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Vinland Saga Episode 18

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One of the top 3 reactions to this episode I've seen. Amazing stuff guys, thank you for watching this series!

Araragi Senpai

Canute is known as “the Great” in history, so he for sure lived up to his name. Cheers!

Wonka

I can not wait for season 2 🗣‼️

Yellow_Flash

Oooo that’s a great take!

Wes And Steph

Great insights!!! Thank you for sharing!!

Wes And Steph

Awww thanks!!☺️

Wes And Steph

It was supposed to be this past week but we got sick with Covid… again. So hopefully this week we’ll get it in!!! Can’t wait!!!!

Wes And Steph

Thank you so much ❤️❤️ this means so much to us!! We are non denominational and believe in a resurrection at Christ’s return of everyone who has God’s Holy Spirit. So everyone who has passed is “sleeping” until his return.

Wes And Steph

hunter x hunter came second in the poll, and Wes & Step said it would be posted after AOT ovas are done.

Calt Being

Man, I just want to say that I absolutely love your reactions! I watched your AOT reactions and loved it! I watch your sidemen reactions and love them more than anyones! And watching your VS reactions is just... I'm sorry, English is not my first language so I can't describe the feeling. Honestly, you are almost the only reaction channel that I watch. I grow up and dropped almost every reaction channel but not yours. I wanted to write a lot more longer comment but just going to say that I love your reactions an hope you continue reacting :) P.S. Sorry if this rude, what kind of Christians are you? In my country almost everyone Orthodox so I wanted to know, because I think you said you don't believe in hell or heaven. So I wanted to learn more about your way I guess :)

halastair

I am someone who has spent a lot of time researching this time period in terms of Church History / Theological development. Some historical context that might be helpful is that... (1) This was during a time that was significantly before the printing press and a lot of theological developments that would come via Thomas Aquinas, scholastic scholars, etc who answered a lot of theological questions and made the faith more inline with "reason" so it was a lot harder to know which beliefs were biblical vs which ones were heretical, even with good intentions. (2) This specifically was a time period where Christianity began to assert itself more politically and militarily as it became clear that the world wasn't going to end as many expected and people started to assert their own identities after the fall of the Roman Empire. Canute's idea of wanting to create a form of utopia on Earth was actually somewhat common of a justification by rulers although they didn't go nearly as far as Canute did in rejecting God's salvation itself. Many considered their kingdoms to be the legitimate successor of the Roman Empire in this regard. (3) Thorfinn is based on the historical figure Thorfinn Karlsefni who is described in the Saga of the Greenlanders and the Saga of Erik the Red, however the anime takes creative liberties with his story. Once you finish the anime I recommend you looking up his story.

Roy Mathew

I really liked this episode, this marks the beginning of Canute’s journey through purpose and ambition. And I believe that Ragnar was trying to stop this all together by loving him and protecting him in the way that he did. So no matter how much he coddled him, he cared enough to want him to be normal and wished that he would be able to disassociate with the politics in the world. But he couldn’t because he wasn’t his child, he was his duty as a servant of the royal family, and he did everything in his power that he had been given to by the king to raise Canute the way he did. Yet in the end, he became the way that he is, because Ragnar is gone, and he needed something to hold onto, and that’s why I love Canute’s character along with many others in the show. Glad you guys are watching it, I can’t wait to see your reactions to next season.

A.J. Ramos

patiently waiting :')

Leenseoh

Where's Vincenzo TT

Kate

Philosophy tends to question what society has accepted as fundamental truths. Using a similar example from a philosophy course I've taken years ago in college, the "Command Divine Theory" states that what is moral or immoral is determined by God. So, if God says that torturing kittens is immoral, then you would already agree as the vast majority of people have predetermined concepts on what is moral and what is not. However, what if God one day decides that torturing kittens is moral? A person would have a difficult time accepting this as society has already determined certain actions as morally and fundamentally correct. Another example would be the Nazis as they have their own definition on what is "good" for society. If I show you an red apple and point out the color red, then you, or another person, or society will not be able to say that it is not red. Likewise, no one would be able to argue against the equation "2 + 2 = 4." There are fundamental conditions that are implied in **all** truths. Love, or even what is good in life, is conditional, and the priest understands that true love does not discriminate. A Vikings love for war is the not quite the same as Ragner's love for Canute, and true love is universal and unchanging as the snow, water, and mountains around us.

James

The priest was talking about the christian philosophy concept of agape which is a unconditional love to the point that it's self sacrificial, it does not matter to whom, if you will get love or something in return, or how it will impact you. It's usually considered the most "pure" form of christian love. Jesus on the cross is described to be an act of agape for example. Which is also why the priest pointed to the corpse, as now he will not discriminate and give freely. While also acknowledging that agape is essentially impossible to reach by living humans. And Canute realized that God's creation do not discriminate, God's love is unconditional and agape, and yet it's essentially unobtainable to be practiced by humans.

Lavie

Yea Vinland saga is probably one of the most philosophical shows I’ve seen and season two gets drastically deeper with all these ideas

gr2ves

This is why I really like this channel, both Wes and Steph both come off as really well read, introspective and analytical compared to a lot of other reaction channels who don't explore certain ideas or even pick up on certain themes 👀

Person Person

It's been years and years since I took a college course about medieval texts, but from what I recall, what the priest is getting at, regarding love is "agape" or "unconditional love." Ragnar loved Canute in the same way a parent loves their child discriminantly - they love them due to how close to that person they are. The same reason he wasn't impressed with the two brothers saying they have each other's backs - he's looking for an unconditional love for everyone, regardless of personal relationships. The kind of love that is divorced from personal attachments, that is equal for all things and people. It's an ideal form of love - he's looking for the kind of love God/ Jesus is said to have had.

Leonard Martinez

Table's comment is basically what I wanted to say on what the priest was describing so I'm nixing that lol instead I'm just gonna say that author isn't likely 100% Shinto but rather because the entire culture of Japan is formed around the lifestyle of Shinto and Bhuddism mixed together, they understand Pagan worldview better than Westerners. But, given the Christian dialog of the show, they may even be Christian. 🤔 As for what you're saying about Bhuddist "life is suffering" and whether Shinto is the same or not, actually they're complete opposites, which is why it's so unique that they merged in Japan the way they did. Bhuddist philosophy is more like an idea that life is a balance of enduring hardship while being at peace with the rise and falls until they no longer affect you and you reach a perfect balance known as enlightenment, where as animistic religions like Shinto are more centered around life as a natural, primal state and not something you endure and overcome. Like Wesley was saying about Thors and how he interacts with life and is involved with it. That's a very animistic way of thinking like in Shinto and Norse paganism, Celtic witchcraft, ect. The idea is that all things are living, all things deserve to be approached with respect and understanding, all things coexist in a balance called nature. There's only the cycle of life and death and you can't fight that nature. It's almost a crime in our eyes to fight against that nature and resist your primal self. I like to refer to Jungian theory for this and how he teaches accepting all aspects of yourself in order to be at peace. So in Shinto specifically, they believe in finding the beauty in all things, even death, and respecting the nature of it; a complete and utter dichotomy to Bhuddist's "resist the temptation and material. Fight the imbalance" so it's really fascinating how Japan managed to marry them together the way they did. Not as broadly, but they also folded in Christianity in a way that doesn't disrupt and conflict with their culture the way you'd see here. We act like incorporating beliefs from one into our existing religion denounces it and is a disservice, but Japanese just seem to.. accept everything as another puzzle piece to life beautifully, and my theory is that that's because of their Shinto based culture. I feel like watching a Ghibli movie now lol 😂 (Speaking in broad or historical terms btw. I wouldn't say all Japanese are conscious of this aspect to their culture. In fact, you'll find many will say they're atheist and still go to a shrine to pray before a test cuz it's so ingrained lol)

Chels

I think this is a great rundown of what the priest was trying to say. This is also how I conceptually understood it too

Chels

When the priest speaks of love, I think he means a perfect love, as in God's love, unconditional and complete. That's why only the dead may feel love, for they offer everything of themselves to the world, not expecting anything in return. Same with the wind, the snow, or the mountains. Obviously we as humans are unable to reach something like this, which the priest and Canute both attribute to the Original Sin tainting us. I think Bjorn is meant to represent the primal instact of man in his most animalistic state, he is the most sinful in his indiscriminate aggression against everything, the direct opposite of God's perfect love. So Canute speaks to the primal instinct of man directly and offers him love and salvation, something he views God as unwilling to do. Since Bjorn (and therefore humanity) cannot be saved through the trials God set for him, Canute concludes that the meaning of existance as ordained by God is to simply be tested and endure, he resents this idea and decides to become closer himself to the ideal of love he admires, by offering it to someone directly threatening his life. This also relates to Thors's "A true warrior doesn't need a sword" and the "You have no enemies" lines, Thors was the person who came the closest in the show to feeling perfect love for others, choosing to give his life, rather than take Askeladd's.

ATableWithPants

I knew you guys were gonna have a lot to say about this episode lmao. But based on your conversations i think you'll love season 2 even more.

Mitchell Hall

I do think there is a bit of a point the priest has, basically it's kinda the concept of love your enemy, do good to those who hate you, or turn the othet cheek.(foe biblical reference) if you only love those who love you or who you want to love you then it is no different than that which the heathens have. If your only loving those you care about its not the true love that the priest is seeking, its conditional(discrimination) while for example Jesus's love is for all, anyone who wants it can accept it no matter race, homeland, or sin. The comment about the persons death being similar to love(imo) is referring to the fact that now everything he is, is being given to all things of the world, the grass, insects and animals with no discrimination. It's not quite doctrinally correct but the author isn't actually a biblical scholar or Christian/Christian philosopher so I give them some leeway for this.

Joshua Gilbert

When hunter x hunter?

Calt Being


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