Alice In Borderland Episode 5
Added 2025-01-22 20:09:06 +0000 UTCComments
Rewatching this series, and only commenting this since Wes and Steph have finished, but slight warning if others haven't seen further ahead: I think that, with what we know about Aguni later on, him trying to take Usagi away was probably his way of trying to do a favor for her and Arisu while still maintaining his appearance as the tough militant leader. Since if he "wants" her, she basically becomes untouchable by all the other wild guys that he has to keep under control, and we know that a big part of his role is to keep those loose cannons in check.
Haisoh
2026-02-26 15:53:10 +0000 UTC(Sorry, 2nd comment but more serious. Mega long so ignore if not your thing, pls) I think something that escapes a lot of people but really adds a level of depth to Hatter under his facade is his host club story, and a lot of people understandably go "oh, of course. Makes sense with all the glitz and glam and ego" but while scene partly is set up to show us he is full of himself and high on his own ego, there is a touch of a crack in his mask at the end, and when you know about the realities of being a Host, it kind of impacts how you look at Hatter in that scene. It's also kind of important to me to share my friend's experiences as a Host and correct any notion that Host's are a bunch of party boy Himbo's who live lavishly (though not 100% false either but at a cost) read on if interested. So, my Japanese friend, whom I mention occasionally as an example of certain things with his permission (he just has a very interesting life) he worked many years as a Host in Osaka, somehow that is relevant but I dunno, he says it makes a difference because lots of shady dealings and owners in Osaka clubs. Lots of them Yakuza related. Just in the time I've known him as he worked as a host, there were a lot of predatory things that scared me for him. He did a lot of, I guess personal work, so clients could contact him, take him out and such, and then they'd put him all over forums blasting him for whatever. The amount of photos of him I seen in vulnerable situations was sick. They force them to drink, vomit, drink, vomit for hours until it ruined my friend's throat permanently and he also had pancreatitis from over consumption of alcohol. His pay was dependent on not just how much alcohol he sold, but also on the women he served, which forced him to deal with things no human should have to put up with, such as ripping out his dermal piercing because the girl was jealous of other customers, for eg. There's a documentary on Host clubs, but my friend told me truly horrifying, predatory things that traumatized him working in that industry that the documentary wouldn't have been able to legally discuss and I dunno if my friend would want me to here. Just.. it's bad ya'll π so my thinking is that Hatter is especially cracked in the head not only from the trauma of leading the club to ruin and pushing someone to suicide, but in order to be promoted and pushed to the top of a Host club (many of them inherit the club to the top Hosts when they retire) you have to all-but sacrifice your humanity, dignity, and mental health to be the top Host. And look, I'll amend that many people love their jobs as hosts, it all depends on the club you work, but the environment can quickly lead to the mentality of "oh, to get ahead I need to be the perfect fake bf and sacrifice everything to get to the top, even my health" My friend now has to breathe some kind of vapor from a machine twice a day every day and is on many medications. His career as a vocalist for a band was cut short because his vocal cords were essentially incinerated from having to puke 40x a night to keep from getting too drunk. Like Hatter said "no matter how much they force you to drink, you must maintain your human dignity" ie. "Puke 40x a night because if you get drunk and embarrass the club, you're a disgrace and don't deserve good clients/are fired" so you commonly hear from hosts about how they start to see blood when they vomit. Ach, ok now I'm repeating myself, it just makes me angry remembering everything my friend was going through. When I visited him, his apartment was literally like a hospital with a lot of name brand gifts piled in a corner. Medical stuff to treat permanent conditions caused by that work and now he can't even pay bills because he is drowning in medical bills. Do you know how often you have to go to the hospital to drown in medical bills in Japan? Quite often. He gets an MRI or CT scan like once a month. π© I got one once and am in debt for the rest of my life. I can't imagine getting multiple. Alright that's enough of my PSA. I think Hatter is a very interesting character you can better understand if you view him from the lens of him having severe trauma from not just the suffering he caused that he acknowledges, but also the trauma from the unspoken knowledge that in order to get where he was to do that damage, he had to suffer twice as hard as everyone to get there and I think it's a bit of irony for him to say "you can't lose your human dignity" because in a way, he had. Not only as a host and host club leader, but also as a person from that experience.
Chels
2025-02-06 08:57:50 +0000 UTCRewatch but I noticed something interesting. When Hatter confronts Aguni and asks him who his boss is, Aguni responds with "anta da daro?" Because I have a friend who talks like this, it didn't think about it too much before, but this time around I caught that Aguni said it very pointedly and "anta" is the aggressive form of "anata" (you) "da" is a particular choice of particle that makes things informal, then "daro" which again, an impolite form of "deshou" or even further up the respect tree, "desu yo" (are/aren't you?) In short, Aguni was being aggressively rude, where Hatter used language a boss would to a worker, Aguni responded with VERY familiar and blunt language, which in Japanese culture not only is abrupt, blunt, and aggressive, but it lowered Hatter down to his level and stripped him of all respect. I think there's an extra hidden stab in the words because they used to be close enough to talk like that to each other, but Hatter got big for his britches and so Aguni was very much like yanking Hatter off his high horse and saying "you may be my boss rn, but remember, we're the same" kinda thing
Chels
2025-02-06 08:01:53 +0000 UTCIs there a way to hide it behind a spoiler tag? I don't know how so I guess spoilers ahead: Mad hatter -> hatter, March hare -> aguni Doormouse -> Niragi Caterpillar -> Kuina White Queen -> Ann Jabberwocky -> last boss Mock turtle -> tatta Tweedle siblings-> Asahi&momoka
Honeybadger
2025-02-05 21:59:41 +0000 UTCI thought Aguni wanted to recruit Usagi because heβs seen her parkour and the other Niragi just took it the other way so he said that. Aguni just doesnβt seem like the type to SA and also since he asked about Kurabe heβs was probably gonna recruit him too
Chideraa Udegbulem
2025-01-29 01:09:25 +0000 UTCI believe itβs only a 1/3 chance if you canβt verify that one is wrong but since they saw that B was wrong it becomes 2/3 chance
Chideraa Udegbulem
2025-01-29 01:06:46 +0000 UTCCan you say who is who but like spoiler tag it because I been googling and canβt figure it out
Chideraa Udegbulem
2025-01-29 01:05:25 +0000 UTCOops, you're right. Let me just delete my stupid comment lol.
Tuny kun
2025-01-25 16:26:31 +0000 UTCbtw Wes you were singing Nicki Minaj during the intro
kookiekosmos
2025-01-25 14:25:04 +0000 UTCI don't think this is spoiler territory, because character traits don't necessarily align with their wonderlands counterpart New wonderlands characters I think we met this episode: The mad hatter, The march hare, The doormouse, The caterpillar, Tweedle Dee & tweedle dum, White queen, Mock turtle, Jabberwocky Also one Borderlands character can be associated with multiple wonderlands characters, and vice versa
Honeybadger
2025-01-23 19:37:29 +0000 UTCThe author stated that all the games could be cleared with minimal to no deaths. Even the 7 of hearts (The wolf and sheep one) but they never released the strategy of how to get everyone out of that one
Justin Martinez
2025-01-23 09:48:02 +0000 UTCThe Hatter believes in the phrase, βthe ends justify the means,β which is why he rationalized the suicide (saying how it helped his character grow) and why he doesnβt care about who he loses along the way. Wonder if this is his persona/decorum or his actual ideology.
Maya
2025-01-22 23:03:25 +0000 UTCThe correct answer was A, so you guys were right. (Both Ann and Arisu said the answer. Switch B was flipped at the end, but that was not the answer. They only had to SAY the answer, not flip the correct switch.)
Yorutia
2025-01-22 23:03:05 +0000 UTCGuys, this is not the Monty Hall problem. In the Monty Hall problem, you have 66% chance of winning after switching because the host interferes conditionally. Here, this is just a simple probability problem with the total chance of winning = 1/3 + 2/3*1/2 = 2/3 (or to put in another way, there are three choices and you can essentially guess twice).
Yorutia
2025-01-22 22:58:54 +0000 UTCHey Steph, if you want to know about the 66% thing (and also probably get confused and upset) search up the Monty Hall problem (my recommendation is this Numberphile video). It' s a "fun" thing that math majors like to argue about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lb-6rxZxx0
Tuny kun
2025-01-22 22:18:19 +0000 UTCit's at around 22:20
Callum
2025-01-22 21:41:51 +0000 UTCnot sure if you noticed but the ace cards aren't in play anymore, if you look at the wall of cards they've got, at the very left is the ace cards which will just be the level 1 difficulty of each suit
Callum
2025-01-22 21:40:51 +0000 UTCIt's 66% because it's a Monty Hall problem
Hayate
2025-01-22 21:10:56 +0000 UTC
