God Games | Wisdom Saga Reaction
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it would be so cool if you and Casper ever did an interview with Jorge like how you did with Teagan! Your guys’ insight in this musical is awesome and it would be so cool to see one day! ☺️❤️❤️
Jennifer Rose
2024-09-09 01:23:20 +0000 UTCI just noticed something from Mutiny, the pose on “I need to get - home…” and god games. “Who’s a prisoner far from - home…
Josie Martinson
2024-09-05 15:15:25 +0000 UTCInteresting insight into the Athena vs. Ares quick-thought question: In the TikTok video where the singers first delved into clips from this song, a clock effect and blue text signaled the start of Athena's quick thought, but then it's countered by a red clock effect and "Quick Thought x2" in red from Ares! Then Athena's quick thought overrides his when she sings again. Could be that they have the same sort of battle mind time distortion since they're both war gods.
Robert LeMoyne
2024-09-04 07:35:58 +0000 UTCSo fun fact. Hades, Poseidon and Zeus are the big three when it comes to greek gods. they each have their own domain and can not make rulings over the others when it comes to their domains. Zeus literally can't tell poseidon to do shit here, cause odysseus is forced to travel over the ocean which belongs to poseidon, not zeus.
Drew Schneider
2024-09-04 02:52:43 +0000 UTCMortius speaks only the truth, Zeus SUCKS!!! Most of Greek Mythos can be summed up by 'Zeus stuck his **** in it, and now it's everyones problem'. Funnily enough, the start of the Trojan war is one of the few times it wasn't Zeus's fault XD
Dee Cee
2024-09-03 23:08:17 +0000 UTCYa granted zues can strip godhood but athean is also the favorite daughter and there's kinda the whole athena and odessus story point that needs a resolution because currently it's still my goodbye was the last time they saw eachother
Hunter
2024-09-03 05:42:10 +0000 UTCAccording to Calypso in Epic universe, goddesses can’t die 😅 but no, definitely Athena didn’t die in Homer’s Odyssey, so at best, she’s just incapacitated for a bit
Paige EJ
2024-09-03 04:35:54 +0000 UTCYou can check ns2dstudios tiktok for answers on why the ichor is red and not gold :)
G D S
2024-09-03 03:21:42 +0000 UTCI love this song so much, the only thing that keeps bothering me is how Athena's blood is red, aren't Greek gods' blood supposed to be gold, being ichor, or is this Percy Jackson brainrot, because I totally thought gold blood was canon. I am baffled.
Existing Introvert
2024-09-03 01:45:18 +0000 UTCZeus and Posiden have hella beef so he wouldn't call upon him.
Baron Salt
2024-09-02 22:51:55 +0000 UTCNah, he would want Ody free so he can kill him
WetH8des
2024-09-02 21:44:39 +0000 UTCFrick yeah.
Kory Misun
2024-09-02 21:17:49 +0000 UTCyour best is all we can ask for, please stay safe stay sane and remember to breath and enjoy whe sunshine you have <3
Ash Hamilton
2024-09-02 21:09:38 +0000 UTCAlso it apparently looked like mustard
Soul Hunter
2024-09-02 21:07:30 +0000 UTCThis is not the wisdom saga this is the trauma saga
Grayson Seale
2024-09-02 20:04:19 +0000 UTCWhich also casts doubt on her immortality. Maybe goddesses can't die, but a goddess who's grown human enough to bleed red...?
Bean of Glory
2024-09-02 15:27:32 +0000 UTCPart of me wonders if he placed that line of Calypso's in the song right before to sow doubt & hope. It absolutely hurts worse when you're not sure of which way it's going, when you remember that line but also remember that maybe the king of the gods (from the beginning of the next song) has more god-ending ability due to his position in the pantheon
Bean of Glory
2024-09-02 15:25:45 +0000 UTCYeh it definitely would not have hurt the same with mustard blood XD
Bean of Glory
2024-09-02 15:21:06 +0000 UTCThe classic father-daughter bond XD
Bean of Glory
2024-09-02 15:20:08 +0000 UTCI’m surprised that Zeus didn’t make her convince Poseidon since he has the biggest beef with ody if he didn’t want her to win his game
Lexi Rasmussen
2024-09-02 05:10:07 +0000 UTCHera isn’t just impressed by Ody’s fidelity because she’s tired of being cheated on. She is also the goddess of marriage. Being faithful to your spouse is essentially holy to her.
Ashley Evers
2024-09-02 04:05:37 +0000 UTCIt always warms my heart when Athen owns up her friendship with Telemachus to Ares and practically shouts out that Telemachus is her friend 🧡. She sounds so protective of him in a way she never was with Ody.
Jane Jones
2024-09-01 23:30:18 +0000 UTCWhenever I feel down, all I need to do is replay Mortius's reaction to the last part of God Games and I instantly get a dopamine hit. Thank you. And yeah. MORTIIIUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSS!
G D S
2024-09-01 22:09:58 +0000 UTCAlso Hera’s music is Disco because Jorge was inspired by Gloria Gaynor’s I Will Survive when writing her part
YourManReb
2024-09-01 19:00:34 +0000 UTCAres’ instrument is an Erhu which has Chinese Origins. This was meant to be a subtle nod to Sun Tzu’s The Art of War
YourManReb
2024-09-01 18:58:35 +0000 UTCI'm sure he thought Hera would be the end of it. She HATES "Heros" (mostly because they are her Husband's bastards). But Getting Hera on-side because he's unfaithful is probably the 'shame' (Also, I don't know why he thought that, Hera was against Troy in the War).
Mellissa Marcus
2024-09-01 18:48:51 +0000 UTC“I can’t kick his ass while he’s on the island, so…”
Mafidon
2024-09-01 13:38:45 +0000 UTCYou make good points. Zeus is very talented at giving the illusion of a choice, in horrific 'Would You Rather?' games where nothing ends happily.
Kory Misun
2024-09-01 12:24:57 +0000 UTCI think Zeus never thought Athena was going to win because it was going to be a loss if Athena only had to convince Zeus and he wanted her to have the illusion of choice by saying "or me" because he just wanted entertainment from her trying to convince everyone else and since she beat the game, his true colors came out because he never expected her to win anyway. And she brought "shame" to him. Well, at least that's what I think.
Quxxn fan
2024-09-01 12:19:51 +0000 UTCAt least our mean boy Ares was concerned enough about his half-sister to ask if she was gone after the big blast. I agree, Zeus is the biggest dong. I am curious, in the snippet we get, he says 'And me,' but in this he says 'Or me.' Does he mean Athena needs to convince the roster of gods, or manage to convince him on his own in order to win. I am confusion.
Kory Misun
2024-09-01 10:17:11 +0000 UTCSomeone speculated that the way Athena goes through the gods to get their approval is almost like mini-boss fights - with no real skin in the game, Apollo and Hephaestus would be the easiest to convince that it's not worth keeping Odysseus locked away on Calypso's island as a punishment, but gets harder slightly with Aphrodite who felt Odysseus didn't do enough trying to get back for those he claims to love and Ares who sees him as a coward for using his intelligence to outwit enemies rather than being a blundering blockhead using brute force. Hera was meant to seem like someone who would be hard to convince, as Zeus's counterpart and Queen of the gods, but she was also very easy - which i feel in part is because Hera loves to spite Zeus.
Ashley
2024-09-01 04:13:31 +0000 UTCI want the entire musical animated in the style of that final scene! It's so good!!
Jeremy Sellers
2024-09-01 02:46:41 +0000 UTCIt's one of the reasons that everyone's having trouble figuring out the timeline. At least one of those 20 years in the original epic are taken up by the long time that Odysseus and his men spend on Circe's island, but the decision to make Odysseus both an unwaveringly faithful husband (a change I quite like, personally) and unwavering in his resolve to get home renders it...improbable, to say the least, that he would spend at least an entire year with Circe.
SK Elkins
2024-08-31 23:58:16 +0000 UTCWe are finally at got games what got me in to epic I was so excited I came on here for the first time to see the reaction as I couldn't wait 3+weeks love your reaction man ❤️ will definitely rewatch this on youtube when it comes out
Wicked-fellow
2024-08-31 19:26:35 +0000 UTCI literally typed "WHAT DO YOU MEEEEEAN???" in the livestream chat when the final title card popped up, so I fully understand! This is worse than the end of Thunder Saga for me, b/c at least a lot of us knew what was coming...but not this!!!
fluffqueen91
2024-08-31 18:53:16 +0000 UTCSO TRUE!!! Nothing Jay does is accidental except for the year count 🤣 and Elepenor not being added to the total lol (I think he fixed it after but I'm not sure)
ManiacKuzco
2024-08-31 18:45:55 +0000 UTCYou know I wasn't even thinking about the fact that it's Zeus against Athena and he is the Father King of the gods that's a great point, I know in the Odyssey Zeus said to Athena that if she integers with the Trojan word he would hurt her bad enough it would take 10 years to heal so that's why I was thinking she can't die but it IS Zeus we're talking about so anything could happen lol
ManiacKuzco
2024-08-31 18:44:32 +0000 UTCFair point. But what I’ve learned studying this show is that nothing is accidental. I 100% think that it was his clever way of hiding a message.
Ethan Schwenzer
2024-08-31 18:09:58 +0000 UTCIt's okay Apollo is the on-site medic :"
rainigraphy
2024-08-31 16:26:42 +0000 UTCIn "We'll Be Fine" when Telemachus says "you're my friend, I couldn't ask for more", that lyric in the original snippet was "you're the friend I've never had before :') "
Deb
2024-08-31 15:06:11 +0000 UTCAnd literal godmother Athena. :')
Seiryunohoushi
2024-08-31 12:48:31 +0000 UTCDisco Queen Hera is everything.
Seiryunohoushi
2024-08-31 12:41:40 +0000 UTChe has a Youtube channel (just called Brandon McInnis) where he does covers of anime and games among other things, so maybe that'll help :)
EngelDraws
2024-08-31 10:59:22 +0000 UTCon the gods and death thing, that's mortal Vs god, not god Vs god let alone king of the gods Vs god
Phoenix Mackenzie
2024-08-31 07:43:30 +0000 UTCyeah being a prince could mean he has no other friends
Phoenix Mackenzie
2024-08-31 07:42:36 +0000 UTCEven if she (Athena) doesn't die she's still gravely hurt. I mean, I always feel like just getting hurt that close to dying is still worth being worried over.
Kayleigh McRae
2024-08-31 06:13:12 +0000 UTCLmaooo... mustard blood.
Rue R
2024-08-31 05:17:01 +0000 UTCUnderstandable, thanks for sharing, although I am beyond logic and reason, it still bugs me, I’m sure there is a way to make it look good golden, maybe trying to make it look metallic? Idk. I’m a bit happier that it was a choice and not just forgotten/mistake. Still bugs me tho. Amazing animatic regardless.
William Watson
2024-08-31 03:33:34 +0000 UTCI actually had the same question about disco Hera! Did some searching around the internet and found this old video by Jorge: https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgeherrans/video/6944569449529888006?lang=en. It also mentions what instrument Ares has and why!
Opal Saphyr
2024-08-31 03:28:31 +0000 UTCWHY DOES THE GOD OF MUSIC ONLY GET ONE LINE!!!!!!!
William Watson
2024-08-31 03:24:32 +0000 UTCThe line between naïveté and hopefulness is almost invisible Poseidon warned us, you can’t trust the gods. If Athena wasn’t being emotional she would have seen from the start, Zeus was not going to release him, getting other gods to agree with her will only piss him off. Athena should have saw this coming, and we should have too. Cuz Zeus is a massive *insert What here*
William Watson
2024-08-31 03:23:24 +0000 UTCMy thoughts during the livestream: "How could you, Zeus?! That is your baby girl! She came out of your FACE!"
Amber Branson
2024-08-31 03:15:52 +0000 UTCI'm honestly very saddened by how short Apollo's part is, but especially because I looked his singer up and he mostly does anime dubs, which are fine, but don't use any of that incredible tamber! I've no where else to get my fix but that one line!
Colby Zimmermann
2024-08-31 02:59:53 +0000 UTCI think a good reason why Hera was so disco and flashy was because her sacred animal was the peacock! She was peacocking!
Colby Zimmermann
2024-08-31 02:55:55 +0000 UTCWatching Gwendy's livestream after it, apparently 1. The golden ichor looked too much like mustard; and 2. It was suggested to change it to blood to show how much more human Athena has learned to become ever since leaving Odysseus
Riley Garcia
2024-08-31 02:55:29 +0000 UTCYeah Jay has taken a lot of creative liberties in this telling. I dont know if you saw but he actually made a YT short explaining that you shouldnt take Epic as the true story. Another one of the changes that he made that i found interesting is Odysseus' time with Circe. In the original story Ody spent a number of years with her and even had a child with her.
Tiger 5OO
2024-08-31 02:28:32 +0000 UTCGreek Gods are immortal and can not die, I know Jay is changing some things/doing his interpretation of how things work (like how his misunderstanding of floating island became “Island in the sky”), but I doubt he would kill a god. (But he did kill Polites early, best boi was supposed to be snatched by Scylla, I’m scared to underestimate him)
William Watson
2024-08-31 02:24:14 +0000 UTCMy one problem is that Athena should have bled golden ichor, the blood of the gods, not red blood. Idk why little things like that bug me so much.
William Watson
2024-08-31 02:15:58 +0000 UTCWhen does Casper’s reaction to the animatics come out on OAR????
Sammantha Lloyd
2024-08-31 02:01:59 +0000 UTCNo one can read you for filth like your sibling. Related: Ares - "Pathetic and weak like his son" Athena- "and I took that personally"
Anon E. Mouse
2024-08-31 01:51:16 +0000 UTCThat ending.... worth the extra just to get that
DnD Addict
2024-08-31 00:36:15 +0000 UTCBest girl Warmother stood on business.
Dunning Kruger Fxs
2024-08-31 00:09:56 +0000 UTCUnless Jorge twisted a lot of mythos, no Athena isn't dead but she did get the shit knocked out of her (unsure how else to phrase that lol) and is probably out of commission for a bit, is my guess? I mean, they did make a point of saying 'Goddesses can't die' with Calypso which I doubt was an accident.
Kristina (LadyGreensleeves33)
2024-08-30 23:52:15 +0000 UTCYour end face was pretty much everyone when that stream ended
Sleepy.novatea
2024-08-30 23:26:19 +0000 UTCWhen I tell you those of us on the livestream were DESTROYED and you know what Jalepeno did?!?! HE LAUGHED we all said he's getting the invoices for therapy and it was just EXCUSE ME?! Hello that's not the end right Jay? ....right? And then he thanked us for watching said he loved us and just LEFTTTT IM NOT OKAY but I know Athena didn't die, Calypso specifically said Goddesses can't die and I believe that's 10000% intentional
ManiacKuzco
2024-08-30 23:20:17 +0000 UTCJorge: who's animating this? Everyone:yes
Phoenix Mackenzie
2024-08-30 23:07:17 +0000 UTCI feel like Jorge was like "hey guys god games is coming up who wants to animate it?" And everyone put there hands up
Eep
2024-08-30 23:00:06 +0000 UTCAll I'm saying is Athena learned Polites way of life with light sooo who was really wrong in the end? But yea I'm worried too I hope she's just sleeping I refuse to believe her light went out. There's so many thoughts running thru my mind what could be next The what saga has returned lol Can't wait to see Casper's reaction to this once you show him in Open Arms 💕
Zakksu
2024-08-30 22:03:15 +0000 UTCThe switch to trumpets at the end of the song and Athenas pleading was absolutely masterful and broke me
Jimmy Toad
2024-08-30 21:56:53 +0000 UTCAthena earlier mentioned Ody’s light went dark. Now it ends with her light going out? Im baffled.
alaan vanderveer
2024-08-30 21:02:50 +0000 UTCYou got a point. Its worse when you remember Telemachus thinks of Athena as a friend then this happens. I don't know if Telemachus has any other friends (not in a rude way) but if not, he could've lost his only friend
Oceanna Denham
2024-08-30 21:00:48 +0000 UTCBut that's mortal Vs god, not god Vs god let alone king of the gods Vs god
Phoenix Mackenzie
2024-08-30 20:34:25 +0000 UTCI love the idea of framing "God Games" like the levels of an actual video game, where each boss is more difficult than the last. Apollo and Hephaestus as early bosses who are fairly easy to overcome. Aphrodite and Ares acting as a dual boss fight to ramp up the difficulty. Hera, whose battle comes in a few phases, and finally, Zeus as the impossible boss who you're not meant to beat. One thing I really would have loved for Jorge to include for Apollo, however, is the fact that Apollo backed the Trojans during the war. He HEAVILY favoured Hector, whose death Athena had a hand in, (she tricked Hector into believing she was one of his brothers and would help him fight Achilles,) and whose son we know Odysseus murdered. With that in mind, Hephaestus honestly probably should have been "Level 1" here. He was on the Achaeans' side during the war, so he doesn't have much beef with either Athena or Odysseus, other than being rejected by Athena at one point. (Y'know, if I had a nickel for every time a musical based on a classic piece of literature used video game boss framing in the latter half of the musical and ended in tears, I'd have two nickels, but...)
Macabrellian
2024-08-30 20:27:21 +0000 UTCJorge told Gwendy to do that because Athena's whole arc was gaining Humanity
Tyler Owens
2024-08-30 19:55:10 +0000 UTCIt's not. Jorge told Gwendy to do that because Athena's whole arc was gaining Humanity
Tyler Owens
2024-08-30 19:54:22 +0000 UTCAnother fun little detail, is the piano melody during the 20 year flashback at the tail end of the first half of it, flips from being warrior of the mind, to legendary. then it goes back to warrior of the mind with all of the other instruments joining in.
LegoDM
2024-08-30 19:45:57 +0000 UTCI forgot til I rewatched Mortius reaction but thank you. Still, it's very sad
Oceanna Denham
2024-08-30 19:28:45 +0000 UTCBut calypso specifically said "last I checked goddesses can't die" and that feels really intentional
Alphabetical
2024-08-30 19:27:33 +0000 UTCMy #1 question is why on earth is Athena bleeding red?
Alphabetical
2024-08-30 19:24:54 +0000 UTCYeah, I assume the lack of ichor was just an oversight on the animator's part.
Macabrellian
2024-08-30 19:20:30 +0000 UTCBTW this is fully my headcanon, but I think Poseidon would want to release Odysseus just to kill him. Or at least give him another good beating.
Emily
2024-08-30 19:17:50 +0000 UTCThat's exactly it and when it comes to Calypso's line I think she meant if a mortal tries to kill a god. Now here's the question - Can a god kill a god? King of gods no less?
Emily
2024-08-30 19:16:46 +0000 UTCI hate to be That Guy™, but in the interest of spreading the mythology love around: The sacred cattle don't belong to Apollo, they belong to Helios; Apollo was not considered to be the sun god at the time Homer's Odyssey was written. His domain at the time included music, prophecy, archery, and healing/disease. Also, I don't recall Anticlea having any connection to Aphrodite, but Aphrodite WAS on the Trojans' side during the war and Odysseus' close friend, Diomedes, is someone she MOST DEFINITELY has beef with.
Macabrellian
2024-08-30 19:16:20 +0000 UTCThere’s absolutely NO SHOT Athena is dead, she’s a freaking Olympian! Although, did anyone else find it weird she bled red instead of gold?
Scorpius27
2024-08-30 19:07:19 +0000 UTCit wasnt even apollo's cows. it was helios's cows. apollo wasnt the god of the sun yet during the oddyssey. he only gained the position sometime later in history after the supposed era epic is in.
ShadowFox1412
2024-08-30 18:59:02 +0000 UTCWith the exception of Zeus himself (and to a much lesser extent - Apollo already got justice for his cows), almost none of these gods have ever interacted with Odysseus, so they're not invested at all. Even Aphrodite only has a connection to him through his mother, and Ares afaik never interfered with Ody during the entire 10 years of the Trojan war. Really his beef seems more directly with Athena than Ody. So for most of them, given the parameters Zeus set, all they *need* is just a rebuttal to a point. Easy-peasy.
J Seaborg
2024-08-30 18:40:35 +0000 UTCMan I cried so much 😭
J
2024-08-30 18:14:30 +0000 UTCBecause it's just seen as silly mortal antics, nothing that important or noteworthy for gods
The Feywild
2024-08-30 18:13:38 +0000 UTCTo me, some of the gods (Apollo especially) being very easy to convince shows how they don't ACTUALLY care that much, they just have a mild disagreement, and when Athena counters it, they're like "alright, shit, I didn't really care anyway, sure, release him" That's just what I got though
The Feywild
2024-08-30 18:12:32 +0000 UTCWill you watch the animatics for the snippets of God Games?
Султан .Бахытжанов
2024-08-30 18:08:12 +0000 UTCAthena is just a lil eepy
StrangeBrian
2024-08-30 18:04:05 +0000 UTCHera is Zeus’ much betrayed wife. Athena used the perfect argument to prove Odysseus’ worth. Yes, the ending - with Zeus reneging on his “game” - s##ks.
Dorothy Rosenberg
2024-08-30 17:49:31 +0000 UTCGod games is basically a boss rush with each boss getting more difficult
Jacob Minger
2024-08-30 17:42:35 +0000 UTCI mean, Athena does try to convince the gods to release Odysseus, though it’s not a full on battle.
MildlyPerturbed
2024-08-30 17:19:38 +0000 UTCI filmed my reaction of the wisdom saga and I had the exact same reaction to the end. I sat in silence for 10-15 seconds and then said what the f-
Lauren Hedman
2024-08-30 16:52:59 +0000 UTCyeah thats my same reactions
MJ
2024-08-30 16:50:59 +0000 UTCAlso quick thought from the previous video... "She is the only friend he didn't SAW die" and I imidietely went "well he did not SEE her die..." >_>
NeNo
2024-08-30 16:41:16 +0000 UTCI told ya, your therapy bill will grow after this one... I made a mitake of watching the livestream at work and thank god I worked from home today xD
NeNo
2024-08-30 16:19:22 +0000 UTCAnniflamma’s original Hera animatic was one of the things that got me into the fandom originally, I love that Anni was able to put a new spin on it!!!
CyberCrow
2024-08-30 15:50:23 +0000 UTCI don’t think Zeus will get the best father of the year award No Athena dosent die in the Odyssey and tbh the whole “God Games” arent in the Odyssey Regarding EPIC tho Calypso sayed “Last i checked godsses cant die” so i don’t think shes dead but EPIC the musical has strayed from Odyssey before so we never know
Leonidas
2024-08-30 15:41:36 +0000 UTCwhat I loved about this animation, it kinda matches what tyre said in the god of war games. that for gods of war, they speak through battle, fighting keeps their bodies occupied, while their minds do the rest. also classic siblings of punching each other over talking
Halfknight
2024-08-30 15:34:02 +0000 UTCTrust me, when Athena died (I think she died), I bawled. I'm still hugging my owl plushie mentally breaking. If you need a hug, I'm here with open arms
Oceanna Denham
2024-08-30 15:18:29 +0000 UTC