/385/ Global-Elite Vibe-Shift? ft. Amber A'Lee Frost
Added 2024-01-23 07:02:01 +0000 UTCOn the World Economic Forum.
We continue our talk on the US left and Amber fills us in on DSA's collapse and the resignation of its head.
We then move onto Davos and indications that the WEF is moving away from DEI, ESG, and other left-liberal concerns. Javier Milei gave a speech saying the West was in danger, that socialism was coming in the back door. What was that all about?
If there's less wokeness this year, does that mean there's a change in ideas, a changing of the guard, or are business leaders adapting to an impending Trump presidency?
We finish by doing a brief preview of the US election and Trump's potential return.
Comments
Re (2), isn't that just the org having its own internal spectrum of political opinion, or internal Overton Window, separate from that of American electoral politics broadly?
Eli S
2024-01-31 21:44:11 +0000 UTCBungacast really wouldn't be a true left wing political podcast without someone from the audience making the claim that someone's voice is being underrepresented.
Tim Jansen
2024-01-27 19:53:22 +0000 UTCIt always amazes me how the show uses the word "Global" to talk about 20% of the world's population. You know, Asia is not just a place where white people go on vacation. I don't recall a recent episode where you had someone who actually understands Asia on the show. The reading club on the Adam Smith in Beijing was kind of a step in that direction. But man, really "industrious revolution"? I dropped it. Dude is clearly just confirming his bias that Japanese people are hard working, lol. Like, asians were into the hustle culture? Take a cold shower, wake up at 5 and eat two raw eggs if you want to become a giga chad. I think you should get someone critic of the east, from the east or someone who has a stake here, to make some kind of commentary. It's lacking.
Ricardo de Cillo
2024-01-27 12:00:49 +0000 UTCReally interesting episode, I had two thoughts and things that I'd like to see teased out: 1. I dont agree with Amber's pessimism on the trickle up approach to electoral politics. What she's describing is machine building and network building and it's fairly standard practice for the two parties to groom and guide their local/state level politicians to aim for higher office over the course of time. It entails lots of failing and disappointment, but that's what happens when you're up against two parties that consistently hold 95+% of the vote between them. 2. Id be curious to hear her go a little further in on palestine politics in the dsa. I think it's good to have somebody toe a relatively aggressive line in favor of palestine, its certainly lacking in American politics and their electeds typically taken stances I'd consider reasonable. But from the outside looking in it appears to me the organization is overwhelmingly anti zionist in prescription at the individual level, but the more prominent figures (particularly on social media) seem to believe the organization is filled with hyper orientalist, Islamophobic zionists, which is clearly not true (ironically it reminds me of the corbynite smear campaign premised on a fake anti semitism hysteria around corbyn). Is this hysteria developing as a tool for political disciplining and knife fighting in the DSA? Or am I reading too deeply into this?
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2024-01-23 23:23:36 +0000 UTC
