Rendering Computer Quote Help!
Added 2018-03-05 22:32:57 +0000 UTCHey all... so I got this quote from a local tech shop but it seems really high. They are nice I just didnt know exactly what to ask for. Could you guys help me figure out what is not necessary?
It looks like they are wanting to charge me $1359 for a hard drive, that seems dumb... and I don't even see a graphics card?
Help!
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Too late I guess, but it seems odd to me no-one specifically asked yet what software you are using for animation & rendering. First question to anyone asking about comp specs should be 'what are you gonna run on it?'. Maybe it's common knowledge what you run. Could make a big difference. I'd query whether you need an SSD larger than 250Gb if you are keeping your data on conventional HD.
slythytovepn
2018-03-11 12:26:03 +0000 UTCThank yoh so much RCOLA!!! i really appreciate all the help I can get!
Agent Red Girl
2018-03-07 00:38:28 +0000 UTCGTX 1030 would be a better, and cheaper pick.
Pzrn
2018-03-06 20:33:26 +0000 UTCWhat are you confused about? AgentRedGirl uses CPU based rendering.
Pzrn
2018-03-06 20:31:52 +0000 UTCAs the owner of the largest IT company in FL i feel compelled to comment. The specs are good the only things i would change are switch to an EVGA Graphics card. With us building thousands of computers a year they have the lowest failure rate and the best REM process. Also from experience i would go with a CORSAIR AX Series AX860 due to your workload and the possibility of future upgrades. Finally i would strongly recommend against using a sandisk SSD we see very high failure rates and much better quality ssd's are available for a similar price. A good option would be Crucial MX500 2.5" 500GB for 129.99 on newegg.com. Also for the main storage disk use a HGST 4tb drive. We have thousands in production and there are built like a brick shit house aka they dont fail easy. Just make sure not do to what other creators have done and make sure to back up your data. if you need more one on one info or help feel free to contact me directly.
RCcola1987
2018-03-06 19:26:11 +0000 UTCOmg !! Just get the specs from the comp you are working with now and either UPDATE the guts (to give you more speed or Gb/Tb/render power) Then take those (SAME SPECS) and buy a system (or have one built)=WITH THOSE SPECS.I guarantee you will even have money left over ...all you need is a piece of paper and a pen...I cannot help with specs (not tech geek) but being an avid gamer I can save a dolar buying a system..Lol,all these guys KNOW what they are talking about..but the DICK measuring contest will NEVER end,lmao!!!
michael whipps
2018-03-06 15:43:44 +0000 UTCHi Red. Please check out this site; <a href="https://www.cgdirector.com/best-cpu-for-rendering/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.cgdirector.com/best-cpu-for-rendering/</a> There's tons of helpful info and a chart rating various CPU's in terms of performance vs cost. For example the CPU Colin suggests above is an absolute beast with 16 cores, but it's also very expensive. Best of all the guy running the site is a 3D animator working in an animation studio and he'll answer questions or suggest various rigs depending on what a persons needs are. Hope this helps.
bigwiggy
2018-03-06 06:13:12 +0000 UTCI would take a look at this one I threw together <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TX8pgw" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TX8pgw</a> Quadro for rendering will blow the AMD HD out of the water. Also the HEDTs (X79,x99,x299,x399) LOVE quad Channel Memory. 16GB is not enough, or at least configured that way.
AdmiralBreaker
2018-03-06 04:51:30 +0000 UTCId love all the help I can get Colin!
Agent Red Girl
2018-03-06 04:44:32 +0000 UTCDo you mind if I send you my recommendation?
AdmiralBreaker
2018-03-06 04:36:24 +0000 UTCShould go with the build the Patreon guy sent you. Just show the guys at the tech shop that and they can get the parts and charge you to build it. You do not need 2.5 TB of M2 SSD. That's just silly.
Anthony Foster
2018-03-06 03:56:44 +0000 UTCThen I’m lost at this point ... maybe you can shed some light?
WickedlySmiling1
2018-03-06 02:12:04 +0000 UTCData transfer isn't the bottleneck here. Rendering is.
Pzrn
2018-03-06 00:47:11 +0000 UTCI like the original build better. The Samsung drive is an nvme drive if I’m not mistaken and the sheer speed available with that drive for bulk data transfer is amazing. That’s the build I’d run for a dedicated system for rendering. Although the 960 pro isn’t necessary, the 960 evo would be perfect.
WickedlySmiling1
2018-03-05 23:45:59 +0000 UTCThat looks a lot more reasonable. I don't know how necessary 32 Gigs of RAM is for 3D rendering, for gaming anything over 16 is pretty much excessive, but dropping down to 16 Gig would probably only be a difference of a little over $100. So it's probably a moot point anyways.
Goldfish28
2018-03-05 23:36:47 +0000 UTCThe GTX 1030 would be a cheaper, better option. @Frank Celestino, agreed. PSUs can last for a decade, so they're the last thing you want to skimp on.
Pzrn
2018-03-05 23:35:34 +0000 UTCThat's a solid build, where money is going to the important parts. My only suggestion is to go overkill on the PSU (power supply) in case you want/have to turn this rig into a dual purpose rendering and animating at some point. In which case you'd upgrade the graphics card to something that's power hungry (hopefully when prices go down), and it's easier to just overdue the PSU now as it can always scale down, not up. 1000w PSU would handle anything you'd likely mess with
Frank Celestino
2018-03-05 23:33:16 +0000 UTCHere is an updated build that a patreon sent me: <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FFWFTB" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FFWFTB</a>
Agent Red Girl
2018-03-05 23:21:12 +0000 UTCNaw, m8, you are NOT stupid. This is a great way to learn, AND you've committed no money, just a bit of time. I make mistakes all the time. Last week, I talked to a dude while I was in a stall in the bathroom; I learned a lot from that experience. And felt a bit dim myself
Rhuidean
2018-03-05 23:11:36 +0000 UTCWell, I'm wrong that it's "built" at all, you just get some compatible parts for a bit of a discount
Rhuidean
2018-03-05 23:09:19 +0000 UTCYou shouldn't. Knowing what is best for a particular type of computer requires a lot of research, that's why I've relied on custom companies to do the work for me. Different parts can make a massive difference in performance depending on what you are trying to do. For instance, the top of the line gaming PC is not the top of the line 3D rendering PC. And even different games utilize different parts of the PC differently, so some PCs will run different games better or worse. That's why custom computer companies are so successful, they do all of that leg work.
Goldfish28
2018-03-05 23:09:15 +0000 UTCHmm. Maybe look for 3D rendering discussion and technical forums, ask what hardware people are using or would recommend? Then you'd know what to buy, and you could try ordering the parts online to then take to a local shop for assembly and installation.
M V
2018-03-05 23:08:39 +0000 UTCMan I feel super dumb now
Agent Red Girl
2018-03-05 23:05:03 +0000 UTCThat whole system is just a bunch of their most expensive parts thrown together. It really is a scam setup. If you're not familiar with building your own computer, I'd suggest checking out a few sites that build custom computers, have them get a couple builds together for you and compare prices between the sites.
Goldfish28
2018-03-05 23:02:52 +0000 UTCone sec, let me look at it. They have like... partially built boxes.
Rhuidean
2018-03-05 23:02:10 +0000 UTCOh also I asked the sales man just to quote me with all the best stuff for now. I just wanted somewhere to start from because I am not so good with hardware.
Agent Red Girl
2018-03-05 23:01:59 +0000 UTCWell I am 0% comfortable putting a computer together myself =(
Agent Red Girl
2018-03-05 23:01:08 +0000 UTCFrom what I could tell, that motherboard has no onboard graphics, so you'd have to buy your own. My suggestion would be to shop through Amazon and Newegg, make sure you get CPU (and fan/heatsink), memory, graphics, hard drive(s), power supply, and make sure to look for a case that's large enough to physically get your graphics card into (I've had some that were too small to fit a long card). Most motherboard manufacturer sites have details on what CPUs can be used on that model of motherboard. I used to go to overclocker forum sites to find hardware that they recommended and look for things like that -- my thought was that if they could successfully get a stable overclock out of that hardware, then normal usage would be even more rock solid. And don't buy a large SSD drive -- just get a smaller one to hold Windows, and use a large SATA drive for the rest of your stuff.
M V
2018-03-05 22:57:40 +0000 UTCCan you not use newegg?
Rhuidean
2018-03-05 22:56:50 +0000 UTCThis whole list reeks of "scam"
Rhuidean
2018-03-05 22:56:33 +0000 UTCA 960 pro is definitely overkill and will only speed up the load and saving of the files not that actual rendering speed
Thomas Day
2018-03-05 22:54:00 +0000 UTCWell tech shops are after all (SALESMAN).lol....I think if you get the SPECS off of your working computer and ask for a duplicate updated model (of that particular namebrand) ....Or ask them if they have a older model tower with updated gutz (or pick and choose which parts are most important for task at hand)=animator then I think on a budget you should come out fine.
michael whipps
2018-03-05 22:53:28 +0000 UTCAnd even if you did, Samsung 960 Pro is a little high end. I'd suggest 1 SSD for the OS (500 GB max) and a 7200 RPM mechanical drive (2-4 TB). Combined, you get the best of speed and storage. Ask for other brands and models as well.
Samsonium
2018-03-05 22:50:27 +0000 UTCLOL. You do NOT need an m.2 solid state drive!
Pzrn
2018-03-05 22:33:48 +0000 UTC
