warhammer stuff . And it was their Etsy account .
Joshua de La Torre
2024-12-31 14:57:20 +0000 UTCThe emperor protects, that‘s good news! However this ends, thank you guys a ton for your work
Macaroth
2024-12-31 14:56:54 +0000 UTCLove this idea
Joshua de La Torre
2024-12-31 14:56:10 +0000 UTCI'm almost gonna be upset if the files stay. I'm hurting for space here. But seriously, at least there's some good news.
Colossus2024
2024-12-31 14:55:33 +0000 UTCMost likely here and there
Aaron Hughes
2024-12-31 14:53:50 +0000 UTCOh yeah that's a cool idea
Aaron Hughes
2024-12-31 14:53:36 +0000 UTCShould post the Gmail account. Fire mission is a go!
Aaron Myers
2024-12-31 14:49:33 +0000 UTCKeep fighting FOR THE EMPEROR!! I am glad you looked deeper into this as from what you described definitely sounds like either a troll or someone jealous of all the great work GA does for 40k and Star Wars! (I'm still gonna make a Marine-Clone/Stormtrooper mash-up after my Clone-Spartan!)
Robert Noon
2024-12-31 14:47:06 +0000 UTCClearly thr work of the Gene-Stealer cultists trying to subvert the will of the Imperium. Gettem 💪
Ben Hancock
2024-12-31 14:36:38 +0000 UTCIf you don't hear back from patreon in time but find out it's not a valid takedown after, will you continue to make more 40k pieces? Crossing my fingers, toes and eyes that this works out!!
Sea_Of_Grey(IG)
2024-12-31 14:33:55 +0000 UTCThis is the way.
Joseph Muir
2024-12-31 14:32:28 +0000 UTCAhhh yes, the infamous internet trolls with fake take downs… if only it was an isolated incident. Hopefully all goes well!
Jerrica CW
2024-12-31 14:32:09 +0000 UTCJust a suggestion, not matter how things turn out but could you still offer customisation packs for the helmets already released? Most of the helmets shared the same dome and back piece, so they could be taken from the files already downloaded. Obviously, there would be no direct mention of specific 40k terms, but could be something like 'wolf helm customisation', 'secret angels customisation' and so on. This would stop any future DMCA's.
Rob Clarke
2024-12-31 14:31:32 +0000 UTCI thought it was a bit odd they'd go after you guys but GW gonna GW so it didn't raise any actual suspicion from me 🤔
Brennon Anderson
2024-12-31 14:28:47 +0000 UTCFight! Fight for Camelot, Fight! Never surrender Never surrender
John Dickson
2024-12-31 14:27:17 +0000 UTCWAGHHHH !!!!
Johnathan Gillespie
2024-12-31 14:21:12 +0000 UTCNo worries, thanks for the insight!
Aaron Hughes
2024-12-31 14:20:32 +0000 UTCSorry guys looks like the emails chain i had with GW has been cleared from my email memory, I could only find the auto customer service ticket related to missing parts on a FW warhound titan. So I can only confirm that the email would have been an @gwlpc.com address and not Gmail. And the language in the email would have been professional, as grammar or spelling errors in legal documentation invalidate the validity of the document
Johnathan Gillespie
2024-12-31 14:19:03 +0000 UTCYeah I'm pretty sure that's why ACTUAL GW hasn't come down yet. We have NO plans for minis
Aaron Hughes
2024-12-31 14:18:59 +0000 UTCFOR THE EMPEROR!!!
Steve Dixon
2024-12-31 14:18:36 +0000 UTCYou probably wouldn't be but I think an average person would be amazed at how many phishing emails we get pretending to be Meta or Patreon with fake takedown requests.
Aaron Hughes
2024-12-31 14:18:11 +0000 UTCHoping for the best for you guys, also please please please do not start making miniatures of 40k universe otherwise the real over lord will come after you this time.
Tam Pras
2024-12-31 14:16:33 +0000 UTCAs a cybersecurity guy you did the right move. Asking for actual email and reading through detecting all the inconsistencies was excellent work. Good for you
Mark Morgan
2024-12-31 14:15:32 +0000 UTCEveryone, don your GA battle helmets and join the fight!
Rob Davis
2024-12-31 14:13:49 +0000 UTCYou know Yosh Studios got hit with the same takedown notice about a month before your helmet challenge and his happened a few days into his helmet challenge. What doesnt make sense is that our War Hammer shop here in Cork Ireland proudly and happily displays peoples builds. Asked the manager if we could display ours or would the comoamy come after us and he said no because the cosplay community is their number 1 customer and unless someone is selling figures they dont care. They even sell the big cans of paint, you need that for a tiny figure, so this definately wouldnt be them.
Irish Justin
2024-12-31 14:13:28 +0000 UTCWAGHHHHH
Aaron Hughes
2024-12-31 14:13:15 +0000 UTCFor the emperor
David Johnston
2024-12-31 14:13:07 +0000 UTCLol that sucks, some people are so evil for some reason
Goofygoober
2024-12-31 14:12:45 +0000 UTCPeople causing trouble just to cause trouble....
PSIREX
2024-12-31 14:11:37 +0000 UTCI've seen a few real DMCA and C&D emails sent to others. If it looks iffy it probably is. And it'll come from a GW PLC email not a Gmail account.
Daniel Smith
2024-12-31 14:11:11 +0000 UTCThe same thing happened to Yosh Studios a few months ago only it was on Etsy. I’m curious if the same group was behind that, seems pretty coincidental 🤷🏻♀️ You guys are amazing at what you do and of course that will sometimes bring jealousy, I hope everything goes well and in your favor!
Amy Yarnell
2024-12-31 14:10:18 +0000 UTCGet em! Im pretty sure this now sounds like another creator whose page sucks. I have a suspicion but need to do further digging.
Irish Justin
2024-12-31 14:09:33 +0000 UTCLfg!
Celenia
2024-12-31 14:08:38 +0000 UTCYou hear dat you lot?! Sounds like Aarons' gearin up for ah foight! Tha boyz is wit ya! ERE WE GO ERE WE GO ERE WE GO!
Ian Earle
2024-12-31 14:07:26 +0000 UTCMy working theory is it's a guy I wouldn't make a helmet for. They seemed a little unhinged and I had to block them.
Aaron Hughes
2024-12-31 14:07:22 +0000 UTCHoping the best for you guys.
Patrick
2024-12-31 14:04:53 +0000 UTCI've had dealing with GW legal team in the pass related to 3d printing, and they would be contacting you directly by email and letter. And it would be via a corporate email, it was years and years ago but I will try and find the email so you can see an example of how they communicate.
Johnathan Gillespie
2024-12-31 14:04:47 +0000 UTCGive them what for bois, doing the emperors work
Trent Gorman
2024-12-31 14:04:20 +0000 UTCWe are with you ❤️
Arnaud
2024-12-31 14:03:42 +0000 UTCLet's keep the positive and.that you guys can win this 💪🏼
MagnuzX
2024-12-31 14:03:29 +0000 UTCIf Patreon doesn't accept, SUE PATREON to explain WHY! This is your livelihood and that of those you employ. Sue to FORCE Patreon to have this game player to come forward. Then when they do, if they are indeed someone NOT representing GW, TAKE THEM TO THE CLEANERS for all the havoc they caused! No nice guy stuff, this was attempt to lop a limb from GA!
Amy W
2024-12-31 14:02:50 +0000 UTCGood luck
Berry
2024-12-31 14:02:19 +0000 UTCSounds like a salty person don't like competition
Gooner4life7
2024-12-31 13:58:16 +0000 UTCYa know, I know there were people that havnt liked your growth and success. I had that thought yesterday about competition trying to throw a wrench in the gears.
Nic
2024-12-31 13:57:53 +0000 UTCWonder if it's a competitor
Waya Chetan
2024-12-31 13:57:53 +0000 UTCGood luck
Steven White
2024-12-31 13:57:31 +0000 UTCI'll be honest when I first heard about the situation, I thought it kind of odd because it doesn't make any sense for games workshop to go after cosplay parts. It's not minis plus the thing they really hit you on for copyright is the shoulder pads, not the helmets
Gruntkilla
2024-12-31 13:57:22 +0000 UTC💪
Mindmeld Mods
2024-12-31 13:57:21 +0000 UTCFight fight fight
Mikesabeast
2024-12-31 13:57:13 +0000 UTCHope it all goes well
David Wagner
2024-12-31 13:56:31 +0000 UTCWow. Crazy times
Dave Castle
2024-12-31 13:56:20 +0000 UTCThats crazy! Hope you guys are all okay and this gets straightened out asap
Cameron Rastatter
2024-12-31 13:55:35 +0000 UTCBest of luck man
Jay
2024-12-31 13:55:26 +0000 UTC