ARE THE TORIES SELLING OF THE NHS IN THE UK. YES. DID LABOUR PRETTY UP THE NHS TO PRESPECTIVE CLIENTS TO BUY THE NHS. YES YES YES YES YES FUCK 2 PARTY SYSTEMS!
Michael Sewell
2023-12-08 00:30:05 +0000 UTC
4916 subs each paying $10 a month even if half of those earnings were taken by Patreon and taxes that would still be $24,575 divided by three guys which adds to $8191 a month not to mention the donation money you guys make off of onion nuggets literally just watching dumb shit and partying it out with the homies, like I get it you're not rich but it doesn't seem like you guys are that poor either, am I right or is there something I'm missing..?
Don't get me wrong by the way as far as podcasters go you guys work hard as fuck and are funny and I appreciate the podcast.
Justin Humphries
2023-11-28 20:02:41 +0000 UTC
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA Paul thinks his days making mocha frappe lattes at Starbucks was "boots on the ground" hard work is the funniest shit I've heard in a long time!
Err
2023-11-22 05:18:23 +0000 UTC
I thought it was the other way around... And the Kirks were the rich kids. Dad used to throw em $100 to order a pizza.
Err
2023-11-22 04:48:50 +0000 UTC
I don't give a shit about politics, but I do enjoy watching fat neckbeards get outta breath from the simple act of sitting at a computer and arguing... MONKEY BACKED IN CORNER, OH NO, MONKEY YELL AND SHOUT A BUNCH OF BS NONSENSE AND HOPE NO ONE WILL NOTICE. 10/10 do this again!
Err
2023-11-22 03:55:03 +0000 UTC
Vaush is so closed minded...
Delayed
2023-11-21 23:40:07 +0000 UTC
"Paul bad"
Delayed
2023-11-21 23:00:26 +0000 UTC
Can you please link a time stamp to any part of any DFF video where Paul advocated for not participating in electoral politics at all? Because to me, Paul has always been crystal clear in his message that blind, unconditional support for Democrats being the extent of one’s political involvement is simply not effective, and that an alternative should be established whilst shifting focus more on to direct action from laborers.
Mazy
2023-11-20 09:33:50 +0000 UTC
Check out this video if you’re interested in learning why this is a misrepresentation of Lenin and Marxism as a whole that Vaush often trots out in support of Dems. https://youtu.be/JUnMxS-ps9Q?feature=shared
Mazy
2023-11-20 09:14:45 +0000 UTC
Lenin supported voting for a worker’s party regardless of whether their victory was viable or might cost the election for a slightly more favorable bourgeoisie party. In fact, Lenin believed that the failure of such a party was an inevitability that would convince workers of the futility of electoralism.
Vaush takes this out of context by pretending that the Democratic party in the US would classify as a worker’s party and that Lenin would advocate voting for them in the interest of preventing Republicans from winning. In reality, Lenin’s position on electoral politics would probably lie much closer to Paul’s, if not further left; establish a strong labor movement and a worker’s party and vote for them over capitalists even if they don’t have a chance of winning in order to strengthen said movement.
So yeah, this is just Vaush quote mining old dead Marxists to support his already preconceived conclusion. It’s nothing new for him.
Mazy
2023-11-20 09:06:56 +0000 UTC
Vaush a Beverly hills boy.
Mohammed
2023-11-19 13:57:58 +0000 UTC
This rat. There is no 'culture of hope' on a local level. Go interview an Amazon warehouse worker. I used to be one. Subpar internet and utilities. An expectation of 60-80% towards rent. A hamster wheel of poverty DIRECTLY resultant from abusive HR and management that trash any applicant who asks for a living wage with a BACHELOR'S DEGREE. Below the median? Food service workers? Glazed eyes. Zombies. We all want to DIE because we're POWERLESS. You call up a local apartment complex and ask if they have INTENTION to make new housing to bring costs down. And they will blatantly say NO. Fuck Vaush, defending these enemies of humanity. Local politics are even MORE corrupt. Look into ISP duopolies. Water, gas and electric monopolies. Fuck you.
Gabe
2023-11-19 05:08:39 +0000 UTC
Proud that over the course of one election cycle that TJ has turned his opinion on Voosh. I remember TJ and Paul having this heated debate and TJ siding with Vaushs opinion. TJ has seen the fault in this
Brad The Patreorn
2023-11-18 22:34:07 +0000 UTC
Yes Vaush was definitely high on his own excrement
Brad The Patreorn
2023-11-18 22:27:24 +0000 UTC
Why does Voosh keep saying "threatening Manchin" is calling for his life? Lmao it's negotiating and leverage. That's literally how politics are played. He's acting like you guys think you're saying Biden should threaten his life 🤣😂
Brad The Patreorn
2023-11-18 22:26:01 +0000 UTC
I'm glad I only knowol of Vaush through this podcast. He's annoying as fuck.
ThePoopyDoopy
2023-11-18 14:32:00 +0000 UTC
Paul, this was embarrassing. How about you actually come up with some points next time and not just your usual "this argument works because this show is an eco chamber". Your arguments dont work in the real world/when challenged by someone who knows what they are talking about.
Chanastify
2023-11-17 20:01:23 +0000 UTC
Yall think you’re fuckin revolutionaries for not voting lol it’s gonna have the same result you’re gonna get a do nothing democrat as well. But hey at least you and Paul can be smug about how didn’t do anything!
Garrett Bay
2023-11-17 17:09:05 +0000 UTC
Why does paul have to get mad and scream 15 times an episode now I’m so tired of the salt you miserable fat fuck why are you so angry all the time
Garrett Bay
2023-11-17 16:56:16 +0000 UTC
Or in a way, I guess he holds onto very specific principals he says he has at the detremit to others, and this may leave him in denial about how self serving it is
hookshot245
2023-11-17 13:23:59 +0000 UTC
As someone who was a frequent Vaush viewer for a good while after he started coming up, I understand this desire and also would like more. Its good content. But the thing you have to understand about Vaush is he doesn't actually have the strong principals he claims to have and is very into gamifying what he does and will be dishonest and flip on people if it suits that. You will either see it or you won't
hookshot245
2023-11-17 13:22:26 +0000 UTC
Really appreciate that Benjamin could see past the whole Vaush part to comment on the most relevant issue of the episode.
reptilemasters
2023-11-17 12:45:19 +0000 UTC
Man Vaush really showed himself up as a smarmy privileged arse in this. He got emotional and insulting from the very start. Paul held his own. All hail the king Paulsego.
reptilemasters
2023-11-17 10:03:02 +0000 UTC
I'd like a retrospective on this debate. Looking back on this interaction my feelings are that of a one night stand and the ensuing walk of shame. I'm really hoping this bridge hasn't been completely burned. You all agree on so much it'd be a shame for future collaboration to not occur. I see both sides on this topic, but it was belabored to the point that an incendiary climax was inevitable.
With love to the pessimists-
10baseballdmo
2023-11-17 00:18:06 +0000 UTC
Convenient. A way of advocacy where you don't have to do anything at all 🙄
Rocky Alvillar
2023-11-16 20:49:43 +0000 UTC
I like Vaush's takes on on some topics. But the out-of-touch entitlement just oozes off Vaush in this video and it's so off-putting. His repeated assertions that the world is better, when it's not. His refusal to hold democrats accountable by withholding his undying support. And his inability to understand how powerful a strong economic and pro labor agenda would be in unifying the average American... It's so clear this little internet boy has never toiled away at a thankless job for years or been so broke he had sleep for dinner. It's clear he doesn't get it and he probably never will. Thinking Trump is more of a threat to democracy than what the democrats and republicans have allowed corporations to do for decades is honestly insane. The whole system is slowly suffocating us, but he's comfortable enough that he doesn't have to add that into his little vote-blue calculation.
Kohl Scanlon
2023-11-16 20:48:39 +0000 UTC
Paul as gone full retard on this one. He’s so high on his own fart it’s hard to watch
David De Grandpré
2023-11-16 19:59:51 +0000 UTC
Are you actually retarded?
Daniel Melle
2023-11-16 17:45:41 +0000 UTC
I'll put my cream in your stupid eyes
Daniel Melle
2023-11-16 17:43:52 +0000 UTC
I am totally down with the sentiment "bring on the nukes"
Daniel Melle
2023-11-16 17:39:46 +0000 UTC
I couldn't have been more enraged by that comment
Daniel Melle
2023-11-16 17:39:14 +0000 UTC
I have only felt rage in this whole onion nuggets, usually I don't comment dont say shit, but vaush saying shit communicating that this system is going good is fucking retarded. A man who makes enough money, he's not thinking of a man who isn't. I work 80 hour weeks and me and my family are just getting by. I'm not a fan of this man, he fills me with absolute rage, this is going well???!?
Daniel Melle
2023-11-16 17:20:11 +0000 UTC
If there is another way that involves less suffering, and you fight against it, then in some sense your actions or inaction are partially responsible for the ensuing suffering that could have been prevented. In a way, the discussion is about what actually reduces suffering long term, but if we are being honest, it is impossible for either of them to know for sure that that is what their position would do, so this moralizing bullshit is unjustified. Its fucking dumb. I wanted an actual conversation. I didn't get it.
hookshot245
2023-11-16 14:28:07 +0000 UTC
If you agree that your advocacy can be for either a dem or the GOP, then obviously, everything else removed, the conclusion to vote for a dem is better. What is being argued is whether or not this is really the case, but this was never actually explored. Instead, we get reasons over and over about what would be the case if that premise was true instead of a defense of the premise itself other than "you have a child's understandings of politics bro" If its so obvious why there are only two choices, then you should be able to easily give it a proper defense.
hookshot245
2023-11-16 14:24:18 +0000 UTC
It isn't an appeal to emotion. It is pointing out supposed similarities in tactics between abusers and this debate shit. Its a shity and superficial comparison imo, but it is not an appeal to emotion, my dude. I don't get what this has to do with terfs, my guy.
hookshot245
2023-11-16 14:16:54 +0000 UTC
1) He is not advocating not voting. He is advocating being more picky with your vote and not just assuming only two options are possible, because that assumption fuels the continuation of this state of affairs
2) Both Vaush and Paul think voting is not only not the only thing you can do in politics, but advocate for fighting outside of electorialism to achieve their ends and think this is whats most important. If you're able to pay attention to what they are saying, you would have seen this is the case, but never came to the forefront because Vaush was too busy being a condescending prick, TJ jumped in a lot, and Paul, understandably, got salty at being called a fucking child.
hookshot245
2023-11-16 14:13:01 +0000 UTC
I'm probably gonna vote Biden if it ends up being Biden v Trump, but it frustrated me how condescending and honestly kind of out of touch vaush was in this convo. It feels like he didn't even try to understand Paul or TJ's perspectives. That's this debate bro shit for you I guess.
hookshot245
2023-11-16 14:06:22 +0000 UTC
Vaush🧔 POooOooP 💩
Poop Poop
2023-11-16 12:47:26 +0000 UTC
If by creaming him you mean putting words in Paul's mouth for 3 hours.
Smitty
2023-11-16 12:21:37 +0000 UTC
Guess God exists then.
NikoNikolaia
2023-11-16 09:24:13 +0000 UTC
The worst aspects are being employed by the GOP though lmao what a nonsense comment. Unless you have some specific, well designed plan to start your perfect leftist utopian revolution you should probably calm down with the childish wish fulfillment politicking.
Neebsz
2023-11-16 06:46:47 +0000 UTC
Doing nothing and complaining is about as effective as your current strategy.
Velvet Zealot
2023-11-16 05:26:57 +0000 UTC
Im really hoping this is satire.. 🤡🤣
Green Calamity
2023-11-16 03:31:17 +0000 UTC
Hey, Paul. I appreciated the conversation. I don't really fall on either side of this debate. But, I enjoyed the conversation. Thanks for a fun show :)
AARON
2023-11-16 00:46:12 +0000 UTC
Needless to say, I was taken aback by the "manage your finances better" comment. It may have seemed like a sick burn toward Paul in the moment, but anyone would have told Vaush to go fuck himself in the same exchange. I doubt he has the awareness to realize that kind of condescension and dismissiveness got you Trump in the first place.
Laurell Silentshade
2023-11-16 00:12:38 +0000 UTC
This was the funniest shit ever.
I also like how Vaush advocates we suffer in a system where he is immune the worst aspects of that suffering. If not all of it.
Rinpoo
2023-11-16 00:06:47 +0000 UTC
It's not just Paul's experience that makes the point though. It seems people interpret the lived experience argument as though it's one person's anecdote and observation of trends throughout their lifetime being used as a conversation/debate trump card. I think anyone with a working class family background, even outside of the US, can identify with some of the things Paul has shared about his life. I can look at myself and people around me (friends who are several years my junior) and see they are not where their parents were financially at the same age.
Laurell Silentshade
2023-11-15 23:52:49 +0000 UTC
Glad to see we have lord protector Attano on our side 🙃
Jake Garner
2023-11-15 23:35:21 +0000 UTC
Velma needs a modest dress situation
Benjamin Whyley
2023-11-15 21:48:44 +0000 UTC
Paul, thank you for calling out that fucking hipster for what he truly is. The scumfuck needed to hear that.
Revenant
2023-11-15 21:36:16 +0000 UTC
Manage your finances better!?!?!? Who the fuck does this guy think he is?!?!?! What gives this asshole the right to talk to workers that way? A lot of us have been working and paying our way since he was a fucking sperm in his dads balls!
Pranab
2023-11-15 21:18:47 +0000 UTC
It’s so sad that liberals are so unimaginative that they think voting is the only effective political activity.
Glob
2023-11-15 20:10:46 +0000 UTC
Totally managing my finances better after this.
Tristan F Wilson
2023-11-15 19:44:54 +0000 UTC
My old friend group still says "guys my skin just doesn't feel right" from when I was having a very bad health anxiety time. I lost like 3 years of my life because I thought a tumor was growing in my throat and was excessively depressed. The Xanax the doctor prescribed to me ended up "fixing" my anxiety because the sensation of something being caught in my throat went away on it. I still got addicted for 8 months but I'm glad my health anxiety isn't super delusional frog in chest man level bad.
Zeaxe
2023-11-15 19:09:13 +0000 UTC
I got sewage and water problems down here in Nola. My neighbor always using my hose and making my bill HIGH HIGH. Also, I would absolutely get an abortion, so I can't wait to go to jail. Fun!
TheMedsPeds
2023-11-15 18:55:24 +0000 UTC
It seems like Vaush doesn't actually want to convince people of his positions. He starts with "I'm right" and follows it up with calling you a retard and brow-beating you until you cave and adopt his position. But that doesn't work, people like me can't be name-called into changing my mind.
Velvet Zealot
2023-11-15 18:41:19 +0000 UTC
How’s the current plan going?
Tyler Swift
2023-11-15 18:38:31 +0000 UTC
I really enjoyed this episode and know things got heated, but I hope you bring guests on more regularly.
While a fan of both sides, I really think Paul showed how little Vaush understands the average worker’s thought process. I know the “lived experience” meme gets used a lot, but I think it really proved how inexperienced Vaush is in the real world.
Christopher H Drain
2023-11-15 18:32:26 +0000 UTC
Ok, y'all did it. Got the views, had some yelling and screaming for the quick rinse content whores on YouTube. Let's go back to real content soon.
Subtractive Email
2023-11-15 17:44:16 +0000 UTC
Still waiting for some real life examples how to achieve the things DFF is for and some real life actions by themselves, instead of repeating the same complaints over and over again without changing one little thing.
humungousfungus
2023-11-15 17:38:10 +0000 UTC
I was hoping Vaush would ask, "why is not voting a more revolutionary action than voting?" There are a lot of ways to answer it
Hayden Hart
2023-11-15 16:10:22 +0000 UTC
This was great.
Nancy Pulussy
2023-11-15 16:09:03 +0000 UTC
Vaush was tap dancing around points in his flippiest flops today. Somehow the political climate is both improving and getting worse at the same time. And politicians both don't care about your winning and also will listen if you plead with them. All over the place with this one.
U wot m8
2023-11-15 15:37:57 +0000 UTC
*Single mother working 3 jobs cant afford rent*
Vaush: Maybe manage your finances better, stop buying starbucks and eating avacado toast.
Ryan Lloyd
2023-11-15 15:35:14 +0000 UTC
Eh. This conservation definitely made me lose respect for Vaush, but I hate when people use the "he reminds me of my ex" tact. Attack what he actually says rather than performing some spurious vibe check.
Velvet Zealot
2023-11-15 14:18:32 +0000 UTC
I wouldn't say Vaush is a grifter, but saying that Paul needs to "manage his finances better" is definitely a grifter statement. Even if he meant it as a joke, it's so gross and disrespectful that I don't trust a word that comes out of his mouth.
Velvet Zealot
2023-11-15 14:14:52 +0000 UTC
Enjoy your do-nothing democrats forever
Velvet Zealot
2023-11-15 14:11:20 +0000 UTC
What a waste of an episode. I only get half a show? Nobody gives a fucking shit about Vaush.
DownrightSuperb
2023-11-15 12:14:33 +0000 UTC
Honestly a little disappointed in Paul. Vaush creamed him.
Sinna Burns
2023-11-15 11:40:09 +0000 UTC
Very proud of Paul 🫡🇵🇸❤️🔥
Jake Garner
2023-11-15 10:26:52 +0000 UTC
❤️❤️ paul ❤️❤️ (tj and scotty can both share one heart ❤️)
Violin Vertigo
2023-11-15 09:40:54 +0000 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjHjiSyRfkA
Glob
2023-11-15 08:09:13 +0000 UTC
bruh him literally lying about mao and lenin over and over has me seething
Glob
2023-11-15 07:31:30 +0000 UTC
This is the same kind of shitty appeal to emotion argument terfs use my dude. I don't even watch Vaush but his detractors always make the worst fucking arguments.
Neebsz
2023-11-15 07:28:28 +0000 UTC
Examples?
SPT12
2023-11-15 07:22:42 +0000 UTC
He really isn’t? The fact that you didn’t explain how it’s out of context is telling. Leftists tactically voting is in fact supported.
SPT12
2023-11-15 07:22:11 +0000 UTC
Btw his quoting of lenin is a direct lie, if you read the text yourself he's taking it entirely out of context
Glob
2023-11-15 06:55:06 +0000 UTC
Vaush will legit say something, then two minutes later say he didn't say it and try to gaslight you. He honestly gives me the same domestic abuser vibes as Crowder...They're honestly more alike than not
Glob
2023-11-15 06:20:00 +0000 UTC
even when i agree with vaush rarely he's such a smarmy, smug prick I just feel gross
Glob
2023-11-15 05:48:30 +0000 UTC
So basically Paul's politics are to vote for nobody, do nothing, and cry about it.
Jonathan Keller
2023-11-15 04:00:36 +0000 UTC
Kick his ass, Paul!
SansPunBook
2023-11-15 01:07:58 +0000 UTC
Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scbyNdHneco&t=1s
IronButterfly
2023-11-15 00:22:56 +0000 UTC
Ben couldn't even arouse a sex bot.
Revenant
2023-11-15 00:04:58 +0000 UTC
Nobody can defeat Paul's Ego. He is the Mike Tyson of arguing.