I guess we can't really say for certain it got 19+ because of it being gay. It is a bit more intense than other M/Vs I agree. However, apart from the traditional Kpop idol M/Vs I have seen videos that have 'intense make out' on the level of Holland with 15+ ratings. I can't name them off the top of my head, but I remember because when I used to work at a music distributor, one of my jobs was to handle the rating process of the M/Vs.
I also understand your disappointment in us removing the reaction video. We also didn't want to remove it, as we have never done so for other videos. However, we figured it's one thing to be called out by fans because we bashed their artist's music, then it's another to be called a homophobe all over the internet. We don't want to have one video be taken out of context to define who we are as people, so we took it down. We do admit we may have some homophobic aspects to us, but we aren't trying in anyway to offend other people. We thought what we said would be a totally okay thing to say, as in the Korean society, everyone says those things without receiving any kind of backlash. And now we know. I'm sorry if we offended you, and thanks for being understanding.
DKDKTV
2018-02-04 03:26:10 +0000 UTC
Frank said it best everything I couldn't quite express!
Kimber Clifton
2018-02-04 02:28:41 +0000 UTC
I 've got some questions: I've watched a ton of K-pop M/V's and Holland's video was the first that I remember that had a full kissing scene totally visible. All the kissing scenes I've noted are simulated/filmed in a way that you don't see lip contact. I've assumed this was done, partial so that the M/V could have wider distribution/exposure through a lower age restriction. What would/is an identical scene like Holland's but between a guy and gal be tagged? Would/Is a even more "intense" (like open mouth/tongue) between a man and woman get a +19 or higher if it exists for M/V's? Again since I've never seen a M/V with a "mainstream" artist/company have any kind of "real" kissing scene, I'm assuming no-one would film an intense make-up scene? What do you think the general public reaction would be to a "heavy heterosexual make-out' scene in a M/V? I assume that if the "street reactors" were shown the same Holland scene but with opposite sexes ~1/3 of them would have the same or very similar reaction, at least initially. I assume their societal/deeper thoughts would not be similar for most of them. I'm disappointed that you removed the Holland video. I'm almost certain I understand most of the reasoning you used to remove it. However you should live-up to who you are and keep more of your "integrity". From the very limited exposure I have of you two you seem to be homophobic, but I don't really know you guys, Both of you definitely make homophobic remarks. But, for me, it matters to me "where" I think that homophobia is coming from and how/why I think you express it. I think you guys are ignorance about sexuality including your own. (Like a large majority of any population particularly younger people). I don't think you are being purposefully mean in your remarks. Keep in mind I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area in the 70's, so you know?... Btw I'm ignorance about some stuff as well. Ignorance in itself is not bad, kind-of depends what you do about your ignorance.
Frank Ansak
2018-02-03 20:17:07 +0000 UTC
im not against any lbgt. i support true love in any form. but i guess the scene is too intimate for me😅