Another YouTube strike.

You joke, but without some form of protection many content creators won't be a thing at all. As ubiquitous as YouTube might seem it still runs on the same principle as any other business: Money. If the creators aren't making any then they'll do something that does. It's the very reason Clive uses Patreon to begin with.

Randi Tastix

The EU will soon regulate itself into having a segregated internet that is about as useful and functional as a 1999 mobile phone WAP browser. Enjoy.

Jeff Groves

With new EU laws, and laws elsewhere, this problem will grow. They will have to enact new laws to deal with those that abuse the others. Yay. In the mean time we are stuck in the middle.

Nani Isobel

Cody tried Vimeo and that didn't work. :(

Nani Isobel

Thanks for the clarification. That might explain why I didn't see it in archive.org

Jim

I believe the link you're referring to is actually hosted on EndlessVideo, which is asking for authentication when you click on it due to the video not being on YouTube anymore. The date 9 Oct 2018 is when Google first saw the EndlessVideo link, not when the video was actually uploaded to YouTube. I have the original video downloaded (I archive channels that I like) and it was uploaded on 2017-03-29

AJH

Do they not know who you are!

David Pearson

PeerTube is looking better and better.

George Dorn

There must be a decent alternative to YouTube. Google are certainly getting nothing off me for premium YouTube / Music services when they act like this.

John Russell

this is stupid.... Youtube needs an overhaul

Richard Boyce

Are the Dutch being fussy because of Brexit ?

Is it 3 strikes and your channel is banned/shut down ?

I just searched Google for (bigclive roller limit switch) and found an entry for Oct 9 2018. Is this the offending post? If I shouldn't have posted this please just delete.

Jim

Good Lord, YouTube is stupid.

Very disappointing, I believe in the video you even went out of your way to specify your opinion of it being fake, so it isn't like the audience were misled in any way. Really big shame there still isn't a good alternative to youtube!

Adam 'RDL' Taylor

I'd totally argue that case to YouTube. I'd have to agree with that fair usage argument, or at least educational usage.

Adam 'RDL' Taylor

It would make Skynet more exciting if it just shot people on a whim.

Big Clive

It's the second time, but I managed to get the first one lifted. Otherwise I would no longer be able to upload video content.

Big Clive

The first stage is not reviewed by a human. I've requested human intervention.

Big Clive

The way the company was reacting it would still have gone ahead.

Big Clive

I've worked with the BBC in the past, so I know exactly what their contracts are like. They often include text to cover other planets and civilisations discovered in the future. The BBC is the propaganda channel of a certain section of the UK government.

Big Clive

Post the name of the company that called foul and we will all send our comments to them until they get the idea. Youtubes guidlines: 1. The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for non-profit educational purposes

With the proposed EU legislation where YouTube will be liable for content creator’s copyright infringements this will get worse.

Rav

Y'see you made a mistake - you took the correct action instead of just covering the logo up with the Belgian National flag *coughs*

Please mention the name of said company, so we can avoid accidentally purchasing anything from them until they get half-way educated lawyers.

Al Hunt

The evil side of me sees videos banned from YouTube being shared ... elsewhere. ;)

How is that worthy of a strike? That falls under fair-use afaik

David K

That has to be unbelievably annoying. From what I've seen from others on YouTube it's a buggy automated system with little oversight. They don't even seem to want to acknowledge there is a problem.

Dylan Z. Neill

YouTube are a bunch of cunts.

Times I dont understand the use of the strike system. Its not a DMCA thing (even if it HAS a logo), and pretty sure you've been clear on just about everything its an ebay/china/etc purchase for fun etc, so I can't see how its intentionally defamatory or anything of the sort. And to voluntarily take down when asked... and still get one.... seriously.... what is up with companies... sheesh

William Huckaba

Yes they are because YouTube is owned and run by Google who buy up every company to control everything and collect data on everyone so they can use it for marketing everywhere.

Gadgetman

It's sad that the marketing/"intellectual property" operatives of corporations don't get a second opinion from e.g. one of the company's ENGINEERS before coming out with all guns blazing. A clever Engineer might have come up with the idea of sending Clive a genuine item to compare with the counterfeit.

Bernd Felsche

How about we find out who they are a bomb them with "dont be so petty ( klein zieiig) requests!

Phil Maddox

Fight them.

Michael Thompson

I really have no appropriate response for this post, other than "oh for fuck's sake, really?". Sorry you have to keep dealing with this silly rubbish Clive. Best of the season to you and yours from The Wonderful Land of Oz.

Chris Talbot

Can you ask the Dutch company to withdraw or reverse their complaint?

YouTube should be going out of its way to protect its educators. They make so much noise about being a platform for education.

Is this crap applied automatically without human intervention? If so Google's AI is a loong way from becoming skynet. If not the drones at Google need reeducation.

Wim

All I can do is send Clive my best wishes.

Nuts 'n' Proud

So much for 'free speech' (nazi tube)? Just have to snowpaque the logos out. So now you're obligated to contact them (logo co's) for anything you do? Which is their loss in the end. You're not know till you lift the hood. I tend to buy some of the tutt, you dissect too. Well they're certainly off the Crimbo list and they won't be getting a Crimbo card either!

What a bunch of shite!!! I mean they asked for you to take down the video and in a way you did make it inaccessible, but I bet that because you only made it private vs deleting the video in dispute and so then YouTube just followed through with the disputed claim automatic processing and then because of the claim being automatically processed even though you had already worked to resolve this issue and then the claimant forgot to release/remove the claim and YouTube doesn’t even seem to have any way to check if you have complied with the claims and thus your channel gets slapped with an unwarranted Strike and if you have enough Strikes then it RESTRICTS YOUR ACCESS TO YOUTUBE WHICH IS BULLSHIT!!!!

Zane Revai

It would be neat if youtube fined companies for making false claims, or gave them a 'strike'. I should think that would work super well.

The Backoffice (Andrew Armstrong)

Raised my pledge, Don't let the man get you down.

This is why I'm a patreon supporter and block ads on YouTube

But quite unfortunate to hear. Is this your second or third strike?

Thomas Keppler

Well, it’s the time of giving, isn’t it :P?

Thomas Keppler

Gutted for you - that's complete and utter bollocks. If there's any way you can appeal, please do. This might not even have been reviewed by a human knowing the way YouTube works..

Mike Broom

That's a bit shite! Do you have the opportunity to challenge it further or not?

But how can one be careful in light of such a weak pathetic claim? Literally any of the companies just vaguely featured in a video could try and pull this shite?

I'm wondering whether the problem was your "admitting you were wrong" by pulling the video at their request. I wonder what would have happened if you had brazened it out...

That's crap. I have only done a few videos but I have been careful to black out company names before I start, corporate types get all squirmy as soon as their name gets mentioned outside paid advertising!

The Tinkering Shed

So in essence, what we are all saying is YouTube are a bunch of plonkers

Neil Tonks

Sorry about the strike but it's complete BS. On a positive note though, I really enjoy the content you provide as I'm sure a lot of others do. Thanks Clive.

I have a spare channel in my full name. But YouTube frowns on users having multiple channels. You guys are safe. If I get blocked on YouTube I'll post videos elsewhere and link them here.

Big Clive

Sorry to hear Clive. Hopes be things look up this season nevertheless :)

Ryan G.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA you think youtube cares how anyone feels? Funny.

Ryan G.

It means I have to tread with caution because another strike will block me from posting videos.

Big Clive

It's been filed as a counterfeit claim - as if I've been promoting copied products for sale. I've got a feeling that the "sales director" of the company involved doesn't understand YouTube.

Big Clive

Definitely challenge the strike. That falls well within fair use.

Jamie F

Yes. I'm not sure what gets limited yet.

Big Clive

That's really frustrating, especially as you were showing an actual 'thing', literally a copy with their logo. Normally on trademarks you have to specify all the forms you are registering it against, does this even apply to media in this way?! Grrr

The Backoffice (Andrew Armstrong)

That's really poor! Can you put your videos on Vimeo instead or is there a restriction on having the same content in both places?

Ian Petrie

YouTube is great, but it’s also shit when stuff like this happens. Are you still able to post videos?

I may have missed something. What does it actually mean? Your not allowed to post anything? Your channel is no long there?? HELP!

Neil Tonks

^^ this

Dane

That's a garbage strike and you should contest it. The company that sent the report is abusing the DMCA process, they have no right to request takedowns of videos simply containing an object bearing their logo.

Backup channel?

cvr

Quite honestly, YouTube is turning to shit these days. The good content just vanishes and that completely useless stuff makes the front page and gets shoved down your throat if you want it or not. It's time for a successor.

Im sorry to hear that. Thats terrible that YouTube are treating their creators like this. It's happening to so many creators.

Jamie Cruickshank

What The Fuck... that is just dumb. fucking copy right YouTube bullshit.

Dane

Well that’s a pain.

ColdRFusion