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A Question about Length

So, I was in the shower this morning, and I was thinking about length...

Length regarding the days for the routes, that is. (I don't know what you were thinking!)

As many of you know, the difference in length from the early days on the first 5 routes differs greatly from Dwayne and Richard, and it leads me to wonder... What do you prefer?

Back then, I used to tell myself... 300-500 lines per update! You can do it! Nowadays, I tend to not settle for anything under 1200 while still pushing up to 1500 to even 2000 lines in an update (when I say lines, it's usually a mix of dialog and code). This comes up to roughly 10k words on the minimum side

Of course, my writing style has, very clearly, evolved over the years, but still, I wanted to know... Do you guys like the length of the most recent updates? Or would you prefer them to be on the shorter side? I don't know if it'll really impact how I handle things for the rest of ExcA, but it would be nice to get some feedback going forward!

I've been experimenting with recent updates with how I skip certain parts of the day. I don't feel like I -have- to write about every aspect of the day (as sometimes I struggle to fill bits in), so I just... skip over it with some lines of text kinda filling in what happened.

Anyway, just looking for feedback on these things! Thanks, folks!

Comments

I was wondering since you're talking length. Would you be interested in some point in the future to revisit Coach Grifter, Spencer & Darius ('s) routes and extend them some more days? Possibly add some new choices to encourage rereading them. I've read ExCA several years ago and loved it. Would be nice to see more of these good boys. <3

Andrew Moldenhauer

I know this has nothing to do with the post, but can I know the height of Dwayne and Richard? I'm looking for information but I can't find anything

Anti Folletisti

Horny reader in me says keep sex scenes as long as possible and as many as possible. I am a bit biased however, personally I love the storytelling and how it's paced and I'm really glad it got longer in the recent years. ExA was my first visual novel and the one that introduced me into this world so it'll always be close to my heart. But playing earlier routes like Harold and Dozer, some things do get a little bit repetitive during the days, that may also be the way I am playing it but it felt like declining a certain event or missing a choice just left the day empty. Again it might just be the way I played the game but it felt empty only then, after a couple of replays there was content just in different place. With these new days it doesn't feel empty at all, makes the game feel way more realistic. Especially when there is a lead up to a certain event, I remember how excited I was on those big moments in the story. So the longer the better.

LynxinLavanderSea

You know that feeling when you are watching a show and you can't wait for next week to get a new episode, thats how i feel about your writing, more is always good when you are delivering such a good product. That being said i think you should keep in consideration 2 things, first prioritize quality, is never good to drop it just for length wich i think you had no problem so far, second is your health, we really appreciate you take your work seeiously and you provide a great service, but dont feel like you need to keep a huge workload just to comply, droping a small update once in a while is not the end of the world either (tho it kinda is for me 🥲). Keep the great work

Ricardo Diaz

Call me Goldilocks cause I think these updates are just right! 💕

BearyThing

I have not felt any issues with the length of the days for the most parts. Just some days I wish we spent more time with very well written days, you can just read/feel the muse flowing on those days but all in all it's all good. Though I wouldn't mind some more options during the sex days, but that's just me being horny so you know how that is.

Mestev

I'll join the side that is "more is better, but don't overwork yourself" XD

Gekido Panda

Never had that thought come up, the updates always feel right and the quality is by far the best, compared to other games i played. Just continue what feels right for you and don't push yourself too hard into perfectionism.

Wu Bear

For me personally its really about fulfillment than length, but for now I think the current length each update has been getting has been perfect!

Snowden Namdar

I'm here for quality and story progress. I've never felt like you've dragged sections out too much like say Silence. By the same token I've never felt like "that's it?" You walk a solid balance of stuff going on and not belaboring every minute is every day. S'why I come back to ExCa more than went other FVN.

Cody Fox

I like the pacing. Don't think something needs to be longer than what it is, however.

Sparks

Perfect length already. For most independent VN,s the update is like 200 lines every 2 months and then they sadly disappear after a year or 2. The fact that the work you do is such high quality, has been going on for so long, and so frequently updated is proof that YOU and EA are both the best, and to ask the BEST for more would seem selfish. Seriously you are the GOAT and never forget that! 🏆

Silverjack

I like the varied day length. Short medium and long. I will say mabey consider a short day with a medium length day. Though only if that works in your narrative Overall the day length is good

CatCentaur

I'm happy that you're able to make your living making a project you're passionate about. I've been backing for almost 10 years now I think and your game is a project that will be great no matter the length in my opinion. It think last build I played was like 1.38. Haven't played since because I'm just gonna wait for that full release and then just go absolutely ham playing it. Whether that means longer or shorter dialogue makes no difference to me. Just keep doing what makes you enjoy your work.

ArcTheWolf

The updates should be as long as you need them to be, whether they're 500 or 5000 lines

badaimrac00n

I feel like I said so much but nothing at the same time lol

Warfare

As long as the story benefits from what you choose all will be okay. There's no need to write about the whole day in great detail. Skipping some parts of the day is good. You can't just write about when the character showers all the time because showering is just the same process, it'll get boring eventually. Also, as long as what you choose on how you write the story enables you to deliver an amazing story, ill gladly be supportive. Don't make a choice that'll negatively impact you or your writing

Warfare

I prefer longer day lengths, even if they take slightly longer to produce. Getting more details about the characters lives and how they think and feel is always a wonderful. That said, I've absolutely no complaints about what you r produced this far! ❤️

Arzei

I think the amount of text and content has been fine in my opinion. But if you need to shorten for your own wellbeing/ to make it easier on you I’m fine with that. I don’t feel the need for a certain length. I’m appreciative of getting anything 💜

Evil_Seawitch

Over these last like 7+ years I've always felt you've found the right balance to fit the narrative of what is being told in a given day.

Naesaki Ashwell

I have noticed they're quite larger in the recent updates, but I like reading, so I might not be the best to ask. However, that being said. If you did make them shorter, I wouldn't make them less than 2/3rds the length they are now. Most of the lines in the last few updates were either really good follow through and flowed well, added to the characterisation of Richard or Dwayne, or they were funny. You could realistically cut up to 30-40% at most before it became really noticeable yet retain quality. I guess it depends on what works for you, and if writing longer updates is something you think will fir the characters and the story beats. 🤔

David Laurence

Personally, I love the way things have been in terms of length. It feels fine to me.

Bobby Thornbody

Second it too. All the routes have something unique to offer and it's only natural to have various lengths for each day. At least this is my opinion.

Xeralex

In the end you are creating a visual "novel". A story that draws soo many of us into the world you have created. I, personally, absolutely love the length.

Talis

I love they are just right Dyne, that way when there is a longer one is like "boom jackpot!"

Kibz_Grandius

I like how everything has been flowing in the story! I especially like how some days have more and some have less. It makes it feel more real to me because not everyday has some major event or thing. Someday are just short and quiet so good job!

PlasmaSnake90

Agreed

Randastasius

If some "days" are longer or shorter than usual, that's okay. Whatever fits the narrative you're trying to tell ✨️

Hyou Vizer


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