FINISHING HADESTOWN - Songs 36-40 (fixed audio)
Added 2024-10-09 16:58:00 +0000 UTC6:20 - Wait For Me Il Intro
11:25 - Wait For Me Reprise
21:50 - Doubt Comes In
43:40 - Road To Hell Reprise
59:50 - We Raise Our Cups
Comments
If you want the defense of who he is: when doubt came in, as it does for us all, all he could see was the girl who, when stuff got into the hard bits noped out.
Amanda Caudle
2025-02-19 08:25:20 +0000 UTCAlso this entire episode is the “Orpheus, buddy” saga
Amanda Caudle
2025-02-19 08:06:29 +0000 UTCMe, with a kid (he is 12) who is obsessed with Epic and has watched your entire series with me so I joined here because you meant so much to me…with a “but we sing it anyway” tattoo on my forearm IN MY KID’S HANDWRITING because *generational trauma* and UNPREPARED.
Amanda Caudle
2025-02-16 08:59:01 +0000 UTCI was lucky enough to be at the last performance with the full original cast- Amber Gray's (OG Persephone) last night. There was standing room only and the energy was off the CHARTS. What an experience!
Moriah Nutt
2024-11-18 03:29:33 +0000 UTCYou did, in fact, just get the whole point 😂
Deb
2024-11-13 21:32:32 +0000 UTCThank you for this journey.
Dorothy Rosenberg
2024-11-10 00:03:57 +0000 UTCI wanted to comment on this with Wait For Me in Act 1 but needed to wait til now. But as others have said, with the end of the show "resetting" and they go to sing it again. I view Hermes, as the overall narrator, is the main actor to break the fourth wall. You mentioned back then that Hermes seemed weirdly hostile to Orpheus, I view that as him bumping the fourth wall as a sort of "here we go, the story is still a tragedy." Maybe I'm wrong but it's the interpretation I got. Love these reactions Mortius! Thanks for checking out the show!
Tyler Harding
2024-11-09 03:42:26 +0000 UTCPersephone actually had a verse addressing Eurydice in Chant II in the Off-Broadway version, but they unfortunately cut it. However, they do have a lot of silent communication in the stage show, lingering glances and small touches. It makes sense: they're both the women suffering under Hades' obsession (and to an extent, Orpheus' too) and that builds a kind of bond
Cinder
2024-11-07 16:58:38 +0000 UTCDidn't we all comment that? Many people did, at least. That lyric is also in the opening song!
Cinder
2024-11-07 16:35:26 +0000 UTC"It's already heartbreaking and I haven't even pressed play yet" If that ain't a MOOD
Cinder
2024-11-07 16:26:35 +0000 UTCWhite lilies and red poppies are also both associated with death, which is a recurring theme in the musical
Cinder
2024-11-07 14:26:25 +0000 UTCExcited for the wife video
Skwid Mayer
2024-11-03 04:06:14 +0000 UTCI need you to watch the live action recordings. You would love the stage and the choreography and the lights ahhhhhh
Skwid Mayer
2024-11-03 04:05:10 +0000 UTCEverytime I remember they cut that, i explode. they shouldve kept it in its so good.
Ratatosk Clarke
2024-11-03 02:15:45 +0000 UTCAlso because. they are LITERALLY going to sing it again. Every night.
Ratatosk Clarke
2024-11-03 02:05:38 +0000 UTCIts also because its the same staging and eurydice says “anyone got a match? give me that” in her first song in act I
Ratatosk Clarke
2024-11-03 02:03:57 +0000 UTCthe finale scene I always interpreted as the musical starting over again. Orpheus and Eurydice are seeing each other for the first time… again. It’s like she’s a stranger he’s always known.
Ratatosk Clarke
2024-11-03 02:03:00 +0000 UTCYES PLEASE!! I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Francis Gregory
2024-11-02 19:54:36 +0000 UTCI can’t tell you how devastating Doubt Comes In is in the live performance. The silence was so loud and was only broken by sniffles from the audience. It’s almost as if we all gasped with her and all grieved with him.
Virginia Harrison
2024-10-29 20:11:02 +0000 UTCIf you do the rewatch with your wife, I definitely recommend watching the live version of this show, I think there are a few "slime tutorials" that have the original cast (the two at the end only had a few remaining original cast members (side side note, the actress who played Persephone was originally one of the fates)) and I think watching with the OG cast that you've been listening to via the soundtrack would be amazing. The new cast is also amazing don't get me wrong, but seeing the OG cast during the the performance is something else.
Kassie Metivier
2024-10-27 00:35:06 +0000 UTCWould you consider comparing Eva’s first/recording of Wait For Me (Reprise) and her final performance? It was pretty viral on TikTok for awhile when she left the show and it was beautiful!
Bailey Schmidt
2024-10-24 15:33:28 +0000 UTCMy biggest issue with this myth is that there’s 4 outcomes rolling around Orpheus’ head. 1: he keeps going and she’s there(the good one) 2: he keeps going and Hades played a trick and she’s not there(the bad one) 3: he turns around and loses her 4: he turns around and she isn’t there. In ALL of these, only ONE results in them both making it out. turning around guarantees she won’t, no matter what. And that’s so frustrating to me. Keep going is a 50/50. Turn around and you lose, period.
Ethan Schwenzer
2024-10-23 00:44:29 +0000 UTCMortius, I loved following this series! I suggest you watch the a live version of this musical (a 'slime tutorial') or at least Doubt Comes In so you can get the whole vibe :D
Chaotic Disc Management
2024-10-21 13:54:32 +0000 UTCNot only that, but this time Persephone is there in the background, showing that spring has come! The setting changes, even as it stays the same, and with that, the story changes, even as it stays the same. Who can say which part will be the change, and what will stay the same? Maybe this time...
Bookclubish
2024-10-20 10:57:37 +0000 UTCI don´t know if anyone already answered, but Eurydice not talking is in the original myth a condition from Hades. Orpheus must walk and not look behind and Eurydice must follow silently behind him.
aj knows
2024-10-20 07:23:12 +0000 UTCApparently in some live performances of Doubt Comes In, Eurydice actually finishes her line instead of gasping
Zane C
2024-10-20 06:09:10 +0000 UTCThe story is resetting at the end. They will sing it again and again and again. BUT notice that in THIS iteration, Eurydice already has a flower in her pocket, meaning something has changed this time. And maybe, just maybe, if they sing it enough times, then THIS time, it will turn out different....
miriam kupfer
2024-10-20 05:02:28 +0000 UTCAND “some flowers bloom……. but the ones that bloom in the bitter snow” you mean like the onE ORPHEUS MADE FOR EURYDICE. IN WEDDING SONG. AAAAAAAAAAaaaauuuggggghhhhh my heart…. 🥲
Ainsleigh McCue
2024-10-14 21:22:58 +0000 UTCthere’s also a wonderful video of amber gray (persephone’s BVA) singing We Raise Our Cups on her last night in hadestown. it’s also from closer to the stage, and as such is easier to understand
Ainsleigh McCue
2024-10-14 21:17:29 +0000 UTCa note about flower symbolism: the flower orpheus makes is a red carnation (deep romantic love), and in Flowers, eurydice sings about white lilies (purity and rebirth) and red poppies (sleep and remembering, which she is trying to not do and do respectively)
Ainsleigh McCue
2024-10-14 21:13:26 +0000 UTCin an earlier iteration of Doubt Comes In, eurydice says “you’re early” and orpheus says “i missed you” (like hades + persephone in Way Down Hadestown)
Ainsleigh McCue
2024-10-14 20:40:05 +0000 UTCRealizing that in (most of) "Doubt Comes In," you can hear the smile in Eurydice's voice. After what he did for her, in & before Hadestown, she believes in Orpheus so completely that she's not scared to hope anymore.
Bean of Glory
2024-10-13 05:41:52 +0000 UTCMORTIUS you need to watch Reeve’s final bows/the speeches they give him. You will cry.
Maria Harrington
2024-10-12 17:57:21 +0000 UTCMortius! Please listen to the live version of Wait for Me Reprise! Eva’s voice really makes it so much more powerful!
Maria Harrington
2024-10-12 17:31:45 +0000 UTCMortius, im sorry to inform you the finale was setting up to tell you the story again of Orpheus and Eurydice tragic love story. They are going to sing it again and again unending
PhoenyxFyre
2024-10-11 16:16:00 +0000 UTCMortius, MORTIUS, watch the live version of come home with me and their wedding song-- it has SUCH beautiful choreography
Winter Storm
2024-10-11 05:52:01 +0000 UTCI’ve always interpreted the end as kind of hopeful. Especially the lines about how we sing it again and again hoping the ending will change as an illusion to reincarnation. That Orpheus and Eurydice are born again and again, reliving their lives slight differently. Hopefully ending happier this time.
Nashira Sidus
2024-10-10 20:43:11 +0000 UTCWhat!! That's so good oh my god thank you for sharing this fact
Nika
2024-10-10 18:28:20 +0000 UTCI don’t think the Doubt Comes In animatic encapsulates the darkness and loneliness that the stage production does. The stage is almost completely pitch black and Orpheus cannot hear Eurydice. He is wholly alone except for his thoughts and the fates in his head. It’s some of the most beautiful staging I’ve ever seen how they all appear and disappear constantly around Orpheus. Hence the line “Where is she?” Because he cannot hear her. And the addition of the lights in the animatic is not what happens on the stage. It’s much more eerie and the moment where he turns around is much more dramatic because it’s been so dark the whole time
Tamara Morriss
2024-10-10 13:25:59 +0000 UTCIn the stage show it's very clear that he cannot hear Eurydice at all in Doubt Comes In. Like she's trying her hardest to reach out to him, but can't.
Colleen
2024-10-10 01:22:09 +0000 UTCI'm pretty sure there is a scene between Persephone and Eurydice in the beginning of ACT 2 before "our lady of the upside down" which is why P snarkily starts with "Step into my office" because hades interrupted them and brought E into his office.- You didn't react to it and i think it was just dialogue between them so i think this is the first time they have sang together- but for a lil context thought that would be useful :)
Lexi Rasmussen
2024-10-09 23:11:58 +0000 UTCI definitly took this as the motif writers do where they repeat the beginning in the end, kinda like if you've ever read the outsiders, where the first line and the last line are the same because the main character 'wrote' the story and it was what lead to him writing it- that kind of repetition is here as the choreography for the Road to Hell is duplicated in this ending version, as in an infinite loop or retelling in the hopes that it will turn out this better this time.
Lexi Rasmussen
2024-10-09 23:03:19 +0000 UTCIf you want a little uplifting fact. The OBC Orpheus (Reeve Carney) & Eurydice (Eva Noblezada) fell in love during their time together on the show and are a couple. So at least in our world, one version of Orpheus did get to bring Eurydice back home with him <3
Rowan
2024-10-09 22:28:35 +0000 UTCNot-so-fun-fact: instead of repeating the "it's you" "it's me" "Orpheus" "Eurydice" lines at the end of Doubt Comes in, earlier versions had Eurydice say "You're early" and Orpheus say "I missed you." As much as i love the parallels, this is one of the changes I am actually thankful for because I do NOT need that level of heartbreak in my life
XanEcho
2024-10-09 22:19:42 +0000 UTCIf you ever want to just sob like crazy, go find a recording of Amber Gray's final We Raise Our Cups. I still haven't been able to make it through because I'm crying too hard.
Kerri Kortness
2024-10-09 21:54:33 +0000 UTCI think it was a patron that said that in the comments
Beauxe
2024-10-09 21:02:40 +0000 UTCOh my gosh, Im so excited for the extra video of you and your wife!! This is my favorite musical and I would watch people experience it forever 😂😅
Lauren Groen
2024-10-09 19:41:46 +0000 UTCI think it's saying that the story is starting again. Not that they're changing it. The whole song redoes lyrics and staging from the first song. Eurydice getting the match again, Orpheus enters in the same way and looks at Eurydice again. Everything begging again... And we know it's a tragedy. We know it's not gonna end well for them... But we sing it again, as if it might turn out this time...
Lauren Groen
2024-10-09 19:32:03 +0000 UTCThere are so many versions of "why" he turns. Sometimes it's she trips and he turns to catch her, sometimes he makes it out and turns but she is not over the threshold yet. But I think in this version (even if the staging kinda leans toward him turning with him being out and she's not yet.) it is a valid read to take this as a mental health tale. The dark thoughts in him won, his anxiety won, and I don't think I can blame him for that... 🫤😞
Lauren Groen
2024-10-09 19:10:23 +0000 UTCThat's a perplexing staging choice in that tour, to turn Orpheus' look-back from 'doubt overcoming his hope in a moment of weakness' to 'he never doubted enough to look back and just made an overeager mistake'
Bean of Glory
2024-10-09 19:08:08 +0000 UTCThe very line of 'we sing it again' and the look Orpheus and Eurydice share at the end, I personally see it as Hermes hoping that this time Orpheus will make it and not look back. It is a sad song and Hermes and the audience know it. But Orpheus attempted to defy fate and death. I believe he inspired Hermes to also try that. So he will continue to sing this song until Orpheus gets it right
Connor Peters
2024-10-09 19:02:51 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite things about this show live is how immersive the staging is. Besides the turntables and the band staying on stage as characters themselves, the use of lighting and temperature allow the audience to really feel the atmospheric differences between being in hadestown vs above ground. During the Wait For Me Reprise, the miners’ headlamps and mining equipment are SO bright that you can feel the heat radiating off the stage during the climax of the song.
Natttwenty
2024-10-09 18:44:48 +0000 UTCThe circular nature of this show destroys me every time. What you miss not seeing the show is that at the end they are resetting the stage and the staging to how it opens and singing about doing it again. Just like Hermes says at the opening and the end. Even knowing the show and the story it hits and is devastating every time
Riley Taylor
2024-10-09 18:39:20 +0000 UTCIn the tour that I saw Orpheus reached the over world and turned to celebrate with Eurydice but she wasn’t out yet so she went back. Also Andre De Shields won his Tony many times over for his performance of Hermes. His state presence is incredible
Riley Taylor
2024-10-09 18:33:06 +0000 UTCAlso a secondary headcannon of mine is at the end when they're seeing each other again instead of a new loop, it's Orpheus and euredoces reuniting in the underworld as in the old myth, Orpheus spends the rest of his life singing sad songs until he is drowned and then they walk and sing together by the rivers foe the rest of time
Christopher Heredia
2024-10-09 18:30:57 +0000 UTCThe ending feels very metaphorical to me. Like an acknowledgment that art. Singing. Music. Creation. That fixes the world. The very act of being brave enough to create brings spring. With a love song. And we must celebrate those who sing despite the darkness.
Broody Gaming
2024-10-09 18:27:13 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite headcannons for this musical is that all versions of the musical are narrated by Hermes as a way of trying different ways to make a happier ending so he loops the events and interacts slightly ever so often to change the way the story ends. It would be why the songs evolve and change though keep the same base, Hermes introduced Orpheus and eurydoces earlier here and in other versions they've been a couple and even work alongside each other. Look at how tired and angry he gets in this version, how many times has he had to go through the same events over and over and over again. He's can chose to look any way he wants but here he shows how much of an old tale it is by his visible age.
Christopher Heredia
2024-10-09 18:27:07 +0000 UTCWhen Orpheus sings his epic lalalalas in "Doubt Comes In," whereas he's always been backed by other voices and big, bolstering orchestrals, there is dead silence this time. Nothing but his own percussive heartbeat in response. It emphasizes his first-ever experience of 'alone.' To clarify, too, Orpheus could not hear Eurydice (or the miners hoping to make it out by following them). She's calling out to someone who's barred from hearing her, hoping that it makes it through to him somehow. Bc you're right, that would make this trial way too easy if he could hear XD This animatic for "Doubt Comes In" is very tender, which I think softens the impact a bit - in the animation, the couple comforts and reassures each other after his decision to turn around. The staging is more unforgiving (in terms of our feels). LATER EDIT -- oh. As you immediately see, because you have a live continuation to react to, heh. Heh. Sob.
Bean of Glory
2024-10-09 18:25:58 +0000 UTCAlso the idea about Orpheus' song to bring the world back into tune, and the fact that the only way it could ever be finished or could ever bring the seasons back, was for Eurydice to die, and him to bring his song to the gods to bring her back. The idea that he could never finish the song and bring the world back for her, that it was his destiny to remind the gods of their love, and Eurydice's Destiny to die and lead Orpheus down to hadestown. Its the depressing truth of the story, and we see that is the reason for the fates involvement throughout the story, they are the antagonistic force of the entire story, pushing and pulling the story and it's characters onto the path that will lead to Orpheus fulfilling his fate of bringing back spring. But we watch the story unfold and we want the fates to fail, we want Orpheus to just drop the song to just live with Eurydice and be happy.... But that's not the story we're in. It's why you hate the fates so much, and why they are the truest "villains" of the story. The reason they tormented Eurydice her whole life, they had to ensure she suffered and died for the sake of Orpheus' song. And the reason they tear Orpheus apart on his journey back out, I imagine, is in order to ensure he fails and that the souls of the underworld stay, and aren't let free by Orpheus succeeding his trial. That's my belief as to why the fates continue to sow doubts in his mind even after spring returns, because him succeeding and leading the souls free doesn't fit in their tapestry of what they have chosen for the fate of the world. This show is very sad :(
Vanilla Degenerate
2024-10-09 18:11:49 +0000 UTCWhile we're talking about the actors, this would also take a LOT out of Eva Noblezada: she would play Eurydice day after day, and time after time bring herself as her character to hope so hard and then fall into the depths of despair. A behind-the-scenes bit that I've seen had her sobbing backstage in Act II. Accessing that terrible, raw part of yourself eight times a week - that's rough.
Bean of Glory
2024-10-09 18:04:49 +0000 UTCSo the center of the stage raises and lowers. It's used to show when characters descend to/arrive in Hadestown. Also, you are correct. The stage does rotate. There's also a REALLY cool thing that happens during Wait For Me that I don't want to spoil.
Kerri Kortness
2024-10-09 18:04:38 +0000 UTCThe audience gasps along with Eurydice. Every. Single. Time. Them starting the story over again, this time with spring coming on time, gives me hope. One of these days, he'll get her out of there. But for now, even his failure brought a better world for everyone. Anais Mitchell is such a genius. Amber Gray, OBC Persephone, compared it to nudging the needle in activism with the faith that the next generation will continue the fight and the next Orpheus won't turn around. The story of Orpheus losing faith is a warning that we must not lose ours, that cynicism serves the ends of tyrants. But I can't blame Orpheus. This boy was so traumatized by everything that happened to him just during this show, not to mention the Fridge Realization I had that he'd already been abandoned by his mother. Excited for you to watch the show proper. You'll get a better idea of how heavily ND-coded Orpheus really is.
Amy Golightly
2024-10-09 18:04:35 +0000 UTCOne thing about the staging- the staging at the start and end of the play is almost identical- it's kind of implied that each time the play is performed is part of a loop
XanEcho
2024-10-09 18:02:43 +0000 UTCI honestly think that in Wait For Me Reprise Hades *hopes* that they can make it. Because while it's just the miners singing the "show the way" refrains, if Hades can see a couple that can trust in each that much, maybe he could trust Persephone again. If Orpheus and Eurydice love each other through betrayal, maybe Persephone could love him through the pain he's put her through. It's just this really pained, hopeful song on all fronts from my point of view.
Eliška Svobodová
2024-10-09 17:58:14 +0000 UTCI think an aspect I really like about this show is the sort of meta narrative angle to the story. Because we arent just watching a play about Orpheus and Eurydice. We're watching a cast of actors telling the story, day after day after day. It's not just Orpheus and Hermes, it's actors playing the parts of Orpheus and Hermes. And every day they start the story again, another performance, another telling in which they desperately hope this one will be different. Maybe THIS time Orpheus won't turn around, maybe THIS time Eurydice won't sell her soul, maybe THIS time Orpheus will notice and save Eurydice from freezing and starving to death. But it never happens, and it never will... But we hope, we try again and again and again, and we tell the story in the hopes it will be different but knowing that it won't. It's a tragedy, but we sing it anyway. That's also why I think the show has that depression era dust bowl Americana aesthetic, these actors and storytellers have been telling this story, every day, over and over, the show has changed it's setting and face countless times, but even with a different look, it will always end in tragedy, the fates will ensure it.
Vanilla Degenerate
2024-10-09 17:56:35 +0000 UTCIt feels too early in the morning to be this emotionally devastated hahaha. Loving ur reactions. Haven’t finished this one yet. I just adore this musical so much. It feels like such a celebration of why we tell stories. We KNOW HOW IT ENDS and still decide to sing it again is so gods damned powerful.
Broody Gaming
2024-10-09 17:38:26 +0000 UTCI was gonna just leave this comment on the previous upload before I saw that there was a new one haha I've only gotten into Hadestown recently so I'm not an expert but something I've been thinking about is that the lack of Spring and Autumn isn't just due to the timing of Hades keeping and getting Persephone, it's also that, as her song says, "when you're up you're up, when you're down you're down", she isn't allowing herself to have hope in her dark moments or doubts in her happy moments, she's either miserable in hell or happy as a clam on top. Spring and Autumn return because she finally snaps out and rather than drink herself blind while in Hadestown, she actually stands up for Orpheus and tries to mend her relationship to Hades in whatever small ways she can. She can finally see hope and begin a transition back to a healthier love, returning spring.
Nika
2024-10-09 17:37:55 +0000 UTC"Are we gonna try again?" "It's almost spring- we'll try again next fall" never fails to get me. Regardless of Orpheus failing to bring Eurydice home, he DID succeed in bringing the world back into tune
XanEcho
2024-10-09 17:35:39 +0000 UTCWhen I saw it on broadway, when Orpheus turned around, this drunk lady in the audience scream “nooo!” Sooo loud. 🤣 And there was definitely a second where everyone kind of checked like, ‘that wasn’t me right?’ Bc we were all thinking it
Mikayla Prushik
2024-10-09 17:27:19 +0000 UTCYippee (❁´◡`❁)! Already watched the original, but want to get the full experience with ya. Also fun fact: in the stage production during epic III, when Orpheus sings "what you're defending is already gone" Hades sends Persephone a panicked look to check if she's still there. It's implied or at the very least heavily speculated, that that's why he gave Orpheus the impossible task of leading Eurydice out of the underworld without looking back. Because he knows he couldn't have done it, without looking back to check on Persephone, either. Anyways have a good night/day! ＼ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ／
everyonesfavoritearoace
2024-10-09 17:12:24 +0000 UTC🙌🙌🙌
Francis Gregory
2024-10-09 17:07:58 +0000 UTCFast fix!!! Woohoo!
Logan Anderson
2024-10-09 17:01:29 +0000 UTC
