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The Owl House S02 E12 Full Length Reaction

Hi hi my fellow watch- along dweebs! Sorry this intro was different than usual. I wanted to include my speculations on Belos and Philip in this full length reaction, so I just copied and pasted my edited YouTube intro haha.

But OOOOH MAN this was a good one. Speaking of speculations- I can’t wait to hear yours! 😍

The Owl House S02 E12 Full Length Reaction

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Understood, take your time. We don't mind if it takes longer due to your schedule. Just don't take too long lolz jk, take as long as you need.

Zulu, I'm working on a schedule right now actually and will post a calendar for you guys as soon as I get it finished :) yeah July is gonna be...hectic lol! But I always try to do my best for you guys and I anticipate on getting the Solar Opposites reactions rolling by the 20th of July!

Hahahaha Amish! It's actually literally just me getting everyone else sick. What a twist!

I just screenshotted this comment for a rainy day 😭🥺❤️ the feeling is so, so mutual!

Awe mate I feel that exact same way about every one of these shows we’ve watched here on the channel so far! I can safely say I wouldn’t have found even half of them on my own, and yet they’re all some of the greatest shows I’ve ever seen. It’s difficult to even put into words how special this whole experience is to me, I’ve found so much joy and happiness getting to do this every week, just getting to really take in every episode and take the time to analyse and ponder the greater mysteries. It really adds so much to the viewing experience and i could absolutely go off on a sappy tangent right now but I guess what I’m really getting at is my gratitude is just immeasurable to you and to all these lovely dweebs, my life has been made significantly better because of the dweebdom and I really hope I make that apparent enough, it honestly means the world✨ And you’re so right it really is so fun to be completely shocked by a plot development, I know I didn’t watch it with you live at the time, due to me not being an honorary dweeb yet lol, but my mind instantly goes to that big reveal of Stanford being the author of the journals! That absolutely blew me away at the time I didn’t even think about the possibility of Stan having a brother, and I could tell you were equally floored from your reaction😅 I think that’s what’s so awesome about this too is that it’s so clear how much you enjoy and immerse yourself in these shows, it makes it such a fun experience to enjoy a show with someone who’s genuinely engaged and passionate about great storytelling! Yeah you really are the best mate I hope I’m not the first person to tell you that today!😊

Jordan

Hahahahaa I too do not have a brain big enough to figure it all out... but honestly? Sometimes I think it's better that way! We get the shock of the big reveal in the end! And that's part of the fun, I say! I hope you have an absolutely awesome week, friend 😊 See you on the next one!

"Please excuse me while I go find a dark corner😭 " LMAO JORDAN 🤣🤣 SAME! I completely agree with everything you said about the emotional and character build up this show offers. I'm right there with you- season 1 didn't have me hooked. But I knew my dweebs wouldn't lead me astray and that there was something more to the show around the corner. I genuinely feel so lucky I was encouraged to watch this show because I think it would have been one I'd have overlooked on my own. AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO SAD BECAUSE I LOVE THIS STINKIN SHOW SO MUCH lol

Hahaha I didn't notice the Dora the Explorer reference while watching but that is absolutely hilarious 🤣 And awww I hope you have a great week too, friend 🥺💖 BRING ON the emotional crap- y'all know I live for that stuff lol!

I really love the way they did time travel as well. It makes much more sense to me than some of the other versions of time travel I've seen in other shows/movies lol

You know ... a carrier that's a flight attendant flying around the country would be the perfect explanation for why new variants keep spreading all over the place. Just sayin'...

The Amish Electrician

Oh no again?? Well I'm glad you're asymptomatic! I was hoping that pesky virus would've disappeared by now. 😡 I'm glad you found a way to work around it and edit your amazing channel! 👍 I think you'll get a kick out of it! I can't wait to watch the new season with you again! So stoked! 😁 & same here! Hope they give "it" more screen time this season! So what's your schedule going to look like since you're recording two reactions again? My week was.......boring 😅. I've just been catching up on shows on Netflix and Amazon Prime. Speaking of which, have I already recommended that you watch Love Death & Robots yet? If not, then you have to watch it! So good!! 😁

Oh THAT'S what the blue thing in his pouch was!? Oh my gosh he's even more demented than I could have ever imagined >.< And thank you for pointing out the Dora the Explorer reference lol! I knew I was missing something there too and now that I realize what Luz was saying about IP that makes that whoel sequence so hysterical 🤣

Zulu! Hi friend! So sadly I caught covid (again 😭) this week so I was at home quarantining. I was mostly asymptomatic this time around, which I was so grateful for! Plus it gave me time to edit for the channel :) And I haven't watched the trailer yet but I am SO PUMPED that it's coming back soon! I can't wait for all the inevitable laughs 🤣 AND I MISS MY PUPA! How was your week? :)

I literally just went "Oooooooo" out loud 🤣 I love subtle details like that, and Dana seems to be good at including them in her show. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is intentional

:O THIS WOULD BE SO COOL

Hahahaha that meme is perfect! And that part totally went over my head! Okay there is some TRIPPY stuff happening here. I can't wait to go back and rewatch the show once I finish it- especially this season- because I bet it's so enjoyable coming across all the stuff you missed the first time!

I agree that timeloop time travel stories are generally the best way to go (though I think the show Legends of Tomorrow handles the other kind of time travel really well because the show doesn’t take itself too seriously). My only other idea about time travel is I’d be fine with it not being a timeloop if you couldn’t go back more than 24 hours. Like, once the planet completes a full spin everything is set in stone and there’s no changing it. But if you wanna go back and fix a mistake you made within the last day, it’s not going to mess up any future timeline because it doesn’t exist yet.

Jenny D

That's actually my belief of how time travel works if it should exist that THE ONLY thing it can do is have you find out that by going back that you played a role in an outcome you possibly tried to prevent...so worst case scenario of you wanting to prevent some catastrophe is time traveling only to find out that you actually caused it. 😁 If you have information that a thing happened then the only thing you can do with time travel is retroactively find out your level of involvement not change it in any way...anyways that's what I believe 😅

It just seems like every week now I’m looking for a fresh new way to say this show is absolutely incredible!🌟😅 I’ve been thinking about it a lot and what I really love the most is that they took the time early on to establish the world and its characters from the ground up! I gotta say when I was originally watching season 1 (more so the first half) I wasn’t completely sold, I didn’t hate it by any stretch but it didn’t feel like it was going anywhere super interesting in the long run. However now that we’ve made it nearly 2 seasons deep I can see the significance of almost every single one of those earlier episodes for one reason or another! These insane and emotional character moments we’re treated to almost every episode now feel so incredibly earned and allow the audience to really engage and feel all that emotion too. Prime example from this episode being Eda. A show less interested in the more emotional side of the story wouldn’t have given any context to Eda’s dad prior to this, then the whole episode would’ve been trying to guess why Eda didn’t want to see her dad, only to find out she hurt him. Here we already know that she messed him up pretty good in her other form, so instead we just get to feel the emotions that Eda is feeling and understand her better as a person. Although that whole situation was very arguably out of her control she physically couldn’t let her dad forgive her for it, or even forgive herself, in her own words she doesn’t deserve it. Like that just broke me up. It’s so clear too that it didn’t matter at all to her father which is what I think really got the waterworks going for me, the only frustration I saw was the 20 years he’d spent without her in his life, and despite that he’s so understanding here as he gives her one more really important piece of advice (that I hope she can take to heart) and leaves. The emotional complexity of a scene like that just blew me the heck away like I had to make a point of how beautiful that all was. Omg that last line about owlbert too “carving him with you is one of my fondest memories” Please excuse me while I go find a dark corner😭 Man, and I didn’t even talk about Phillip yet!!😅 I think it’s safe to say you were absolutely right though mate you smashed it!!✨ Yeah there’s still a few little pieces that need putting into place and I just don’t have the big brain to figure out what exactly happened lol. Although there’s probably some lore in an earlier episode that completely goes against my theory, I’m still saying the other man we saw with Phillip is the Titan, but he also could be the collector or maybe he even made it back to earth without Phillip? Who knows?😂 Saving the best for last I was SO HAPPY to see Lilly and Hootie reunited, not only that but a party organised by Hootie just for her🥲 that was the serotonin boost I needed this weekend!😁 hope you’re doing really great this week friend thank you for another amazing video this was so much fun✨ take care

Jordan

Also, Dell doesn't look a thing like Phillip/Belos or Hunter. Don't go back and look. Trust me on this. Truuuust meeeee...

The Amish Electrician

Hm ... interesting theory. The Old English word for a female witch is "wicce." Language drifts over time (e.g. "Old" English) so I could see "wicce" becoming "witte" in a surname.

The Amish Electrician

Edalyn, Owl. Lilith, White Raven. Gwendolyn, Hawk. Dell, Yellow Cardinal. Hunter, Cardinal. Nah, there's no pattern there...

The Amish Electrician

So here’s Belos’s time travel manipulation timeline! This is my Reddit post about it, which includes pictures https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOwlHouse/comments/tren2a/i_put_together_a_timeline_of_things_that_likely/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf tl;dr—In 2x12 Luz and Lilith are both in the same place for the first time since Luz learned about Philip’s existence. Lilith has been goaded into making history an exciting adventure by her former mentor, and the device she needs to find the timepools has been returned to her.

Jenny D

I don't know if you noticed it too, but Flora D'splora is the Boiling Isles version of Dora the Explorer. Their color palette are the same and she has a monkey Palisman which I'm sure is Boots. Shoutout to Steve for being here tooooo. I love Steve. Aaaand this is probably the first time we've seen Lilith's Palisman off the staff. It has such a goofy face just like the owner and I love it. Hope you have a great weeek Alycia. Can't wait to see you react to future episodes. It gets lore heavy and emotion heavy from time to time.

I love the scene where the echo mouse played Philip's diary, that you can briefly see 3 silhouettes at the entrance, Philip in the middle, and probably Lilith on the left, and Luz on the right. And I love the idea of time travelling in the Boiling Isles. Its not as the same as some movies portray it to be. It shows that everything is supposed to happen. Luz was supposed to go back in the past to help Philip (the diary entry about the collector) and Lilith was supposed to punch Philip or Belos (maybe, but pretty sure he is with the clues so far, but we'll see) to have that broken nose in the future, if he really is Belos. Its not some "if you go back in time, you will destroy reality. you will change everything, if you do that you'll change the future, if I do this, you'll never meet someone" etc . It is predestined, it already happened. I'm probably not making too much sense right now LOL but I just love it.

My thoughts on the episode itself: Steve’s back! Also, Tiny Nose was there for a second, then it cuts to Hooty, and when it cuts back to the group shot Tiny Nose is gone and her glass is tipped over. I fear this is a mystery that will forever remain unsolved. Did you catch the Dora the Explorer reference? Her name, her color scheme, the blue monkey palisman! In the diary entry the echo mouse was playing, right before it cuts off mid sentence there’s an image of Philip and two person-shaped smudges, one close to Philip’s height and the other much shorter. Lilith and Luz! Yes Eda, possums are real, and so are opossums, which is what that image in the book is depicting. Possums look very different. Lilith tripping over her own head proves that going through the timepools create timeloops, meaning there’s no need to worry about messing up the timeline, no paradoxes or “bloody fly” effects. Everything that happened had already happened. Lilith: The confidence, the compliments, he says everything you wanna hear. It feels uncomfortably familiar. Those two orc looking guys, Red Fang and Green Fang, told Luz to ask Philip what happened to their brother Blue Fang and his palisman. Luz didn’t ask but we got an answer anyway! When they’re in the Titan’s skull and Luz is walking over to talk to Philip while Lilith solves the puzzles there’s a shot of Philip’s bag. Inside is a palisman and a blue fang. This psychopath kept a trophy of his sacrifice! We can’t trust anything we’ve learned from Philip’s diary. He’s the poster boy for Unreliable Narrator. Lilith: That better be your own grave you’re digging! Hunter in 2x09: This is my grave. Want me to make you one too? Fun fact: this episode aired the same weekend as the Oscar’s where Will Smith slapped Chris Rock. For the next week the subreddit was flooded with memes about the incident and Lilith punching Philip. Here’s mine! https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOwlHouse/comments/tq1luo/luzposting/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Eda is fixing up Dell’s old tower. But this episode is the first time Hooty’s met Dell. So how did Hooty get here? The world may never know. I will admit, the two different voice actors for Belos and Philip threw me, and had me on the two of them being the two brothers theory. But the vocal layering, the palisman consumption, the messed up arm. And now, thanks to Lilith, Philip has the exact same nose as Belos. Still not as curved as his brother’s nose though. Or Hunter’s. Seething seas and puppet strings He no longer dreams of kings As

Jenny D

Hey Alycia! Which awesome place did you travel to this week? And did you peep the new trailer for Solar Opposites?

Not my theory, but I saw this on Tumblr back when the episode aired and thought it was really compelling! Basically the theory is that the portal door ended up in the forest by Eda’s house because of a timepool! https://guyinmink.tumblr.com/post/679839728284139520/what-if-lilith-bumping-her-head-isnt-merely

Jenny D

After seeing Philip’s attitude towards witches, even before Lilith punched him, I think the last name “Wittebane” literally means “witches’ bane.” As far as I’ve been able to find it’s not a real surname, and I don’t think Dana just made one up at random. We see throughout 2x12 that Philip harbors strong anti-witch beliefs, and in 2x10 we learned that 1600’s Gravesfield was very anti-witch. And historically we know Connecticut in general was very anti-witch at the time. A lot of fans think his last name means “white bane” because he’s a colonizer and Witte is a real Danish surname that means “white”, but it meaning “witches’” just thematically fits so much more closely with this show.

Jenny D

I think Dell Clawthorne is related to Hunter. I won’t get into a lot of the details about the theory because they relate to some of the subtler clues from previous episodes, but I can try to vaguely sum up a bit of my reasoning for this theory. So remember after 2x04 when I mentioned that the show creator said birds are generally a Clawthorne thing, and I pointed out that all the bird palismans we’d seen so far were with the Clawthornes? I think Hunter’s ancestor was the original owner of the red cardinal. In 2x06 the Bat Queen said that he’d finally found someone after all this time. I think Hunter reminded the cardinal of his original owner and that’s why he bonded with Hunter. What first inspired this theory is that I noticed how similar Dell’s palisman is to Hunter’s. Specifically, Dell’s bird is a yellow cardinal, and I’m not talking about the distinct species from South America. No, there’s a rare mutation that can occur in North American red cardinals that makes them yellow instead. The coloring and markings match up pretty perfectly to Dell’s. It’s a very specific detail for the show to include. I think it was meant to hint to the audience that there’s a connection between the owners of the two cardinals. I also think Dell is descended from the witch who traveled to Gravesfield back in the 1600’s, the one Jacob from the museum talked about. The town sigil is bird themed, and throughout that episode we see a few different birds. There are some crows flying around the town sign, and across the street from it is Robin’s Cafe with a logo of a robin in a coffee cup. Gwen said the Clawthorne’s have a history of palisman carving. I think the witch went to the human realm to get some ideas for palismans to carve.

Jenny D

I think this episode inspired the most theories out of any other episode so far! I’m gonna go back through some of mine and share any that don’t contain spoilers, or clues from past episodes that I’m not sure you noticed. I’ll make a separate comment for each theory. (Edit to add: and post them when Patreon stops deleting any new comment I try to make.) But also, remember last episode Amity asked why the Emperor said he was going to meet Luz again, because didn’t they already meet? Here’s a meme I made! https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOwlHouse/comments/tp9f3q/why_did_he_say_hes_gonna_meet_you_again/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Jenny D


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