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Anarcho-Primitivism vs. Scientific Futurism = DFF #377

Enjoy this epic debate between two opposing philosophies for the future of humanity. After hearing the arguments, which path would you rather civilization choose?

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Life before agriculture was not dominated by ridiculously athletic ubermenschen. In some localities, in fact, it was pretty common to be pretty damn fat - because food was way more common in some areas compared to others.

Phoebe Ophie

You un-athletic fucks wouldn’t survive anprim society lol

Sergey

Historically in my region of north america(the chilcotin plateau) which was only really fully colonized in the last 150 years or so you actually could leave your family. There were networks of nomadic families and the preference was placed on cooperation rather than direct family lineage. So if someone is being an asshole or doesn't fit well with the rest of the family they would often give them to another family when they met again to see if they could fit in there. I assume this kind of thing would probably act as a corrective measure as well as just getting rid of the problematic people because in a world where social cooperation is everything and you need the family to survive the world you live in getting removed from your family and handed to another one is a clear sign that if you continue being shitty you will eventually be left with nothing. Obviously it differs in each society but this is an example of a way in which an anarcho primitive society might deal with people who are troublemakers or who feel alienated from the family they were born into.

Tay

Also great episode, one of the best ones so far.

Ben Shapiro

I agreed with Paul until the end when he went full retarded

Ben Shapiro

The main problem with An-Prim is that it's totally about going back to pre-Agriculture. The problems with that should be pretty blatant. Idk of there's another ideological term for going back to a societal structure that exists in harmony with nature, or if that's another sub-genre of An-Prim, but Modernization has lead to the current state of affairs, and regressing into pre-agricultural proto-society is just the opposite end of the spectrum. Being just as harmful, and destructive as Modernization, while saying " Yeah, but at least I'm not LITERALLY MODERNIZATION". It's some weird horseshoe theory shit. Then again, there's always the chance that I COMPLETELY misunderstand An-Prim theory.

Góði24

Just mix both together, thats what I do

Lance Storm

Damn TJ you killed it. Great writing.

Ian Mercurio

scientific futurism all the way.

SNDN


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