Mushoku Tensei S2 Episode 17
Added 2024-05-08 17:37:46 +0000 UTCComments
I appreciate your guys' "therapy" lol cuz it helped me sort my own feelings and thoughts too. I think I said it waaaaaaaay back in season 1 episode 3-5 maybe, but I relate so much to Rudy and honestly, he's grown so much more than I thought he would, because I haven't grown past early S2 Rudy myself. Or in some ways, I'm still young Rudy, who was too scared to leave their yard. I'm still in the midst of trying to figure out how to leave my house and emotionally, I'm just learning to begin to let go of 30 years of trauma (that are still ongoing, so I also have to manage it as it comes while unpacking the rest) in living with my bully. Actually, with this episode I might even say I relate to Norn identically (at least in her world view) because of the fact she's scared of Rudy but everyone thinks he's great, and to her, he is her bully because he bullied her father, she's scared Rudy will kick her out if she does something wrong eg. Being herself, and rather than physical threats stopping her from leaving her room, it's her anxiety that locks her in her room. That is like looking in a mirror. So this episode was extremely hard, but eye opening in at least understanding how I need to be approached because my mom is a fix-it. She CAN'T stand seeing me mad, sad, depressed, or failing to function and so she always tries to help but in the worst ways, but I never knew how to articulate what upset me about how I'm approached or what I needed. Either author is a therapist, or they are writing from personal experience cuz damn lol. But aside from my own therapy session, what I wanted to say about the show is that I was thinking to myself "gods, I relate so hard to him. Well.. not the degenerate side" which made me realize not only how much Rudy has grown as a person that his degenerate side has become nonexistent from what we can see, I also had my own journey as a degenerate lol in my young adult years, I basically purposely subjected myself to repeated traumas to self-cope and so I wonder if degenerousy can be a symptom of basically losing your sense of compassion because of your own traumas? Like if you hate the world, you basically take on behavior that can be anti-social in nature because your empathy gets broken? And if by growing his sense of self again and learning empathy for others, Rudy has started to learn what social behavior is acceptable? I think that's a very interesting idea that got passively weaved into the story. 🤔 if I ever get back into school (yay crippling debt~🎉) I'll have to study if there's something to that in peer-reviewed studies.
Chels
2024-05-09 12:06:54 +0000 UTCReally love how you guys always look at stuff from a pragmatic vs emotional lenses. Keep Re:zero on the polls! I'm sure great discussions will happen when it comes around
Loro Lukic
2024-05-09 07:11:12 +0000 UTCrudy is just living his life and not looking for zenith because he was specifically told that paul didnt need his help anymore, that they knew where zenith was and that they had more than enough party members to get her on their own
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 03:25:47 +0000 UTCaisha doesnt have a bad view of rudy because lillia basically intended to groom her into being his personal maid/potential wife so in her head thats kinda what she wants, whereas norn only knows him as the guy who beat up her dad for seemingly no reason
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 03:21:15 +0000 UTCrudy is only like half aware of his reputation, due to his low confidence he doesnt personally think hes all that special, but he does notice how people react to him, and will think "is it because ____? nah, must be something else im not that special"
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 03:17:44 +0000 UTCall of rudys past family tried very hard to help him for a long time
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 03:11:11 +0000 UTCalso its just not mentioned much in the anime, only a few passing lines, but in the novels, i believe he had 2 brothers and a sister, the brothers were who kicked him out before he died
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 03:10:18 +0000 UTCnorn doesnt really remember sylphy at all, and also rudy isnt bad at healing magic he just cant do it without incantations
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 03:06:06 +0000 UTCas for linia and pursena stealing underwear, in their heads they werent extorting anyone or anything, they legitimately just asked some of the girls, never forced them, because they thought rudy would like the gift, but because they are known bullies all the girls went along with it and gave them up. They had thought it was 100% consenting on all sides
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 03:00:23 +0000 UTCiirc, linia and pursena just saw rudeus mad and going to norns class and followed him, he didnt ask for them to be backup of any kind, not until he went to their dorm anyways
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 02:58:28 +0000 UTCalso the reason he went to the class first is that he cant just walk into the girls dorm to visit norn as thats not allowed since hes a man, plus he assumed bullying was the issue (because thats what caused him to become a shut in) so he figured he could deal with the problem at its source to start
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 02:55:21 +0000 UTCif youre wondering about peoples reactions to him passing him in the hall in the beginning, know that a lot of people are kinda scared of rudy, him and his friend group are laregely considered to be a mysterious gang due to the fact they are all special students, linia and pursena have bad reputations, and they are all closely associated with asuran royalty (ariel), on top of all that rudy is probably the single most powerful mage any of these people have ever met, whom they all witnessed one shot a demon king who took out like half the male population of the school back to back to back just for a chance to fight him, which is another reason not mentioned that norn was wary of him, because he is just an intimidating person to anyone who isnt in his friend group
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 02:52:41 +0000 UTCif youre wondering about peoples reactions to him passing him in the hall in the beginning, know that a lot of people are kinda scared of rudy, him and his friend group are laregely considered to be a mysterious gang due to the fact they are all special students, linia and pursena have bad reputations, and they are all closely associated with asuran royalty (ariel), on top of all that rudy is probably the single most powerful mage any of these people have ever met, whom they all witnessed one shot a demon king who took out like half the male population of the school back to back to back just for a chance to fight him, which is another reason not mentioned that norn was wary of him, because he is just an intimidating person to anyone who isnt in his friend group
Aphelion Audio
2024-05-09 02:52:36 +0000 UTCGlad but also sad about you two not seeing the next title.
Liam
2024-05-08 23:36:37 +0000 UTCWhen I say Mushoku Tensei is my favorite Light Novel series - it’s because of chapters like the ones this episode covers, or the 1st season’s fight with Rudeus & Paul… this series does such a good job of setting up those tough scenarios where no one is really necessarily in the wrong, but everyone feels hurt by the situation, and they have to grow and overcome it 1 step at a time… sometimes the smallest of steps, sometimes making strides in one direction while stagnating in another, but still… u gradually end up in a very different place from where we started, and these moments that showcase that feel so human for every party involved. The interpersonal relationships are done so well at times, with everybody being very flawed - yet none feeling like a caricature. Love Norn as a character, and while I wouldn’t say this episode perfectly captured how powerless and stressed out Rudeus felt when worrying about her… (I’d expected him to seem more ragged and pathetic when she saw how similar his vulnerable side is to Paul’s… ) but still, it did pretty dang good!
The Anime Dude
2024-05-08 22:22:46 +0000 UTCAhhh they missed the next episodes name 😭 oh well they’ll see it next week
WRam
2024-05-08 20:25:41 +0000 UTCIn my opinion Rudy did the best thing. he acknowledged her feelings and then told and showed her that he is there for her if she ever wants to reach out. You can't force someone to accept help, as much as you want to and as much as it hurts, all you can do is to be there when they reach out. When Norns stomache ached she tried to reach out but noone was there to take her hand. Having been in that situation, this scene hit me so hard
Honeybadger
2024-05-08 20:16:17 +0000 UTCWas hoping to see your reaction when you saw the next episode's title at the end lol oh well. But yeah, having read the book, I was worried they were gonna skip over his sister's issue or portray them poorly in the anime. Glad they didnt.
Cion Distan
2024-05-08 19:33:05 +0000 UTCThis episode hit the feels so hard, glad you guys enjoyed it as well as I did. Also I think yes the older brother did try for someone around that age, and he suggested them get out and get food, so they can talk more and he can get out of the house.
A.J. Ramos
2024-05-08 18:16:55 +0000 UTC
