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Attack On Titan S4 Episode 15

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You forget about the tens of millions of titans in the wall. They didn't born from nothing. And we don't know that the 'Great Titan War' infighting how many years does it took and how many lives were lost:

randomon

It shouldn’t even be ironic.. It has to be unacceptable.

Noor E

Zeke hates himself and wants to spare future children living that way, Eren hates all titans and the only way to exterminate them all is by Zekes Euthenization plan. That's where they agree is that the answer to their problems is ending Eldians entirely. I dunno bout yall, but I don't feel confident in putting trust into people who make grand decisions based on hatred like that smh

Chels

You’re politely making the whole race disappear

Md Sheam Bin Sayhid

The irony of this world fr

Alyss

It's not showing me the comment but someone named Jack said, "An? There are multiple, almost the entirity of Western Africa is having their populations who refuse to convert to Islam massacred." ...lmao wat?? Like wat is he tryna prove. Genocide anywhere for any reason is wrong and immoral. That doesn't take away the severity of any one situation. This comment was js pointless.

Alyss

Genocide is immoral… mmmkay… lol

Noor E

He can’t remember but this all feels new to him!

Wes And Steph

Good deducing!

Wes And Steph

I hope y'all do multiples AOT uploads next week 🥹

Ale

With the brain washing Zeke was put under by both his grandparents and his parents I've always been of the opinion that the truth about their history is a bit of both but rewatching it with you guys I'm convinced that everything Marley says is pure propaganda without even a shred of truth. According to Marley, the Eldians spent 2,000 years slaughtering their enemies and forcing them to carry their children yet there are so few Eldians. On Paradis Island there are only 1 million Eldians. The Marley Internment Camp looks to only be around the same size as Shiganshina(Eren's hometown) which only had a population of about 10,000. The Internment camp does look more packed in with apartment buildings but it's unlikely there are over 100,000 residents. Assuming Marley has the largest Internment Zone there can only be about 2-3 million Eldians in the world. There are no total population figures given in AOT but as of 2024 there are 8 billion people, if AOT had the same then the Eldian population is only 0.037% of the population. That is just too low for Marley's claims to have any legitimacy, Even if we gave Marley an edge and said their technology looks to be about the 1920's and used that population to get a number it's still 2 billion people and the Eldians would still only be 0.15% of the population. 2,000 years of rape and slaughter and they're only 0.15% of the population at the most? Doesn't add up.

Jack

seriously. i keep thinking about it too. this world is a total irony

Aly

I might be mistaken but guys I don't think that Eren randomly chose the apartment to kill all these people in Liberio. He literally was beneath the stage where Willy was presenting so that he could eat him! I think that that the people of the apartment was just collateral damage.

Sheri

This is what I wanted to say, I'm just shit at articulating myself 😅. Thank you for saying!

Tony

Condoms and contraceptives are a choice made by the individuals, not something forced onto them by other people. Condoms and contraceptives do not permanently prevent pregnancies like forcefully changing the way people's bodies work does. Condoms and contraceptives aren't applied to every single person within a particular ethnicity.

Luffy best MC

Not really? Are you talking about some people wearing condoms, or all the eldians wearing them? If they ALL choose to in order to stop having children then yes it is kind of self genocide, but in that scenario it's their choice. What Zeke is doing is taking away their choice, making the choice for them. If we're talking some Eldians using condoms because they don't wanna have kids, that's not even close to genocide.

Tony

By your logic, using condoms and contraceptives are akin to genocide? Lol

Rex Tan

As someone already pointed out, The Eldians being unable to turn into titans would not stop people from treating them horribly, which is the whole point of the euthanization - if they're not alive they can't suffer. Folks are not just going to turn off their hatred bcuz they're told Eldians can no longer transform. In fact, I think most of the world wouldn't believe it anyway. They would probably get treated worse since they are no longer useful.

Infinite Ree

Not defending Zeke’s parents, but I do think most of the Warrior Candidates/Warriors were pushed down that path by their parents. To shorten their lives for them just like Zeke’s parents were asking for because Warriors and their family get to become Honorary Marleyans. They just had a different reason than Grisha and Dina.

bizarre☆azar

man its so weird watching aot knowing its just a show and then knowing that theres an ACTUAL REAL genocide going on in real life and watching all these mass murders..i just i feel so helpless :(

Alyss

I am curious have you guys reacted to the AOT OVA’s ? if you haven’t will you? I hope you guys do:)

ᴮᴱ maria⁷

Can we expect multiple AOT uploads next week?

Mesbah Mohamady

Kinda off topic but man, hearing Wes talk about soccer and wearing his Barcelona shirt from time to time, I sure hope you guys consider watching Ted Lasso. It's such a great show! That aside, great discussion overall! "We're playing God math like Zeke and Eren" is a very good take. It happens to almost every person I know who watched this show. Good stuff!

NJ

The issue with the "stop eldians from becoming titans" plan, is that if they could do that, that wouldn't stop the world from treating the Eldians like they do. If anything, without their ability to turn into titans, they may treat them even worse, like a certain Austrian if you catch my meaning. Zekes plan at least stops the Eldians from being treated like that anymore after the generations that are currently alive, because they won't be around to BE treated like that. It's kind genocide basically, which is still genocide no matter how you rationalize it, but I can see in this scenario why it would probz be the most merciful thing possible, outside of the FT making all Eldians die peacefully next time they fall asleep if that was possible, still genocide either way though.

Tony

Next level storytelling. Make Zeke a complete mystery for a season and a half then drop a backstory to make you truly understand him. Might not agree with him, but can damn sure see why he is the way he is.

Brooklyn

hey wes how much have you actually seen of aot??

Abhinav Mishra

I guess the founding titan could remake eldians’ bodies so that they couldn’t become titans anymore. But the founding titan itself probably can’t stop being the founding titan. And when someone else becomes the founding titan, they can change eldians’ bodies again. So yeah, preventing eldians from making kids probably the most reliable solution. And if Marley starts using eldians in ghettos as a titans and massacring them, the founding titan always can threat using millions of titans in paradise walls to destroy Marley. And controlling who inherits the founding titan in the span of 70 years is a lot easier than controlling it for the eternity.

Ruslan


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