Attack on Titan S3x16 Full & Uncut Reaction!!
Added 2022-06-11 22:37:30 +0000 UTCHey hey Patrons!
We're back with flat-out, one of if not the most arresting moment in this entire show!
Erwin's rousing speech has got US ready to ride into war!
Gonna keep this post brief as I'm still pretty fatigued from CoVid!
And also one SCHEDULE/COVID UPDATE:
Our lovely Editor Abe, who keeps our Attack on Titan content rolling with the consistency that it does, ALSO done caught the 'Rona. We'll need to hold off on our typical Tuesday drop, HOWEVER we will have something quite STRANGE and exciting to hold you over on Tuesday! We'll be back this coming Friday and on schedule!
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Comments
Oh no, hope you get well soon Abe!! ❤
Sky Sirak
2022-06-22 20:24:28 +0000 UTCJust for your persobnal experience, Erwin's final speech in the English Dub is AMAZING. Some of the best voice acting I've ever heard, honestly!
Samuel
2022-06-13 15:17:53 +0000 UTCArya in general post-S4 was such a letdown. Nothing she did felt earned. I still can't believe a small girl with haphazard training from several different people, much of it being assassination stuff and not actual combat, could go toe to toe with Brienne of fucking Tarth. The lady who went took down people like Loras Tyrell and Sandor Clegane. The only way a smaller fighter can beat a bigger and stronger is if they are much more skilled and/or experienced, like with Oberyn vs Gregor. And even then it is not always assured. Brienne was easily more skilled and experienced than Arya in actual fighting. And while they tried to make her seem like a lumbering oaf Brienne was also very fast as well as strong.
Adam Vialpando
2022-06-13 00:49:21 +0000 UTCThe whole sequence of Arya in Braavos made me lol. Howd she survive all that?
Michelle
2022-06-13 00:37:48 +0000 UTCHonestly major deaths don't happen as often in GoT as people think. More deaths happen overall but GoT has much more characters than AoT. And even then the deaths have more meaning in AoT. A few GoT deaths stand out. Baelor, Rains of Castamere, Mountain and the Viper. But most GoT deaths don't seemnto have a purpose except to make death seem like a threat. And even then it doesn't always succeed. Jon had 3 arrows put into him and didn't die. Sure they might not have been meant to kill but I still call bullshit on that. And you don't have characters literally die and come back to life in AoT. Deaths in AoT feel much more visceral and brutal too.
Adam Vialpando
2022-06-13 00:15:14 +0000 UTCHi! Inquiring again about the uncut GOT reactions. Were you ever able to post them ? I know you said you guys were working reposting them. It’s been about a month and a half so I was wondering if you had an update.
Cam
2022-06-12 17:39:03 +0000 UTCIf you want something that can maybe live up to The Red Wedding, I would recommend checking out Berserk.
ChipHand_Z
2022-06-12 15:30:24 +0000 UTCI think there are 2 issues with the GoT comparison: 1) death in GoT originally meant something else, esp. season 1-4 partly adapted the trend from the books in which the death of a main character lead to the upgrade of side characters & moved the plot forward. However GoT transformed into violence galore & plot armor, leaving with too many main characters in the same scenes with only 2-3 talking. I think it's the violence galore that lead to the comparison, of which there are many more, older than AoT. 2) Similar to 1st half of GoT, AoT manages to deepen the characters that aren't the main cast, & each of them are different. So if a viewer happens to identify with all the dead characters, I can see where the comparison's coming from. Overall I think it's mainly the political intrigue aspect, which I personally call "the littlefingering" xD
Dancing Viru
2022-06-12 14:54:43 +0000 UTCAoT unquestionably has better writing than GoT. GoT is 90% intrigue. AoT has intrigue, but is orders of magnitude stronger thematically and philosophically.
Mr. Toastman
2022-06-12 13:51:42 +0000 UTCThis episode is goddamn incredible, and Erwin's speech is one of the most rousing ones in tv history imo. I also keep seeing people bring up the "AoT is like the GoT of anime", but I've never liked that comparison. They are completely different shows, and they handle character deaths way differently. Not to mention, I think AoT has, in general, better writing than GoT (maybe aside from seasons 3-5, which were pretty good). God, I can't wait to see everyone's reactions to the basement stuff, it's always such a "woah wtf" revelation type moment. Hope everyone's well soon!
Aidan Pullen
2022-06-12 07:04:14 +0000 UTCFeel better soon, Editor-sama Abe!
Sickleweed
2022-06-12 05:45:56 +0000 UTCAlso and yeah they did drop the ball on the ending and I think AoT has a better one.
Ci-Ci
2022-06-12 04:17:25 +0000 UTCOh 100% Michelle! I think AoT's overarching messages on humanity, war, slavery, genocide, generational hatred, and race are much more nuanced and hit the mark more meaningfully for me. I'm thinking about the the entirety of both stories (start to finish) and AoT's messages and over arching story hit me much harder. I was just commenting on the discourse on comparing and of "well GoT kills more mains versus AoT...". Other than being set in a fantasy world, and being brutal, they are not very similar shows in my opinion. I don't think they are trying to do the same thing. I think GoT is very much high fantasy that wants us to care about that world and how the characters and events of the story effects them. But not really look outside that great fantasy world. AoT has the fantasy but I think it is very much trying and succeeding on commenting on our own world with its story and messages.
Ci-Ci
2022-06-12 04:14:50 +0000 UTCpersonally i just feel like AoT's message goes a lot deeper that GoT, I mean GoT even kind of undermines itself, cause a huge theme of it was that our narrow minded and selfish problems made us forget about the larger problems that should unify us. Thats what the white walkers were supposed to represent, and winter and so on. And then they just, fix it i guess? And now the real issue is who's gonna sit on the iron throne? The one the narrative has been telling us is not that important in the grand scheme of things? Oh and then Dany becomes like a fascist in one episode and then dies. I'm simplifying it but they dropped the ball hard...
Michelle
2022-06-12 04:04:16 +0000 UTCHope everyone is feeling better soon! And I can’t wait to see your reactions to the next round of eps! Side note on the whole AOT VS GOT thing, idk I just personally don’t think we even need to compare them. AOT is brutal, existential, and despair filled in its own unique way. AOT has a lot to say on society in regards to war, race, hatred, genocide etc. it does kill characters we love- especially by season 4 and kills many side characters in the lead up. Does it practically wipe out its whole cast every season ? No, and it doesn’t have to. A lot of AOT’s horror is bloody but also focused on the existential pain, and suffering of its characters and the agony of the human condition. It doesn’t need to be GOT, because GOT is GOT. I love the show for its own brand of horror and despair 😅. Both shows are trying to show and create a completely different message and world.
Ci-Ci
2022-06-12 02:38:49 +0000 UTCin another translation its supposed to be something like "the eaves on eren's house are dropping"??? like eavesdropping “Eren’s house is eavesdropping” said it too many times its no longer a word now XD this is helpful https://aot-snk-4238.tumblr.com/post/185002566462/jaegerbroshoe-wtf-the-subs-translated-connies Edit: Just went back to the video cuz i vaguely remembered what connie said but yeah its like whoever translated this was trying to make a tongue twister: He's airing out Eren's house. Which is just so stupid u can't help but laugh the longer u try and think about it
Brimmy
2022-06-12 02:37:01 +0000 UTCI agree. With the manga ending for AoT, I am truly just satisfied in the conclusion. Heartbroken with a few things, but satisfied. I had so many questions on the other hand for GoT. The nightwalkers and the night kings origins. As well as so many character arcs just leaving me dumbfounded on how poorly executed. But GoT still holds a place in my heart for how iconic it was!
amberrr
2022-06-12 01:25:10 +0000 UTCyoure very right Amber! i think it downplays how good AoT actually is lol. AoT setup EVERYTHING literally from the beginning and it all paid off in an excellent and cathartic way. GoT started incredibly but by the later seasons started stumbling and then just completely fumbled it and let almost everyone diasspointed. AoT is a lot better in that aspect.
Michelle
2022-06-12 01:14:47 +0000 UTCCan't wait for next episode
Amit
2022-06-12 01:08:13 +0000 UTCI totally agree with you Sean. And imo, I don't like how people say it's the GoT of anime. Because while GoT did incredible things, AOT just is on a different level for me. AoT has great worldbuilding, lore, and etc that they did not put to waste. And by S4 you just don't know who to root for anymore! Basically setting up this story from the beginning. "To you 3000 years ago." And turning our main character into the antagonist. Just so many great thing with AoT that i feel like a lot of people downplay. Hopefully GoT can be reawakened with new Targaryen TV show :)
amberrr
2022-06-12 01:02:43 +0000 UTCThis part of season 3 is as close to the Red Wedding as AoT ever gets, but I agree it's not comparable. No show/scene I've watched since can live up to it. That being said, I'm chomping at the bit to see yall's reaction to the Armin death scene and Levi's Sophie's choice -- especially Dustin who's already introduced the "Armin vs Erwin" debate. Hope you and Abe get better soon!
Tope
2022-06-12 00:39:30 +0000 UTCThank you Tim!!!
Sean TankTop
2022-06-12 00:07:43 +0000 UTCNo I get you. Honestly if you want "anime Game of Thrones" as in, characters die earlier that they should and no one is safe, watch Death Note. Now that is an anime where no one is truly safe and death is literally right around the corner for everyone, main characters included. At the end of the day AoT is a shonen so the main characters will get away with a lot of bs until the story finds a satysfing way for them to die.
Michelle
2022-06-11 23:50:37 +0000 UTCDude, the turn around people have on Zeke and Reiner. The character writing is just phenomenal.
Faeginn
2022-06-11 23:49:09 +0000 UTCOh yeah, I remember hearing that Connie's joke is straight up a pun? Like Jaegar is pronounced similarly to the japanese word for "house"? They did a good enough job translating it all things considered lol
Tim Chaos
2022-06-11 23:48:00 +0000 UTCGlad to see you guys enjoyed this epic episode! And I hope Sean and Abe get well soon! *Erwin voice* Your watchers understand! Your watchers will wait! You watchers hope you get well soon!!!
Tim Chaos
2022-06-11 23:46:31 +0000 UTCAh, you see I disagree, Michelle. AoT has never once pulled anything to level of taking their Tony Soprano, THE LEAD, and killing them off. And then their whole family, the now surrogate leads, a few seasons later. If that were the case then Eren would have died in S1 and Mikasa would have been killed on a revenge rampage later on. This show had never done anything like that. Kenny could kinda be seen as the Viper of this story. Comes in, fun as fuck, cock sure, and then dies in quick succession. But he was a foil for one of our heroes and was going down one way or another. This is the "This is Not A Kids Show" of AoT. Both sets up expectations for something that the show doesn't reallly traffic in, and is facially incorrect in and of itself. Now, where it Blows GoT out of the water is making me care about EVERYONE involved by S4 and not knowing who to root for in a battle, which is far more interesting in my view.
Sean TankTop
2022-06-11 23:43:14 +0000 UTCOh Connie's joke was translated differently here o.o This is AOT's version of a red wedding XD
Brimmy
2022-06-11 23:42:04 +0000 UTCAlso, no spoilers but i will say this, the conclusion of GoT is that the white walkers could destroy the world and then that Dany could destroy the world. We all know how the long night ended, very anticlimatic, and Dany destroyed one city and then she died. AoT... will not be that. Lets just say that the stakes have never been higher and major destruction will occur, not just like, a city. In that way AoT commits to consequences a lot more that Got IMO.
Michelle
2022-06-11 23:38:12 +0000 UTCto be fair sean a lot of the death in GoT were also side characters and that show had so many characters that they could kill a few more important ones now and then. But the truly important characters stuck around till the end. There was a lot of bullshittery too in how some of them got away with surving and hell, even Jon came back from the dead once. You could compare Jon coming back to the death to Armin getting the serum even, and Armin actually suffered consequences from that. Jon was just fine and no major issues after being brought back.
Michelle
2022-06-11 23:32:48 +0000 UTCYe i recommend to check out the dub speech too it's insane too
Gu
2022-06-11 23:30:37 +0000 UTCi hope you guys have checked out the dub of erwin's speech. it is equally epic
Erik
2022-06-11 23:27:22 +0000 UTCunreal, so stirring i was almost brought to tears
Sean TankTop
2022-06-11 23:24:40 +0000 UTC@Gu you are misunderstanding what I'm saying
Sean TankTop
2022-06-11 23:24:11 +0000 UTCErwin dying in s2 made no sense since we hadn't gotten a backstory yet, also it is ,in that it seems u guys don't like the action in aot as much as most other watchers *Or atleast Morgan didn't
Gu
2022-06-11 23:20:46 +0000 UTCMy soliders scream! My soldiers fight! My soldiers rage!
Gu
2022-06-11 23:18:41 +0000 UTCoh 100%! It feels like a gut punch cause you care about him, but his story was never EVER not going to conclude in this way! Him and Stannis, regardless of how you feel about them, are the 1st over the bow, 1st leading the charge, and that shit is respectable and super stirring!
Sean TankTop
2022-06-11 23:16:35 +0000 UTCtotally. I think its just a bad comparison UNTIL S4, where i resembles GoT in that I don't know who to root for! I know both sides fighting and I am rooting for and against them for different reasons! And that's WAAAAY more satisfying!
Sean TankTop
2022-06-11 23:14:07 +0000 UTCTotally, just found it hilarious. It has you on the edge of your seat but it has no way near the same emotional 'debt' or build up that GoT had, that shit would leave you depressed for an entire month
Faeginn
2022-06-11 23:10:37 +0000 UTCThose scenes with Erwin and Levi are 10/10. The musical score this episode is fucking incredible. Before lights out is one of my favorite tracks in this series. Btw Sean I had the exact same reaction to Zeke's baseball references.
Alejandro Gil
2022-06-11 23:10:11 +0000 UTCIt is funny, and i sorta feel the egg on my face, but in retrospect I stand by it. Erwin dying for the Cause is about as surprising as the movie Alien having aliens in it. I thought what people meant is that people can get iced at any time if they slip up and that ABSOLUTELY has not happened. People are fake dead or get brought back to life, if they had iced both Erwin and Armin in this season, I might be inclined to agree, when in all fairness Erwin should have been dead in S2.
Sean TankTop
2022-06-11 23:04:41 +0000 UTCthere's moments where its an emotional roller coaster, like Armin's hero moment but yeah, the Red Wedding will break a man and make them want to stop watching the show. I'd say the closest comparison you could make is Stannis' downward spiral being somewhat similar to Eren in S4.
Faeginn
2022-06-11 23:02:51 +0000 UTCit's really not. I def feel the egg on my face, but in hindsight, I stand by it. Pretty much every one of our principal leads is okay. And the big heart-string tugger of killing both Erwin and Armin, that maybe would have maybe brought it to that GoT level of consequences having lasting repercussions - but, we bring him back to life. If this was GoT, Eren would have died in S1, Erwin would have been killed S2, Hange should have been paralyzed in the Riess tomb etc. you feel me? FYI, I don't count this detractor of the story itself, just in the comparison that people threw at us all the time. This is "This is Not a Kids Show" of AoT. Just a dumb fucking thing to say that jacks up expectations and also isn't the case at all. Erwin is not the main character of this story, he's a lead but there's NO OTHER way his story wasn't going to end with him giving his life for the cause. From the S2 arm bite, we've basically know this dude is gonna take it to the limit for Survey Corp and humanity. But no, they've not pulled a Red Wedding or Ned's Death, or even a Viper vs Mountain kind of event. Not even close. If that's indeed how we're positing this comparison, willingness to kill off characters at ANY time, then absolutely not. Now, I will concede that by S4 I don't know who to root for, in that way, it EXCELS GoT in that sense. But yeah, one big death from a character that prolly should have been dead in S2 is not the same as the shit that GoT served.
Sean TankTop
2022-06-11 22:53:02 +0000 UTCand just now the biggest death, erwin lol. and the entire survey corps alongside him. almost all of the characters introduced from season 1 now are either death or MIA as far as season 3 goes.
Michelle
2022-06-11 22:49:45 +0000 UTCfeel better soon guys, both you and abe! and dont worry, this episode is more that hype enough to hold me for the rest of the week.
Michelle
2022-06-11 22:47:47 +0000 UTCThis isn't the game of thrones of anime *Erwin fucking dies* 10/10 for comedic timing
Faeginn
2022-06-11 22:46:37 +0000 UTCBruh, this is 100 percent like game of thrones. So many deaths so far of named characters. Levi squad, mike, Kenny squad, Marco just to name a few and I’m sure I’m forgetting a lot
GB3
2022-06-11 22:46:34 +0000 UTCHope everyone feels better soon! Epic run of episodes and loving the reactions to them. And ST reactions coming are an awesome surprise!
Andrew W
2022-06-11 22:41:12 +0000 UTC
