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Daredevil: Seven Minutes in Heaven [2x09] β¦ Full-Length Watchalong Reaction & Review
Added 2024-09-21 03:30:01 +0000 UTCOh boy oh boy oh boyyyyyyy. πππππ [Direct link here.]
Looking forward to your comments and thoughts. See you tomorrow for Episode 10!
β¦ KL
Comments
Agreed on everything! π
kaiielle
2024-09-23 00:54:52 +0000 UTCAs far as I'm concerned, anyone who can survive JUST the combat diver training is a different breed of human...part of the training is drownproofing...they literally tie your hands and feet and throw you in a pool...it's up to you to stay calm enough because you know that IF you drown (it happens...some guys drown more than once during the course) one of the instructors will haul you out and get you breathing again...until you learn how to manage it without needing rescue.
Rat MacKay
2024-09-23 00:32:04 +0000 UTCAhem! someones intial thoughts of 7 minutes of heaven was um interesting, I wont mentiion any name :P I first thought it meant maybe someone died for 7 minutes then came back too life. I guess Matt will be full DD till him and Foggy figure something out, if they do, seems Karen found her niche with the paper. Maybe Foggy with run a butcher shop his mom wants lol who knows. The new King Pin taking over working all the angles like he does the best doesn't take him long to figure things out and how to work bot sides of the jail, prisoner and guards. Now he set Frank free to finish the job to make it easy for him to return, just brilliant. The ninja blood bomb farm reminds me of blade, not sure what going on there still, I think that was Nobu the guy Fisk had Matt blow up with the fire bomb, sorry if I spelled his name wrong lol. "ooh 7 minutes in heaven" lol
Chris Elkins
2024-09-23 00:07:17 +0000 UTCYeah, that stuff goes completely over my head. π
kaiielle
2024-09-22 22:16:13 +0000 UTCI do remember her asking him if he thinks it's the first time she's ever shot someone before, but I don't have any solid theories about her background, even with this added knowledge of the newspaper clipping SOOOO I'm just gonna ride this out and wait and see what we get!
kaiielle
2024-09-22 01:49:12 +0000 UTCThis is probably one of those situations where my knowledge of USMC stuff makes a thing seem more obvious to me. At the beginning of the season,, Frank opts for a more severe high and tight haircut vs. the more common fade (especially for guys who are no longer active duty...and also for a Lt.)...which still meets grooming standards. That tells me at a glance that he's likely recon...which tells me before he got that scout sniper designation, he had already completed boot, infantry school, recon assessment, recon training, airborne, combat diver, and SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape...basically how to evade capture, resist enhanced interrogation, escape captivity, and survive without supplies in a hostile environment until you can get recovered by your country's forces) training... (combined with scout sniper school, that's over a year and a half of JUST training!) which makes prison seem more or less like a walk in the park...so the idea that he would feel pressured to make an alliance with a guy like Fisk to survive is unfathomable to me. My bad...I forget these things are not common knowledge...my dad drilled that stuff into my head for so many years that it's just THERE for no reason now, lol.
Rat MacKay
2024-09-22 00:36:04 +0000 UTCI never noticed it the first time I watched it, but it looks like there's a very subtle Punisher skull visible in the blood on Frank's prison outfit at the end of the hallway fight. Neat. Also if you go back to the conversation between Karen and Wesley before she killed him, she dropped some big-ish hints about her background (along with a few other breadcrumbs through the first season). That's why she was worried about whether or Ellison had read it and why he reassured her that he and Ben didn't care what it said. So it wasn't so much FOR her as it was Ben being Ben and wanting to know everything. And finally, the ninja at the end was Nobu from the first season, hence the burned neck, scars reference, etc etc.
Phalanx
2024-09-22 00:26:45 +0000 UTC"It was earlier this season when she mentioned her brother...while helping Matt tie his tie for Grotto's funeral, I believe...but that seems like SO LONG AGO because so much has happened this season." - Thank you for the reminder! It does feel like so long ago LOL. Hey listen, my mindset on that was that Frank was in JAIL now. I feel like a lot of us would go against our own character if we found ourselves in a situation that we REALLY didn't want to be in. So yeah I was fully expecting that Frank could do something he normally wouldn't do to be able to get out.
kaiielle
2024-09-21 15:16:24 +0000 UTCNot sure, but so stoked for more!
kaiielle
2024-09-21 15:13:46 +0000 UTCFisk is very good at his calculating. Matt is entering his loner era. Karen is in her Lois Lane era. Yes, vegetative state sounds accurate. Those actors (and the makeup artists) did a fantastic job at looking basically next-door neighbours to dead.
kaiielle
2024-09-21 15:13:36 +0000 UTCI find it crazy that Nobu is back, I can't believe that I forgot to talk about it in the review. π Agreed on your last point.
kaiielle
2024-09-21 15:11:32 +0000 UTCI forgot to do the math on that myself - I meant to do it after the episode was finished but I was too focused on Karen and that newspaper clipping.
kaiielle
2024-09-21 15:10:52 +0000 UTCIt was very well done!
kaiielle
2024-09-21 15:10:36 +0000 UTCEnjoy when you do!
kaiielle
2024-09-21 15:10:28 +0000 UTCMatt's separation always reminds me of Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins when he acts drunk at his Birthday party to get the guests out and safe away from Ra's.
Carl Johnson
2024-09-21 14:30:54 +0000 UTCThere were two clear instances in the fight where Nobu hit/kicked Matt and instead of the typical go back a few feet and fall, Matt flew back 5-6 feet and hit a wall hard. It looks like the fight choreography was much different in terms of his strength than their original encounter.
Carl Johnson
2024-09-21 14:26:10 +0000 UTCI mean...to be fair to Matt (I know, I'm shocked, too) he did take a poisoned arrow like 24 hours earlier (and we saw how that poison knocked Elektra on her ass)...so, he wasn't exactly in proper shape to take on Nobu, especially after fighting his way in...not sure how much of that was Nobu being extra strong and how much was Matt not being 100%.
Rat MacKay
2024-09-21 12:39:31 +0000 UTCThe scene with Karen and Foggy...the whole thing was great, but what always stands out most to me is that Karen doesn't hold any animosity toward Foggy for not telling her about Matt/Elektra. For someone who has been hurt like that to say basically "I don't expect you to violate the trust of your friend for me even though we're friends" is big. It speaks to her character and what friendship means to her. It was earlier this season when she mentioned her brother...while helping Matt tie his tie for Grotto's funeral, I believe...but that seems like SO LONG AGO because so much has happened this season. I do love me some Ellison and that he essentially is taking her under his wing...because Ben did...and because Karen has proved herself. Frank. GAH. That corridor fight is everythiiiiing. That's pure Marine Corps hyperaggression. Like Dan Daly leading his men on the field at Belleau Wood "Come on, you sons of bitches; do you wanna live forever?" Odds stacked against him and it's just shrug and run face first at the danger...because being afraid of it isn't going to make it go away and, ya might die, but you can take some of them with ya. Then, in the wake of that, to go toe to toe with Fisk. Let's not forget when Matt went against Fisk, he had the protection of his suit and had not just come from a brawl to the death with umpteen guys and taken smoke to the face and a beatdown from guards with clubs...and Matt barely managed to make Fisk bleed. That scene with Matt and Fisk always reminds me now of the scene in Infinity War on Titan when Tony, Spidey, The Guardians, and Strange all are fighting like he'll against Thanos and he says "all that for a drop of blood." Meanwhile Frank gets him bloody and rocked him for a second...and took a silverback gorilla pounding from Fisk and gets to walk away. I can't believe that it seemed like you thought Frank was gonna actually team up with Fisk there at the start...that goes against Frank's character so much. The "shitbag, has-been mob bosses" line always slays me. Fisk underestimated Frank on multiple levels...but ultimately got what he wanted anyway (because Frank would rip out his own toenails if it got him info about his family's killers.)
Rat MacKay
2024-09-21 12:35:14 +0000 UTCThe return of Nobu, I forgot that was in this episode. Question, how? And how is he stronger? Just kicking and tossing Matt around so easily.
Carl Johnson
2024-09-21 04:52:42 +0000 UTCIt's both satisfying and saddening to see everything Kingpin built being reduced to items in a box. That pause he had to take when the guard knocked him on the head...oohhhh he wanted to punch that guard so bad but held it. He's a chess master, after all. He has rage but he knows when to use that rage. Can't help but feel bad for the man, looking around the prison cafeteria like he's the only human on an alien world. I do love that he started gaining a following by doing real-world favors for people's families. Loyalty CAN be bought. As far as the question of killing, it depends on the person. Everyone has a fight or flight response and the adrenaline just enhances it. So if you're a runner, you run like a dog on Park Day. If you're a fighter, you do whatever you have to to survive. If you're a deer-in-headlights, hope it's quick. Okay, Matt, that's a little shitty. I get it, it's a self-defense technique, but just flat-out cutting out your friends is not a good move. Not to mention not even bothering showing an ounce of push-back or fighting for their friendship is just going to make Foggy and Karen feel like he never gave a damn in the first place. I'm really kinda loving that Karen Page is essentially the Lois Lane of at least the New York Bulletin. She's really good at this reporting and investigating thing! Ohhh here we go! The Punisher prison fight, one of the many highlights of the season. Can't help but wonder who would win, Punisher or John Wick? It would be a great albeit brutal fight! Karen getting Ben's office is such beautiful karmic symmetry. That's some big shoes to fill and Karen's the best one to fill them. Kingpin's finishing move...trying to think of a better term than Pound Town... is terrifying. Someone as huge as him bringing the full force of his rage down... *shudders* I do kind of love how their fight was a brief interlude and they're just like "so anyway where were we" LOL *cue music* There's a hole, there's a hole, there's a hole in the bottom of the sewer So, if you're a human blood bag... I assume at some point you lose so much blood and nutrients that you basically just go into a vegetative state. Certainly looked like the woman down there was unresponsive and catatonic. Would you even feel pain at that point? Would so much of your sensories just be so far gone that you become unaware? So brutal how Kingpin was basically getting the last laugh, eating a meal in front of Dutton as he slowly dies of fluid in the lungs.
Nathan Jasper, the Artist Formerly Known as Primary
2024-09-21 04:52:03 +0000 UTCMatt splits with both parts of his life. Nelson and Murdock and Electra. Right now he is not in a good place to be around anyone but this episode shows us that what he does is needed. Those people were being drained and Nobu (the main ninja from last season who Matt set on fire) has returned. Stick was right they are messing with death. Punisher shows us that he doesn't need a gun to do serious damage. Like always the show parallels kingpin and Matt. He learns from mistakes and admits it openly while Matt doubles down and avoids his mistakes this season.
Christopher simeon
2024-09-21 04:51:43 +0000 UTCFYI, Fisk was benching 495lbs. A very hefty load, but not unimaginable.
Carl Johnson
2024-09-21 04:41:41 +0000 UTCSuch a great hallway fight scene. The Punisher logo on Frank's chest made by the dead guy's head is the chef's kiss to that scene. They teased it in earlier episodes with the x-ray of Frank's skull but here it's just magnificent. So so good.
Carl Johnson
2024-09-21 04:40:00 +0000 UTCOh, I've been waiting for this. Busy now, but... I will, I have to, watch this before I fall asleep tonite. I cannot wait.
Richard Flores
2024-09-21 03:57:56 +0000 UTC
