Daredevil: Shadows in the Glass [1x08] ✦ Full-Length Watchalong Reaction & Review
Added 2024-03-22 23:01:01 +0000 UTC
This is my favourite episode of the show so far! I'm still digging the vibes of this show a lot. The serious, the drama, the dark. It'd be crazy to picture all of Marvel in this format, as I do enjoy a lot of the humour we've seen in the MCU, but also in Agent Carter and Agents of SHIELD but... this show feels SO grounded and like the audience for this show can be anyone. What I mean by that is if this had been the very first Marvel thing that I would have watched, I wouldn't have been confused or bored or felt like I would have needed to get greater understanding from watching other things and knowing other characters. I love that this show feels like "just another drama show" but with that sprinkle of comic book spice, you know? [Direct link here.]
Can't wait to continue and can't wait to talk about it! As always, thank you for watching with me.
Cheers,
✦ KL
Definitely agree with all of this!
kaiielle
2024-04-04 17:17:38 +0000 UTC
Vanessa stayed over, I can’t say I blame her 😁
Fisk is a monster, not by nature, but certainly by choices, and who doesn’t love a complicated monster.
When I watched this season the first time, I was surprised at how much I liked and enjoyed Wesley as a character.
I wouldn’t normally pay much attention to a character like him, especially with Big Vinnie D being such a presence, but Toby Leonard Moore is able to still make an impression and leave me wondering about his character, and history.
Particularly in this episode, he seems so real and human.
I really enjoy the relationship between Wesley and Fisk.
The fact that Wesley understands how to handle Fisk’s rage. He almost takes on a motherly role for Fisk.
Being there thru his fits of rage. Cleaning up after. Making things all better. Bringing him something or someone sweet to help calm him.
His mother gave him cake, kind words, & understanding.
Wesley didn’t back down from Fisk when he saw he was hurting and needed something he couldn’t give him, but that Vanessa could.
Toby Leonard Moore does an excellent job of elevating Wesley from what could be a very generic type of role to a fleshed out character, even if we don’t know a lot about his past etc.
He humanizes him in an unexpected way and is able to keep the character intriguing to me. It is always refreshing when supporting characters have just as much depth as the leads.
CheshireKat528
2024-04-04 15:19:36 +0000 UTC
Yes, the way they've written Fisk is so good! Definitely a top Marvel villain for me, if not #1 already to be honest.
kaiielle
2024-03-24 22:25:47 +0000 UTC
This show is so much better than I could have expected. The way they humanize Fisk in a way I didn't see coming is so interesting. He's such a smart and charismatic guy, and with that and his backstory, it almost feels weird to call him a bad guy, even though he obviously very much is. I can't believe I never watched this show to this point.
BratPfanneTV
2024-03-24 17:44:42 +0000 UTC
Totally!
kaiielle
2024-03-23 20:51:04 +0000 UTC
All the backstory about Fisk's parents does serve to humanise him, and make him more sympathetic. However, whilst he says he's not like his father (and may even believe it), he's not as different as he might think. Everything about his apartment, and the interactions with others that we've seen (especially with Gao in this episode) shows a deep seeded control streak - he prepares the same breakfast everyday, chooses (essentially) the same clothes everyday (even though he does have other choices), and isn't able to control himself when that control he exerts is threatened.
The interesting part is Vanessa, as she's clearly having a big effect on him - Gao calls out that he's becoming emotional, which he obviously wasn't before (at least outwardly), and now the implication is that she is the one who pushes him to reveal himself to the world.
Sean Ellingham
2024-03-23 20:37:27 +0000 UTC
Completely agreed!
kaiielle
2024-03-23 14:41:37 +0000 UTC
I do sway a lot! I have a hard time being completely still when I'm sitting upright in a chair, always been that way.
I'll put out episodes 11-13 in the same week - the week after next.
kaiielle
2024-03-23 14:41:13 +0000 UTC
That was funny when Foggy referred to Karen as “K” and you added “L”. I chuckled. It was interesting watching you kind of tense up during this episode. You do a lot of swaying when you’re watching shows, but here you were still, fingernail in your mouth during Madame Gao and Kingpin’s conversation. I liked how we got the flashbacks to see his defining childhood moments and at the same time are witnessing a major defining moment in his adulthood. Previously, I watched this over 3 days after it dropped on Netflix. The next viewing I watched an episode a day. This time following along with you, 2 episodes a week, plus your reactions and questions are really just emphasizing how much I enjoy this show and I appreciate the pace where I’m really absorbing the characters and the unfolding story. Looking forward to next week’s batch. And how are you going to handle the odd numbered season? Will episodes 11-13 come out in one weekend or will episode 13 arrive alone?
Bryan Dempsey
2024-03-23 14:33:10 +0000 UTC
Maybe you'd be able to tell me if I'm misremembering, but I seem to recall when Fisk was looking at the painting when it was in the gallery, Vanessa was talking about art being what it makes you feel. She asks him what that painting makes him feel and he says "lonely" or "alone", some variation of that. And it makes one wonder, why would anyone want a painting that makes them feel lonely? And this episode makes it all make sense. Why he wanted that painting, why he wears his father's cufflinks... such a brilliant episode. Fisk has to be one of the most sympathetic villains out there. Right up there with DC's Mr Freeze.
Nathan Jasper, the Artist Formerly Known as Primary
2024-03-23 09:27:32 +0000 UTC
Yeah, they're doing it very well! And yes, two episodes next week and then the final three in the following week.
kaiielle
2024-03-23 03:11:05 +0000 UTC
Thanks for the reminder about Rigoletto and the other info as well! I agree, the parallels and similarities are fantastic.
kaiielle
2024-03-23 03:10:07 +0000 UTC
The first thing that came to my mind when Fisk's dad let Wilson have his first drink in the flashback was Matt actually having his first drink and the parallels between those 2 scenes. Matt's father basically tells him to just have a little bit while Fisk's father tells him to take a big sip and then laughs about it. I thought the way they showed the uprising of the main hero and villain and showing the parallels of similar things these 2 people go through in life and the way it went was amazing. Like Matt lost his father at a young age, similar to Fisk. Matt in the last episode told Stick that he blamed himself for his father's death while Fisk actually killed his father.
Loved the attention to detail in the Fisk flashback scenes like in the earlier flashback before the abusive scene, you could see the bruises on Wilson's mother's arms. Saw that and immediately realized Fisk's dad was abusive. Also when Fisk's mother said "Get the saw".. that line read was chilling.
My favorite part about sharing Matt and Fisk's backstory is that it ties both of them to Hell's Kitchen like they're inheritors of the city and they both use the same phrase to justify why they do what they do.
Loved that they leaned into the darkness and gore and I just wish more MCU shows did that. Obviously some of them don't need it but some shows could be better if it had a darker tone to it.
Also did wanna mention that the name Rigoletto was mentioned in the first episode in a conversation when we first meet Ben and another man who was his contact in the mafia and they mentioned how Rigoletto "Retired in pieces" and Wesley in the same episode when blackmailing the prision guard told the guard how his employer took over Rigoletto's books. So Fisk did take over the mafia from Rigoletto (the same guy Fisk's father took a loan from when Fisk was just a kid). That shows the growth of how far Fisk has come.
Waamiq Ali
2024-03-23 03:08:03 +0000 UTC
If you didn't realize by now the show is really doing a good job at making it seem like fisk is the hero of the story. Normally you don't get a villain get a love interest and normally it is the hero that gets a girl that makes things better for the hero while he tries to make the world a better place. Here the situation is reversed. The devil is the bad guy blowing up bombs and being sneaking, attacking cops. Fisk even gets a backstory where he saves his mom from the bad guy. This is the reason I can't get behind 6 episode shows. This type of character work for a villain is needed to make an amazing story. Make the villain interesting by going deeper into their psyche like the painting for example. do you think you will do three ep in a week for finale?
Christopher simeon
2024-03-23 02:34:12 +0000 UTC