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Inside a paper RFID train ticket

This paper ticket took me by surprise.  I was used to the magnetic strip version, and after realising there wasn't a ticket-slot any more I tentatively held it to the contactless reader pad and the barrier opened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm4CSrH8WTU

I added a link to the Glasgow Subway train's Wikipedia page in the video description if you want to explore its long history.

Something that doesn't seem to get mentioned is that it has had the capability of operating without a driver for decades.  But always has a driver for safety due to the risk of drunks going into the tunnels.

Inside a paper RFID train ticket

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Comprehensive series on the Glasgow Subway from the initial planning and construction until today (no mention of RFID tickets, sadly). https://youtu.be/1aYoOCO97P4 https://youtu.be/E2wY5uMBgSI https://youtu.be/I_YHweyafPs

Peter Laws

Watching it again now that it's public. I knew, vaguely, of the "clockwork orange" because of it supposedly lending its name to a movie that I haven't seen. Interesting to hear that it was, essentially, the equivalent of the cable-cars of San Francisco but in a tunnel (and I guess a train of cars even back then?). Sounds similar with a "grip man" manning the grip ... There were many cable-car companies in the USA with the biggest array of them in Chicago. Mostly ended with the development of electric cars in the later 1880s. LOTS of lawsuits over patented grips. Off to find more information, especially regarding cable-drawn days.

Peter Laws

True! I guess they're referring to the 'old school' way of using two power lines and a data line; therefore reducing the wire count by 'one' and ignoring 'ground' gave them inspiration for that name.

Stephen Eyles

I can recall when the Dallas 1-wire devices appeared. I thought it was quite misleading to call them one-wire devices when in reality two connections are needed. But they show up a lot in point-of-sale systems here to identify the user via their fob.

Big Clive

Hi Clive, fascinating video (as always!). I admire this RFID stuff; it's amazing what electronics can do and in such a short time. Have you considered doing a video about Dallas Semiconductors 'One Wire' devices which I think are very interesting and were used in Istanbul as transport tickets a few years ago. Links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Wire, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akbil_(smart_ticket)

Stephen Eyles

In San Francisco the Muni has an app for your Phone so you Don't need to have a paper ticket , but paper ticket are still available . The under ground part of our system uses cars made by Breda . The cars are computer controlled the driver is there for backup and does control the cars above ground on the streets

richard ockman

Valid, No ID, SPT Subway, expiry date 18/07/2017.

Big Clive

The London underground is the oldest in the world. It dates back to a time of smaller people. I love it.

Big Clive

I just tried it. Not much data, but did show the journeys and expiry dates. Even on the stripped back card.

Big Clive

It's strangely fascinating looking at other countries transport systems. Partly due to the people-watching aspect.

Big Clive

Big Clive. Love this little video. I actually thought, as I was getting ready to watch, that you were going to get an RFID reader, read what was on the ticket and show it. I'm curious as to what is on it. More just to see it.

Have never been on the Glasgow trains but I always heard so much about the London Underground. Where l live we don’t have a subway but I have been to San Francisco, New York, DC and a few subways in Japan. I wasn’t impressed by London’s system. I know it has to do with the tunnel systems age but I thought the cars were really cramped compared to the US counterparts.

Lostngone

Thanks Big Clive. I wish transportation like you have was something universal.

Dave Frederick

I visited Russia back in 2012, the Moscow subway also had RFID tickets. I will try to find it and get you some pictures if you like.

Jeff Whitney

hmmm another one to get the proxmark out for ... next time I'm up I'll have a play

Rik Kershaw-Moore

On the "is it read only or writable", on the back, there's an ITSO symbol which is the UK national standard for ticketing for all public transport, and that mandates writing some info back to the card every time you use it like journey history or ticket use. You can actually scan it with your phone too using an app (if you search for Ecebs Smart Ticket Checker, that one provides a lot of the details, including journey history).

Nanashi Mitame

I've too many other interests and am too lazy to be a 'rail fan', but I've now watched an hour of YouTube videos on the Glasgow subway. (Make that two)

Marsha Jackson

San Francisco's Muni light rail system sells that kind of ticket in the underground stations. I always felt weird about disposable things having electronics in them. The last time I looked, Muni said that the tickets are not recyclable.

Michael Dunn


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