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Attack On Titan S4 Episode 21

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I always thought that this future… isn’t from Eren. It’s Yamir’s anger, this is her wrath, this isn’t what Greisha or Eren wanted, this is really what Yamir wants.

Noor E

Annnnnnd there you have it. Why I despise Eren and nothing can convince me he isn't Hitler lol 😅 I don't think even if he stops, I will change my mind because he was willing to go that far in the first place. As for why not all would be royal blood, I think they diluted the blood at some point until non royals were inheriting the spines. Cuz after a while, a child of a child of a child, you will weed out the direct line

Chels

My brain.. lol how did you even articulate that without spiraling into nonsensical "I see all things" gibberish? Cuz my ADHD ass did that just reading your comment 😂 "he sees what eren sees and eren sees what he sees that eren let him see because of what he saw" 🤣🤣🤣

Chels

In Japanese he's telling Zeke to stop Eren. I know this is old now but there you go lol

Chels

Grisha didn't kill the Royal family because the wall had been breached, he didn't even know when it was going to happen. Eren only told him that it was going to happen sometime soon. Grisha kills the Royal family at the exact moment that Bertholdt kicks open the gate and lets the titans in. It's never made clear if Eren intentionally showed Grisha but also while killing the Royal family he sees the Rumbling. He sees Zeke and begs him to stop Eren but once he calms down he decides to not give Eren the Founding Titan. However, when he is nearly home he learns about the wall being breached. When Eren tells him of Carla's death that's a catalyst for Grisha. In his rage at losing yet another person he loves to Marley he changes his mind and he gives Eren the Founding Titan to avenge Carla and give Eren a way to defend himself so Eren doesn't die to Marley too.

Jack

I’m still team eren ✊🏼

Saniah Bullard

So the way it works is that the attack titan power lets you see the memories of your future attack titans. If eren has memories of the past (like when she touches Historia, Grisha wouldn't be able to see that because it's not something Eren sees visually. He just access memories from his past inheritor (Grisha). For Grisha to see something from Eren's future, Eren needs to see it himself or live it himself. So when he connected with Zeke and they went through the memories it created an actual action and memory Eren lived that he could then share back to Grisha. Only the attack titan can have this power, but the founding titan power of living through memories allowed Eren to create that connection

mapo picker

Exactly. Maybe its just easier to grasp for me considering I actually live in a Kingdom. The king and his kids are royal and have royal blood, while the rest of the population is just danish. We have plenty of fairy tales here where someone put a spell under the kingdom, which results in the citizens being cursed.

Simon Maintz

This is also the conclusion that I came to - that all Eldians are able to change into titans but only Ymir's direct descendants have royal blood. Hopefully I'm understanding your breakdown correctly.

Infinite Ree

lmfaaoooo i laughed so hard @31:12

Aly

Will you watch the openings?

Sa _As

We like to judge Eren, but for example, will you be willing to let all the people in America die to save the people in other continents (that by the way, hate you and want you to disappear) or would you rather save your friends, family and home? I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that I understand.

Rodrigo García

I'm not sure what you mean?

Simon Maintz

Every single child of Ymir and Fritz, (Maria, Rose, Sina(Sheena)). are royal blood. Their children are royal blood. So lets again assume they each get three children each. Maria, Rose and Sina now have nine children between them. All Royal blood. The only factor we don't know is how many children they actually got. However we can assume the family descendants of a family expands. To simplify it we can say we begin with 2 parents and their children each get 2 kids. Which would make the equation 2^generations. Assuming 50 generations in 2000 years that would leave the total pop at a million billion... Another thing you problably didn't notice is that King Fritz calls his people for Eldians, they are problably more the bearer of the "curse" than they are direct descendants of Ymir. But we can do some math in case. As you notice "King Fritz" is actually the one in control of Ymir or was.

Simon Maintz

Eren Jaeger is one of the greatest written characters I’ve ever seen. These last 2 episodes were incredible and I remember they blew up the internet when they released! I can’t wait for you guys to finish the series!

Alex5AVA6E

It’s about choosing the lesser evil. Eren’s evil just happens to be eradication of all hahah

Md Sheam Bin Sayhid

I'd not read comments until you guys finish the show, people will start throwing spoilers out like confetti to defend their position on Eren.

Barry

The Titans were all passed down to Ymir's children and then to their children, theres no logical explanation for this plot hole.

Barry

well surely every single descendant of ymir is from the royal line, so it obviously has to be more than that. we know that all current eldians are descendants of ymir and she only had 3 children wich were all with king fritz.

Dank Waifu

This is the episode when everyone realise, “Are we the bad guys?”

Exit

But yeah seriously, if y’all haven’t already, go back and LOOK AT THE TITLE OF EPISODE ONE SEASON ONE (and the first five minutes of the episode, particularly the few minutes after the opening theme with Eren under the tree).

BlastYoBoots

…and now you know why Eren’s Titan is called the “Attack Titan”.

BlastYoBoots

Fritz is a name passed down through the royal family, that was the 1st Fritz, I think the Fritz that made the war pact was the 3rd (I could be wrong of the number, but he was a Fritz) so there's been multiple Fritz. You can watch that opening now I believe. The reason Ymir never spoke is because all the slaves had their tongues cut out, they showed it, but you both believed they were just being killed. I could be wrong with this, but there's 9 titans because Ymirs daughters each had 3 kids, so that's how the 9 titan powers got seperated. I think the reason Erens titan looks like that is because his head was cut off, so that's the "parasite" connecting his head to his body.

Tony

In a nutshell, it's a combination of Eren unwillingness to sacrifice Historia and his friends. Zeke was going to die soon cause of the curse. He saw no other choice in which his friends would be allowed to stay alive, especially with the world tech now being a threat even against Titan, as we saw at the start of the season. Eren is truly one of the few capable of being able to commit mass genocide in order to save his own, like Reiner said at the end of season 2 "The worst possible person to ever have this kind of power is you, Eren!"

Lionx98

You might also want to watch the first few minutes of Episode 1 after its opening theme, not just the title! CHILLS. RECONTEXTUALIZATION.

BlastYoBoots

Probably should have worded my comment better: a full scale rumbling was the most radical, destructive, evil, and selfish method towards any semblance of peace. A smaller rumbling would just weaken the enemy while raising animosity — it's far from a good option but still *comparatively* better. NO OPTION would be easy or morally correct, there will always be a shadow connected. However they could have used Zeke’s royal blood to negotiate, they could have asked Ymir to remove their titan abilities like Steph thought about, they could have gone ahead with Zeke’s plan. The “I'll steal from others before they can steal from me” mindset that Eren has was enforced by the world he lives in. I understand. But it's this mindset that perpetuates this violence. And yes it's realistic in a way, for such drastic choices to be made, but stories don't have to take such directions for it to be considered a masterpiece. *SPOILERS* breaking the cycle (for a while anyway) by killing literally 80% of the population is horrendous and, in my eyes, not necessary.

☾Joey

(SPOILER, in case I spoil something by this comment) - Small scale would be better? So lets say he did a small rumbling, people that are not Eldian would still view the Eldians as a threat and would come together to attack them. Its just like real war. If you're prepared to attack someone, you better be prepared to get wiped out in case it goes bad. - What do you think a small scale rumbling would accomplish in this case?

Simon Maintz

I’ll firstly start by saying what Eren planned is wrong, but I’m not gonna sit here and forget that we have been rooting for Eren since day one. I’m still team Eren even if what he is doing is wrong. In his mind he believes that this was the only way to protect his friends and loved ones on the island.

sam

Yes, we heard the name Fritz several times through the show It was the name given to the (fake) king on Paradis while it was the original name of the Reiss Family (Historia's family) So the real name of the Reiss family, the true royal family is Fritz Also Dina Fritz ! Who was descendant of the royal family who remains on Marley and then married Grisha and gave birth to Zeke So Rod Reiss (Historia's father) is a Fritz along with his brother Uri (Historia's uncle) and his sons and daughters Frieda and Historia are all Fritz and belong to the 1st horrible king Fritz who enslaved Ymir

Mesbah Mohamady

I know why he did it and I understand the point of the show, but that still doesn't mean people have to like Eren lmao There is no good option presented in the show, I get it, but a small scale rumbling would have been way better than this atrocity 😭 buy time for a better solution.

☾Joey

nobody really likes what eren is doing people just get it eren is being selfish thats why hes not going with zekes plan cuz he doesnt want his people to fade away and if hes not going with zeke there really was no other choice outside of the rumbling and yeah what hes doing is absolutely evil but lets be honest the rest of the world is just as bad as eren where they wanted to genocide all eldians its just a smaller number of people compared to the entire world and keep in mind the whole world hates eldians which includes normal civilians and even children so in erens mind the literall whole world is his enemy thats why hes doing this. again nobody likes what eren is doing not even eren himself but if you cant why hes doing it than you missed the whole point of the show

Marko Genter

There are actually several theories about why isn’t everybody considered royal blood, one is that by royal blood they don’t mean actual royalty but whoever out of the three daughters of Ymir and Fritz the first inherited the founding titan after eating the remains of her mother, so if for example it was Maria only her children would be royal blood and then only her grandchildren, another theory (and the most plausible one tbh) is that royalty works the same as in our world, out of the three daughters only one ended up being the queen, and when the queen had kids those kids started to mix only among each other, meaning they would marry their cousin or brother, that kept the royal blood only in one line and the blood of the other two sisters eventually got diluted enough for it to not be able to make an impact

carocatowr

Eldians are King Fritz people. Only fritz / ymir line is considered royal. Just like in a kingdom. Not all the people are royal blood, just the king and his family basically.

Simon Maintz

And from here on I stopped taking Eren defenders seriously lmfao Like I still sympathise with the guy (barely) but his actions are… just evil 💀

☾Joey

Remember the first episode title? 😉

NJ

In all honesty, I never thought Zeke's plan was all that bad, especially compared to what Eren is doing now lol. While it would suck that Eldians can't have kids anymore, I would think that in exchange for getting rid of titans and ending the cycle, it would be well worth it. Adoption could be an option :shrug:

Zarroc


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