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Let’s not forget that Angel has still spent more of his life evil than he has good. Angel ate Holtz’s baby son. (Angel and Darla probably ripped the baby in half playfully fighting over him.) Conner seems like a mostly good kid, just angsty. Don’t forget his first action in this world was defending that girl from thugs.
Richard Lucas
2018-12-16 00:28:50 +0000 UTC
“I’ll takr away your bucket” is one of the darkest and funniest moments I think I’ve ever seen on TV.
Richard Lucas
2018-12-16 00:21:03 +0000 UTC
I like Conner. There’s only one character in the entire Buffyverse that I’ve just viscerally not liked, and it would be a spoiler so I can’t say yet. I’m looking forward to watching this character again though to see if I can let go of some of my probably unreasonable hate from the original run.
Richard Lucas
2018-12-16 00:19:17 +0000 UTC
This episode was actually much better than I remembered it. In fact, the whole endgame of Season Three and into this episode made more sense on a second viewing. The Cordy thing still isn't great, and Conner himself is sort of annoying. But at least the story makes more sense than I thought.
Andrew Pulrang
2018-12-08 02:32:24 +0000 UTC
I agree, I love season 4
Einar Sigurðsson
2018-12-06 12:46:28 +0000 UTC
I happen to be a fan of Connor and I thoroughly enjoy Season 4. I never knew people had such opposite reactions until I went online to read opinions after I finished AtS.
Lisa Irv
2018-12-01 23:10:45 +0000 UTC
Connor is the worst Buffyverse character and this is the worst Buffyverse season. It will all be over soon and then Season 5 (which is AMAZING) will be there for you to enjoy.
2018-12-01 14:32:30 +0000 UTC
Season 4 has extreme highs and lows. Its lows are bottom of the barrel awful. Its highs are so satisfying. It's an odd one, but in my view it's an integral part of the series.
Will Crow
2018-12-01 09:00:53 +0000 UTC
ASR 'Mutterings...I don't even word'. You should put that on a t-shirt and sell it...or at least a meme.
raymond julien
2018-11-30 11:07:25 +0000 UTC
Shannan, I know you weren't fond of Angel season 3, but trust me, season 4 is the best one. In my opinion it's the best season in entire Buffyverse.
Scarlett Monrow
2018-11-30 10:04:46 +0000 UTC
You don't like Connor?! WTH?
I'm just kidding. I think it's barely possible to like Connor. He spent his entire life being indoctrinated to believe that Angel was evil. I also blame the writers for not being more careful to make his POV make sense.
UTU49
2018-11-30 05:37:26 +0000 UTC
i thought it was sweet that angel included wes in his family feast fantasy at the beginning of the episode.
cil
2018-11-30 03:29:55 +0000 UTC
Connor is annoying and immature but it makes sense for his character to be annoying and immature. I feel like a lot of people dislike Connor for the same reason they dislike Dawn - it was a "jump the shark" moment for both shows.
Personally, I find Connor way more tolerable than Dawn up until like season 7 of Buffy when she starts maturing a little.
Second_Strike
2018-11-30 03:24:17 +0000 UTC
I can see why people don't like Connor, but... I kind of do. (I may be the only person, but I'm okay with that.)
FernWithy
2018-11-30 03:16:22 +0000 UTC
I always found it cool and creepy that Wes left...
Ans then Lorne left.
And then Groo left.
And then Cordie left.
And then Angel sunk.
Where the @#$% is everyone?
UTU49
2018-11-30 02:38:53 +0000 UTC
Season 4 is a bizarre and polarizing season. It's quite a ride though so I'm sure your reactions to it will be quite interesting.
cil
2018-11-30 02:36:42 +0000 UTC
Premier feature? Does that mean that everyone can watch it stream as it uploads? Any way, it's a way for people to all watch it at the same time. Right?
UTU49
2018-11-30 02:29:10 +0000 UTC
I've always thought of the Wesley/Lilah coupling as something similar to S6 Buffy/Spike. Both Buffy and Wesley are going through a form of mental devastation, and they feel abandoned and alone, and Spike and Lilah, respectively, are convenient. They're also representative of everything the heroes are supposed to hate.
sarah biggs
2018-11-30 01:30:17 +0000 UTC
ASR: "This is so icky...I don't like it"
Said Granny ASR during every sex scene ever. ;)
There are two moments in this reaction I absolutely love:
1) Wesley opening his closet door and the stunned "What?!" that follows it as ASR's image of him is shattered into a million pieces. This is truly the moment that BtVS S3's bumbling, clueless Wesley is slain and his corpse dismembered.
2) "I'll take away your bucket." Wesley 2.0 coalesces and Shan is impressed.
3) Okay, I lied, there's lots of moments I love in this reaction. Number 3 is "Aww, man! I hate this!" ASR impressions: frequently awful, always Aussie, forever funny. Pure win.
MittenCrab
2018-11-30 00:27:36 +0000 UTC
I'm not surprised you got mixed opinions about season 4. Personally I think it has some of the best but also some of the worst storylines in the whole show. And yeah, I don't think there's a soul out there who actually likes Connor. Not even Dawn in her worst moments comes close to how annoying this guy can be...
Clara V.
2018-11-30 00:04:22 +0000 UTC
The MC Escher line was funny, but unfortunately he was Angel, not Angelus, when he got sucked into Hell via Acathla
Brendan O'Connor
2018-11-30 00:03:26 +0000 UTC
Finally watched the video, i love this season and i actually like connor, i understand why he did those things to Angel and his friends, Angel made the right choise to sent connor away, he is not from their world, he was trained to hate and kill demons, and he was raised by holtz so i didn't expect anything else from him.
Anouar
2018-11-29 23:36:04 +0000 UTC
Season 4 is my least favorite of the show. It is very reaction worthy, though.
Fizzy
2018-11-29 22:57:27 +0000 UTC
I was finally able to forgive Vincent for being Connor when I watched Mad Men
Ryan
2018-11-29 21:36:14 +0000 UTC
And thus begins my least favourite season... for reasons I won't say until we've reached a certain point because spoilers..
I really don't like Connor. To this day, Vincent Kartheiser bothers me because of him being Connor, which is totally unfair, I know.
I love Cordelia. Love her!! She's my third favourite in the whole Buffyverse. Spike and Anya ahead of her.
Excited to see your take on this season
Signe (Seena) Stewart
2018-11-29 20:33:08 +0000 UTC
Great reaction, Fred has step it up this eps.
Emma goldsbrough
2018-11-29 20:27:18 +0000 UTC
Angel's still cool but at this point I'm leaning toward team Wesley.
Magically-Delicious
2018-11-29 19:54:07 +0000 UTC
Is it... Shes not Justine?
Bisibia
2018-11-29 19:43:48 +0000 UTC
I said this was the episode where I'd post my Kate defense and I meant it. But it's gonna be on the YouTube cut. Not here.
Chris Peacock
2018-11-29 19:17:07 +0000 UTC
I had to download it or you can wait until you can watch it.. not sure how long that’ll be though unfortunately
Kelly Marie
2018-11-29 17:58:36 +0000 UTC
Am i the only one that cannot open the video link?'
Anouar
2018-11-29 17:49:39 +0000 UTC
Do you like the thumbnails! Tried to make them more readable.