Oh yeah, that's better.....

Our fibre-to-the-cabinet only manages 7.5Mbps up. It's easy to forget how far we've come, downloading a singe track of compressed-to-death mp3 over dial-up using WinMX could take hours - or so I'm told ;-)

Gordo

I don't use a VPN.

Big Clive

12Mbit down 0.6Mbit up.

Big Clive

Your upload speed is still several times my download speed :p

Raven Luni

If you pay for it you can. But. In the UK we have GPON which has a speed of 2.5Gbps down and 1.2Gbps up from the ONT (Optical Network Terminal). The fibre from your premises goes to a node where it is joined by 31 other fibres. The traffic from all 32 fibres is sent to the Head End (exchange). So that is your first point of potential speed loss. And from the Head End it is sent to your ISPs back haul. Now some UK ISPs sell symmetrical speeds but they still use the techniques above and hope for minimal congestion on the upload side. These ISP are using the CityFibre network or have built their own to the premises. Others use BT Openreach which offers a lower upload speed so as to reduce congestion on the upload side. And some network builders also use this technique. Like Sure in the Isle of Man.

Shouldn't fibre allow synchronous speeds? Why are they limiting it to 20M up? That's just pointless..

WooShell

With 4ms you can now beat me in Counterstrike and Valorant. 😂

just_noXi

Rock and rock!

Michael Thompson

My service with FiOS is still 18 weeks out!

My basic service with FiOS is 50x50. For a single user it's plenty and extremely reliable. They're dying to upgrade me to at least 100x100.

From the computer to the converter. :)

Seems indentical to the design sped of Australia's, 100 down and 20 up. Of course ours is a lottery, cable, vdsl, gpon or true fibre. A lot is delivered as gpon then vdsl from the kerb-house. And you pay for the power to run the thing (70watts IIRC)

Anton

You are lucky @martin webster I get 1215kbps down and 325 kbps up.

Nuts 'n' Proud

Clive I am jealous. When I was in the UK I had 80 megs down and 20 megs up on VDSL. Then I could internet DJ. In rural France I get 1215 kilobits down and 325 kilobits up on ADSL. Now I have to DJ connected to the 4G phone via a signal booster on a 10 gigs a month data limited plan for €10 a month. I would repeat an earlier comment to put ethernet around the house and a wifi access point near the stream phone so you have a very high signal to noise ratio and solid connection from the Moto phone to the internet.

Nuts 'n' Proud

Clive what was your old ADSL speeds if it's not private information?

Nuts 'n' Proud

5ms ping to what?

I'm on cable in a semi-rural part of Canada. I upgraded from 30 down/3 up a little over a year ago, primarily for a faster upload speed. 300 down/30 up was pretty good, but then my ISP changed their "300" and faster plans to 100mbps up. It's a joy to use. My friend in Seattle is in a densely populated central neighborhood, but since his building is older, he has the option of 3mbps/512kbps ADSL or Comcast cable. He pays a fortune for his 1.5gbps plan, but he still only gets 30mbps up!

My BT FTTC service is rated at 80 down and 20 up, in practice at my PC I get 75 down and 18 up.

What's the speed you are getting from Manx Telecom/3 moble networks?

NightshadeLenar

Nice so BC in 4K soon!. We could see every tiny surface mount chips over your shoulder.

DC Allan

It's still pretty common in Canada for fiber-to-the-home to be hugely asymetrical, for no very good technical reason. Until recently, my DL/UL ratio was about 8:1, although it's recently improved to 2:1. Glad you got your problems solved, BC!

Charles

Wow. Speeds we can only dream of here; 17 down and 1 up!

In the US most people have similarly slow upload rates because they're on DOCSIS (cable internet) which is generally asymmetric. But those of us on fiber-to-the-home systems usually have symmetric (or nearly symmetric) connections, e.g., 200/200, ,400/400, 500/500 or 940/880. (The latter is usually advertised as gigabit in both directions, but there's always an asterisk and fine print involved.) I use Frontier fiber, which offers 500/500 and 940/860 in my area. I chose the former (at $56.95/month) as it's more than adequate for my needs.

tim1724

as ex-helpdesk for an ISP I can vouch that new ISP supplied routers that are supposed to be pre-configured often need a factory reset to work properly after being installed.

Anita Davis

It usually does work. For many things.

Big Clive

The "Turn it off and on again thing". As an IT guy just do it the worst that can happen is that it will still be broken.

chris

Hopefully!

Big Clive

Here in Australia, the price for download speed goes up quite slowly, but upload gets expensive quickly. Eg 1000/50 is cheaper than 250/100.

Steve Lemon

100Mbit, so the download speed is good. It appears that the upload speed is 20% of the download speed by default.

Big Clive

Clive - what's the rated speed of your contract?

Ryan Coleman

Looking forward to the Saturday stream without potatoes!

Tony Weavers

I pay for the lowest speed fiber connection available here on Prince Edward Island, I get 100 down and 80ish upload speeds. The cost is about $120.oo a month.

If nothing else, at least you got to enjoy the view ... of the installer !

TopEndSpoonie

I started out with Demon in the 90's. If you use your computer for browsing the Internet a lot then consider a Chromebook. It does a full system update in less time than it takes Windows to look for updates.

Big Clive

There's probably a high flying business option. But I'm happy with each speed step.

Big Clive

Island, infrastructure, monopoly, rationing. It's a lot better than it used to be. In the early days you could use your entire ADSL upload allowance with a single high definition upload.

Big Clive

This is the 100Mbit fibre option, since I'm just testing the waters. Ultimately it all goes via MT's system. Your results suggest that you do get a ratio of 1 in 5 on upload/download.

Big Clive

That upload is rather generous for 100 down, I have 200 down and only get 20 up. It's capped at the supplier end, of course.

Matt Tester

1200/75 card modem that I used in the UK connect from Cardiff to a London phone number for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompuServe Before I changed in 1992 to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_Internet Back then I was in charge of my PC and now it is in charge of me, pesky updates etc.

John Harrison

I see that as sad numbers if it is fiber. It shouldn't really be asymetric if it is full fiber. My fiber is doing 940/941 Mbps for download and upload.

I clicked "factory settings", but my router has yet to start any manufacturing processes!

Jeremy

Now welcoming big Clive in 3d in your living room ..now he’s back in the room

Steve Nuttall

300 down and 50 up here on fibre. 15- 20% upload as a proportion of your download speed is fairly standard.

Much More Better.

Mike Page

Only 20 up? Don’t they know Isle of Mans biggest YouTuber needs symmetrical.

Elliott Krimchansky

INCREDIBLE LASERS! 😄

devttyUSB0

Wow... If that's fiber, then what were your speeds before? I'm almost afraid to ask...

David K

I am on the 200 meg fibre with Manx Telecom and the speed test is showing 171/38 over Wi-Fi so don’t suppose I can complain too much. Come over to the dark side (MT) Big Clive.

Is that with or without VPN turned on? Are your results almost the same regardless?

Andrew Donaldson

Actually doing pretty well for ‘speeds up to 100 Mb/s’. They don’t mention upload speeds anywhere I can see, so pretty much whatever they want. Don’t know if more expensive packages would make any difference.

Mark Gray

Miles better. Glad to see it's perked up Clive 👍

Rupert Kent

Thank every pint I have drunk... 28 down / 9 up on Hospital Wifi in Germany (all is well!) Tada! No way I can miss the stream tomorrow!

Spook´s Wood

Those are very nice numbers. The low ping is also you'll notice. Page loading will be nice and responsive.

Bas

More than the speed, what is really important is the latency, that ping time is very good!

elias

At least it is better than it was....Awesome....

Those numbers almost make me think they're limiting it so it's not that much better than FTTC.

Simeon

Same here....even higher....amd symmetrical...(SDSL)

I have 50 with good old copper cables 🤓

Dominik Mueller

Thats ruffly double what I have .. download: 45.4, upload 7.67 ... it's not fiber, though locally gigabit fiber is available.

Peter Stevens

Just 100/20 with fibre optic? I have 250/50 with these old phone line copper cables here in germany 🤔

Dominik Mueller

Should be, but some ISPs still try to call symmetrical service 'business service', and asym is 'residential'. As someone in the backbone industry, we all know fiber is fiber, and its symmetrical. This is just how they try to extract more money from people.

Reid Fishler

Fibre should be symmetrical. I'd say they need to clean their fibres

Is that the same company that claims it's deodorant lasts for 3days? I've tested that and it it's a big fib 💦💦

Mark Holder

Nice. And yeah, 20mb up is a useful speed. Certainly beats the 2mb or so on ADSL.

Steven Raith

They're always a bit stingy on the upload so, yeah, 20 up is actually pretty good especially compared to your download speed.

nowt

Woohoo great news. Surprise live blog to test then? Hehe

20mbit up is plenty!

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