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(Early Access) An honest conversation about BLM [Soju Time with Danny]

Hi Ducks! 

Hope you enjoy this early access. Welcome to our new series... Soju Time with Danny. I sat down with Mike and talked about BLM, what it's like living as a Black man, and more.

We're making a short highlight clip of this video as well, so if you comment down your favorite part, that would be very helpful! 

(Early Access) An honest conversation about BLM [Soju Time with Danny]

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This episode is why I became a patreon patron (although it was slowly heading there since I absolutely adore all the youtube vids). But Danny literally tries his best to stay woke, to understand and to educate himself. That kind of passion inspires me to do the same about other cultures. Again I absolutely love this and I'm happy to support you guys!

Megan

a good conversation. One of the problems that we have in the US is not being able to have civil discourse. it always seems to end in some type of fight. hopefully this will help start a conversation.

Cathy

I love this conversation. Thanks for being genuinely curious and you seem like a good friend.

Kaye Leana

There’s also people in Youtubers who lived in Korea like Kennie KD or even Whitney would I think we better at talking about these discussions that him. or you could even reach out to people in the Black Lives Matter organization they would love to I’m sure I’ll be willing to discuss this topic with you. I just feel like a lot of Korean Youtubers I just going to the black American friends and asking them what they think. Which perhaps is not the best way of going about such a topic.

David Carlton Turner

Yeah I agree. I think Rachel Kim did another video about this with the same guy. There’s actually a few Korean Americans who have social media platform so you could interview about this subject as well. Who support Black Lives Matter and I’ve done a good job talking about why Koreans especially Korean Americans should be concerned about what’s happening to Black people.

David Carlton Turner

I wish this interview had two Black Americans. It would have brought about more balance of perspective. Many of this gentleman's responses, to me, I could tell that he doesn't have a deep level of experience with the things he's trying to talk about. He's not really ensconced in the pain of the Black American experience, I can just tell by listening to him. I just don't think he's the person to talk deeply about this topic. At least not by himself. I also realize that there aren't that many Black Americans around over there. But still.

Asjah Monroe

favorite part was the teaching moment with the students! Also the part where you said after the korean war, you guys were still fighting, was nice. Also mikes moms experience really put into perceptive of how recent blatant racism from 50s was!

sophia

Interesting discussion. I know your audience is mainly non Korean, but it might be cool if this series could bridge to a more Korean audience. If you continue interviewing people from many different backgrounds maybe this could be a series of videos that connect your current audience to Korean viewers. Would you consider subtitling this in Korean?

Eri

Excited to watch! A while ago Danny you asked which country was the next to produce their first Kpop idol after Indonesia... I had a thought today-It’s India. India is next.

Eri

I was thinking about the Afro hairstyle,popular in the '70's.Rock stars would never have copied the Afro to look cool,just because it became a popular style for blacks.

Carol Gardens

Whoa!This interview was great...and thank you for discussing a range of topics like music and hairstyles.I have lived in California ,since I was a teenager,so I can only imagine that Korean citizens have little understanding of movements that were statements about empowering blacks,and the only individuals who copied the hairstyle,that were not black,were individuals making fun of and dissing the idea of celebrating race.Perhaps young people,in other countries,today, copy styles that they believe are modern and different from their own parents,not realizing that some styles,like the do-rag were meant to make a statement about being proud of a culture from your family and your neighborhood,so the opposite of conformity.

Carol Gardens

I like this new segment. It's weird that people don't understand that we aren't trying to take over or seem superior. We just want to be treated equal and for them to stop killing us. It's odd to have to be begged to not be killed. I'm not personally offended when anyone tries to wear black hairstyles if they aren't going around disrespecting the culture or the people. I wouldn't imitate someone's culture before trying to research and understanding the culture attached to it. From experience when non-black people make black jokes, it's because they don't consider you black. Since I was in middle school people have told me, "oh it's okay, you aren't black" because I didn't act like the stereotypical black person that was portrayed to people over the years. I get what you are saying Danny, but if someone is ignorant of the word or the context of the word, then it shouldn’t be said. It just like using a word you just learned, but don’t know how to use it or what context it is used. People would usually look the word up to see the context of how the word is used. People prefer to be ignorant at times. Education is key! Mike is right, we are kind of groomed to think that we are the world power and blah blah blah. Most people don’t know what’s going on over here just like we don’t really know what is going on in other countries unless we see it on our “news” channels, or we search for the information ourselves. It does help to better understand other races especially since Korea is becoming more popular and the number of foreigners that are living there are increasing.

Jemishia

Well. Where do I even begin? I love this concept, Danny. At minute 20, you are flushing (just like me after one drink), but this is really where the conversation gets very interesting. (I guess you loosened up.) Danny, definitely highlight the need to be an ally and call out the use of the N-word and appropriation (locks and monetizing dance moves). Also, I can relate to the incident Mike described about “you two look alike,” as I have experienced this in the US (apparently my Taiwanese friend, my Chinese friend and I are interchangeable). Those kids are so fortunate to have Mike as a teacher. His teaching moment with them was fantastic as well. As Mike states, BLM began organically in 2013 with the death of Trayvon Martin. It was started by three women, Alicia Garza, Opal Tometi and Patrisse Cullors. But their work was often overshadowed by men (i.e., DeRay Mckesson) trying to gain notoriety. The women, two of whom are queer, initially wanted to highlight the plight of LGBTQ Black lives but Trayvon’s murder accelerated the movement. Also, when a person has never been a victim of violence or racism, it is always easier to say, “We should do this or act in this way.” I grew up in the South as the only Korean in my small East Tennessee town of 8000. The confederate flag is a mainstay there … plastered on trucks with other offensive language about Black and Brown people. That said, I also read the reports on the rope in the garage stall. It was stated that the rope had been there for months, and no one knew it was there when Wallace was assigned to that stall. Now, in terms of the “cries of racism” one must understand that in the atmosphere of NASCAR, there is already a heightened awareness that many in the industry are in fact racist. So, in Wallace’s case, he has the right to feel fear (just as Mike points out that fear in the US when faced with someone who has a gun or in this case, a rope). Here’s a link to the most recent news story (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/sports/autoracing/nascar-noose-bubba-wallace.html). Having said all that, I will also say that I currently live in the Midwest (close enough to where George Floyd died). The Midwest seems liberal and genuinely nice. But that niceness is actually white liberal charity. At least when I am in the South, I feel I know with whom I am dealing. Also, I noticed that all those “tourists” in hanboks were white. When my husband and I with our biracial kids lived in Seoul in 2015-2016, I found myself learning more about the country of my birth. Firstly, many of my fellow Korean adoptees are of mixed race and were sent out of the country because they were mixed and unwanted by the Korean society. My DNA shows me as mostly Korean (a little Japanese too). 

I observed that when I was out and about with my mixed kids, many Korean people looked on us as less than. There were young kids laughing at my kids and making fun. One day, my husband said, “Koreans are prejudice against me. The last seat on the train is always the ones next to me.” My husband is a British white guy. So, while I did observe it, people didn’t seem to look down on him. Also, when he and my kids were together, they didn’t get the same looks as they did when they were with me. I wrote about this on my blog at the time. (https://www.mothermade.us/2015/11/korea-marriage-white-privilege-and.html) So, yes, Koreans still have some things to work out. 

That all said, America is currently fucked up, and all I can do is dream about moving back to Seoul.

mothermade

Yes sorry about that. we’re going to fix it.

DKDKTV

Going off topic..i think there's a problem with the audio in the video. Only the right side works in my headphones. Or is it just me?. other audio works fine for me

hibah 92

Great interview Danny, I just loved it and I would liked to have asked a few questions myself. I want to add a note to the Nascar noose story. The FBI sent 15 agents to investigate and as it turns out, the is a rope with a loop at the end resembling a noose in every garage not just that one driver's garage and it is used to facilitate pulling down the garage door. U reach up, grab the loop and pull. But that didn't stop the mainstream media from running with the story with cries of racism and then whimpering away in silence when they find out they are wrong. The results got no where near the coverage that the initial complaint got. Which just goes to show they are only interested in sensationalism and not truth. The driver has since walked back his story once he was shown the truth. The media is not helping the problem by fanning the flames. They are supposed to be truthful and honest in their reporting to the people. There is enough racism to be rooted out without having to lie about. This has the reverse effect because people see that and say, you see, it was lie, they are all lying about racism, and that's not true either and it hurts the cause. There is a rising tide in America of black leaders, Civil rights lawyers and educators who are now calling out the BLM movement for hijacking the cause to advance their own agendas instead of advancing the lives of black people. I sent to a message in Patreon with information you can research on this matter and see for yourself. Absolutely no one I know, no one I've talked to, no one in law enforcement agrees with what those officers did to George floyd. But just as every black is not a criminal, neither is every police officer a racist. The looters and rioters are not protesters. They are opportunistic criminals who could care less about the protest and they need to be dealt with. We all have to work together to solve this and stop painting each other with the broad brush of racism and police brutality. Yes it exists, and when it happens those people need to be punished, not everybody. On a scale of the amount of times it occurs versus the amount of times it does not occur, the ratio is small and most likely can be addressed with training. Training costs money and defunding the police means they won't get the training they desperately need. We have to thing about the consequences of what we do to try to fix the problem. We could wind up making it worse. Cooler heads need to prevail.

Steven Pambello

Good interview Danny! Just one area I wanted to add about locks. Locks and natural hair are still not acceptable hairstyles in many American circles including schools and workplaces. So when we see others doing something for 'style' when we are still being shamed for it, it's upsetting. Check out these videos for some context: https://youtu.be/TeboOIciwwI and https://youtu.be/9W0ghN3CaHg Both those videos were pretty recent. I have a personal story of a friend who was told by his high school to cut his afro whereas white students were allowed in class with long hair. It's really annoying. You will also notice that some people are removing the term "dread" from locks in an attempt to remove the negative connotation. Again, great interview and I love the intro!

Joy


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