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Yeah no this episode sucked. Ik a lot of people really like this season but imo, most of the episodes are either mediocre or bad. This one is just really bad.
As for the “Bad Wolf”. While this is (I believe) the first time they are directly acknowledging it, the words “Bad Wolf” have actually appeared in most if not every episode so far. Sometimes spoken. Sometimes written.
One time you might remember is a kid spray painted the words “Bad Wolf” on the side of the TARDIS and the doctor made him clean it off later. I won’t mention anything else but they have been there
Wyatt
2024-08-04 07:25:29 +0000 UTC
It's by no means my favorite episode, but I think there's some interesting elements. I rather like the dinner scene between Margaret and the Doctor. The humor is fair, but the more introspective discussion is really good. "And that’s how you live with yourself. That’s how you slaughter millions. Because once in awhile—on a whim, if the wind’s in the right direction—you happen to be kind.," is a great line.
"You're pleading for mercy out of a dead woman's lips" was another good line. Chris really nails those kinds of lines. That's kind of true of any of the Doctors, but Chris really seems to savor those lines.
I also like the subplot between Rose and Mickey, for the most part. It was long overdue. I think Noel Clarke (Mickey) did a really nice job during his emotional turn talking about how he can't even think about seeing someone else, because he knows if Rose calls, he'll come running. I thought that was a strong moment and some good development for Mickey.
It's a little undermined when Rose heads to the Tardis during the earthquake or whatever, and he's shouting about how it's "never going to be me". I get the sentiment, but it was maybe too intense; and like, shit's going down dude. Now is not the time. That felt a little bit like a Dawn Summers moment. All that was missing was him shrieking, "get out, get out, get out!"
To the show's credit, I'd like to think it was intentional, but they did seem to keep the more overt Slitheen aspects to a comparative minimum; and all earlier in the episode. I think we only see Margaret in her true form once (apart from the arm at the end. They also didn't go as overboard with the gastric stuff. Still more than most might have wanted, but by the time the Doctor catches up with her, they pretty much give up on it. Basically just enough for continuity sake that these are established attributes of the character and then moved on. By the second half of the episode the antagonist could have just been anyone. That might raise the question if it should have been a random alien, but I do think the Doctor and Margaret having an established history helped the story a little.
Stargazer1682
2024-08-04 05:45:58 +0000 UTC
Gladly that's it for the Slitheen. They never return... to Doctor Who anyway, they pop up in a spin off only. Not Torchwood mind. Lol, it's a spoiler, but a good one seeing as you hate them. You are far from the only one too. *add Fart noise*
Jim Lewis
2024-08-02 12:47:10 +0000 UTC
Some more fun facts about your favourite Doctor from the north of England, This episode had a working title of Dining With Monsters. RTD joked that a much better name for this episode would be What should we do with Margaret?
Russell T Davies intended the episode to be a character piece exploring whether the Doctor had the authority to take someone to their death sentence, as well as showing the consequences of the Doctor's actions the last time he met Margaret. The storyline was fitting for Christopher Eccleston's war-torn Doctor. The consequences of the Doctor's lifestyle is also explored through Rose's boyfriend Mickey, who has been forced to move on because she is not around.
The dinner scene between the Doctor and Margaret was filmed on January 2005 at the Cardiff restaurant Bistro 10 before the rest of the episode was filmed. Christopher Eccleston filmed the scene while Billie Piper and John Barrowman were filming scenes for The Empty Child. This was due to Annette Badland also filming the final season of Cutting It. Some of the schedule was also rearranged because of the death of Piper's uncle, resulting in her and Eccleston being replaced by doubles during some scenes near the end of the episode.
The egg Margaret turns into was a reused prop from The End of the World.
If you do talk to your Dad about classic Who tell him William Thomas, the actor who played Mr Cleaver, had previously appeared as Martin in Remembrance of the Daleks, making him the first actor to appear in both the classic and revived series of Doctor Who.
They found out that the series would get a second season whilst producing this episode. And that’s it from me on this one, it’s a fine episode not one I rewatch, gets a heater from me.