Vinland Saga Episode 5
Added 2024-05-23 17:00:12 +0000 UTCComments
I 100% agree and I’m sorry that happened to you. Kids can be vicious and definitely need to be taught from an early age. The thought of my kids in middle school terrifies me a little for that very reason.
Wes And Steph
2024-05-27 23:18:39 +0000 UTCAwww haha thank you so much!!
Wes And Steph
2024-05-27 23:15:10 +0000 UTCI had the same reaction when I initially watched this, I didn’t know how to the progression of the story would go. This show is easily one of my favorites.
A.J. Ramos
2024-05-23 22:36:16 +0000 UTCFound you guys on Youtube but knew I had to sub to the Patreon when I saw you were covering Vinland!! I love your commentary so much, especially Wesley's, I could listen to him talk for hours lol
mir
2024-05-23 22:13:28 +0000 UTCOne thing I found people have a problem believing (and it came up with this show a little bit) that children can be capable of being killers, which is what Thorfinn is on his way to being with all his hatred. But I watched a series of just child killers and it's like you said, they don't have the ability to scope out yet and consider what they are doing, so all the child killers I've seen have been almost worse than serial killers. They're capable of truly horrific acts or cold bloodedness. I also have been a child with 0 empathy until it harmed someone bad enough I learned my lesson, and I'm also a victim of another child's cruel abuse over many years (not bullying, but I'm not going to explicitly say what was done to me) and so I have this firm stance that parents need to be held more accountable for their children's acts of violence, because one thing I perceive is that many people believe children are born innocent and kind and pure. They don't see their child as a tiny human without a developed frontal cortex. What is a human without a developed frontal cortex? An animal, nearly. We depend on our ability to reason and empathize to separate ourselves from animals, but why do we expect children to just know how to do that? They have to be taught! It's so so so important they are taught to be empathetic and it angers me how many times I see parents just assuming their child is good and that child ends up killing someone, raping someone, shooting a school.. Anyway, my point is, I think the author handled this point soooo realistically, and I think they do because in Japan, it is part of their culture to instill understanding and empathy (though they fall short on it as a society with the "don't talk out your problems" issue) and they also uniquely see the most child killers in ratio. They obviously don't have school shootings because no guns, but they are particularly good at torture. 😶 anyway, this touches a subject of Psychology I'm very interested in and I was concerned by the amount of people I've seen calling out the author for making Thorfinn "unrealistically bloodthirsty for a child" when it first was being released. But once again, in rewatching this, I'm intrigued by how realistically the author writes Thorfinn, even how he develops as a character later on is like watching my own growth and shows me how to carry forward. 🥰 but ya, always remember to take the time to teach your children empathy as best you can. ESPECIALLY in the digital age where socializing through screens is creating a deficit in young people's ability to differentiate reality from fiction (proven Psychological study if you want to research it) which is allowing for more antisocial behavior online which is then translating to offline as well. Nobody is born knowing how to see life from another person's perspective and realizing that fact does not in any way mean you don't love your kid or whatever. Sometimes loving your children means realizing they are capable of things you didn't expect. Thors was a great man, but a bad father in this show. He had a very hands off approach and left it up to others to teach his children how to be, and you see the moment he realizes he underestimated Thorfinn when he broke that kid's arm. He does try to talk to Thorfinn, but he talks to him like he's an adult. Like he's supposed to understand philosophy. He's a child, Thors! Lol my Gods.. but you also see it in Ylva. She is callous, selfish, haughty, she doesn't understand empathy at all or even sympathy and can't even give it to her own father and brother when she learns their fate, or even herself for that matter when she's obviously upset but takes that as a weakness, and annoyance. She didn't understand how she was feeling or why so she didn't want to deal with it. It was stupid to her. You will also see it in her behavior later.. I think it is tragic that Thors had such good ideals but never fully ingrained them into his children, which causes so much unnecessary agony for Thorfinn on his journey. Phew.. sorry for the lengthy post lol like I said, I love this topic. Oh and as a disclaimer about the frontal cortex thing, I don't mean offense when I say those with deficient frontal cortexs' are animals (or like animals depending how you view humans) I myself am ADHD and LIKELY autistic (WIP diagnosis) but from what I learned in psychology, we have 2 brains. One we now call "lizard brain" which is the one all animals have, and then what we recognize as the brain now that developed over top of the other one. Those of us with impairments in the parts of our brains that make us human (ability to empathize, zooming out to a bigger picture and gaining perspective, ect.) default to the animal brain, making us super impulsive, careless, often unsympathetic or unempathetic.. ect. Like animals, so we react on the base instincts of every animal. We fight if we feel we need to fight, we are capable of killing if we need to kill, and we will do things out of curiosity that just shouldn't be done for curiosity sakes. Ie. Killing or harming others (which half the kids that became murders said it started from curiosity, while a quarter said they were mad, and the other quarter said that something or someone made them do it) Anyway, that's all I meant, not to dehumanize children or people with disabilities.
Chels
2024-05-23 21:47:08 +0000 UTC
