EARLY ACCESS: TJ AND PAUL TALK "JOKER"
Added 2019-10-06 02:59:00 +0000 UTC
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TJ's Right Paul Wrong.
Jarod
2019-10-07 09:07:14 +0000 UTCLoved this, the makeup made it even more enjoyable to me🤡 I love a movie that actually has a message. I have to see it as soon as possible, I love character studies, probably, because, I enjoy psychoanalysis, and getting into the mind of the darker side of humanity, understanding scares people to death. Their black and white worldview would be shattered. There is no absolute evil or absolute good just a man who had a string of bad days. I agree, sometimes the victims need some blame if they were a part in the person's breakdown, Yeah, they do people never wanna admit, they could of had a part to play in the creation of a person who snaps. They, don't wanna take responsibility and nothing will change until they do. Great video, I felt like screaming at the video, Fuck yes!!!
Harley Napier
2019-10-07 07:58:23 +0000 UTCDude you might as well make your own review with a comment like that.
McHitler
2019-10-07 07:42:50 +0000 UTCI was excited when I first saw the trailer for Joker. It gave me all of those dark and awestruck feelings I'd come to expect from Batman movies. Joaquin Phoenix has always had a good reputation for being some one who can play quirky and abstract characters, and overall the cast seemed to be selected really well. But I noticed that the trailer didn't really hint at what the movie was actually going to be about. I gathered that it would all be revealed in the screening but as I came to find out once I watched it - it never really did. Joker seemed like it was trying to be a film about a mans dissent into madness, but I never felt like we were shown that dissent. He was mad at the beginning and he was mad at the end, the only difference was that he had a body count to go with it. This hardly seems like a journey into some ones psychological meltdown and I'd say it's more analogous to a kid that finally mustered up the courage to confront his bullies. The films interpretation of the Joker is loosely based off of Allan Moores comic book The Killing Joke, wherein a failed comedian turns to insanity after being heckled and bullied on stage. The key difference between these two Jokers was that the Joker in the comic book was actually a funny guy and a deserved comedian. Arthur Fleck was not. I hate to be one of those pedantic fans that gets their knickers in a knot every time a story doesn't follow the exact same route as it's original predecessor, but I feel that in this instance it's kind of critical. The Joker needs to be a likeable guy. The Joker is supposed to be a witty, whimsical and charismatic person that wins people over with his charm and intelligence. Allan Moores Joker was a funny comedian and didn't deserve to fail. This evokes sympathy toward the character because he deserves to be successful. He was a normal, functioning human being that lived at home and provided for his wife and family - there was nothing to suggest that this man was not mentally sound. This makes it all the more shocking and terrifying when he does turn to the dark side and become the villain we eventually expect to see. We're given that initial glimpse at who he was and what he was capable of, thus making the audience more inclined to support him whilst paradoxically being simultaneously mortified by his actions. Kind of like Walter White from Breaking Bad. Heath Ledgers Joker is another good example of this. His character was filled with amazing one-liners and profound pieces of insight. His acts of terror were politically motivated and at the core he genuinely seemed like some one that wanted to have a long-term positive impact. He was a psychopath but an incredibly compelling and lovable one. I didn't like anything about the new Joker. He was a sad, deranged and delusional weirdo that lived with his mentally-ill mother. None of his stand-up was funny and none of his reasons for killing those people were justified. I don't really know what else to say about him because there's just not much to his character at all. No impassioned speeches, no motivations to kill other then revenge and malice. He just seems like some one who should have been tagged and thrown into a loony bin from the get-go. Kind of like these mass-shooters you see on the news; Boring, stupid and empty people. I still don't understand what exactly the riots were for. People looting stores and burning cars because three wall-street-esque suits got capped on a subway? Really? I don't know the statistics for fatal shootings in non-fictional cities that resemble Gotham (i.e New York) but I'm gonna guess it's a lot more than three a day. I thought people usually marched for the people they didn't want to die, not for the people they did want to die. It doesn't make any sense to me. I also didn't understand the point of the Jokers hallucinatory relationship with the woman down the hall. It seemed like a side-plot that didn't really go any where and the movie wouldn't have suffered in the slightest had it not been included. It seemed like something that could have been made into a separate movie in and of itself, had it been focused on and dissected a little bit more. She didn't play a vital part in the film, and all it boiled down to was the Joker breaking into her apartment soaking wet and rambling on about some irrelevant bullshit. Where was the police commissioner and the behind the scenes work on catching the Joker? There was no interrogations, no wire-taps, no set ups, no plan. Nothing. We were shown two beavis-and-butthead detectives for a couple of scenes that were asking the most basic and rudimentary questions imaginable. Any competent police officer could have found the Joker. He didn't put in the slightest bit of effort into concealing his actions. The Joker is supposed to be sneaky and unpredictable - always one step ahead of the law enforcement. All of that was absent in this film. Overall I'd give the movie a 6/10 only because the directing, acting and scenery was brilliant. The writing, story arc, and character development was far from it.
Sam Bray
2019-10-07 06:46:25 +0000 UTCTJ, Paul, Scotty- I appreciate you.
Breonna Rice
2019-10-06 20:17:48 +0000 UTCwoah calm your tits bitch
Mdxfiend
2019-10-06 19:22:29 +0000 UTCSo much contento.I can't keep up.
Infams
2019-10-06 17:48:13 +0000 UTCTJ, quit smokin!
Just_A_Guy
2019-10-06 15:46:44 +0000 UTCDid you guys catch the references to GG Allin and John Wayne Gacy? Joker’s supposed love interest’s daughter’s name was GG, and the club he did his comedy routine at was called Pogos. The first film Todd Phillips made was a GG Allin doc called Hated which JWG was essentially the executive producer of. Gacy and GG were friends, so Todd Phillips wrote him and asked him to paint the poster for the movie. Gacy obliged and Phillips funded the project by selling copies of it. Cool tidbit I thought you might enjoy!
Brian
2019-10-06 14:32:15 +0000 UTCWhether the public is fearful of something is not an indicator of whether or not there's a credible threat that a police department has a obligation to safeguard against.
Graham Paterson
2019-10-06 09:43:02 +0000 UTCNot a complaint, but more of an addition to the conversation. His second murder is of his mother! His motivation for that was tied up in the arc about whether or not he was Thomas Wayne's son. Also, in the Murray fantasy sequence Murray says something like "If I had a son I'd want him to be like you." This establishes to me early on that having an accepting father figure is critically important to what he believes he needs to be happy. The question of how much of his Mother's story is true is also open. If her story is true (as evidenced though not definitely by the photo with his initials on it) then Thomas Wayne is a monstrous asshole who abandoned a child and then got a woman committed to asylum to hide his deeds. Even as Joker confronts Thomas looking for a Father figure he also has killed his mother, perhaps out of anger for deceiving him for so long, and perhaps even for deceiving him that he was indeed Thomas's son (her obsession with him was quite complete after all, that Joker is Thomas's son would could simply be the ultimate fantasy for her.) As for violence, the scene in which Thomas punches Joker is also a little bit of violence. I thought that they were setting up Joker killing the Wayne's at the end, the movie was going big so I thought they might just go for it. But in the end the movement he created got to the Waynes indirectly, which is more nuanced and raises the question of Joker's level of responsibility for the creation of Batman. So yes.. lots to think about :D But in any case as you recounted his murders him killing his mother in the hospital wasn't mentioned to here I am a few bowls deep talking to you about it :)
Michael Allen CPA
2019-10-06 09:17:38 +0000 UTCwhat about his mom?
CJ Stardust
2019-10-06 05:29:01 +0000 UTCthe best art of the video is the dog in between TJ and Paul
CJ Stardust
2019-10-06 05:28:09 +0000 UTCGo see this movie. Makes the Avengers look like a heap of steaming poop.
Lil View
2019-10-06 05:16:37 +0000 UTCWhen I was in college I did a report on clown phobia, it seems most people fear clowns because they feel like the face paint could be concealing anyone or anything. As an aside, he kills 6 people - 3 in the train, 1 work asshole, Murray, and the woman in the asylum.
Jack of Tears
2019-10-06 05:09:50 +0000 UTCI loved it
Jason Clark
2019-10-06 05:09:12 +0000 UTCI'm guessing this has spoilers? Havent seen it yet so I'll have to wait to check this out
DylanRuns
2019-10-06 03:19:21 +0000 UTCIf anything, TJ looked more like Gacy, which probably answers the question as to why clowns are so reviled. I mean, it was the inspiration for Stephen King to create Pennywise
Lloyd Llewellyn
2019-10-06 03:18:14 +0000 UTCYayyy! So hyped!!
Berzerk
2019-10-06 03:01:42 +0000 UTC
