Side Route - Personal Time
Added 2016-10-18 12:57:47 +0000 UTCAlright, you guys are gonna get a little sneak peak at what's going on in my head right now. I'd like some input and feedback on this idea. If you've NOT played Chester's route yet, I'll be talking about a little bit of his dialogue. It's not really a spoiler, but just in case you guys don't want it ruined, skip this post for now!
So, let's begin. This is something I'm sure a lot of people are looking forward to finally seeing, and involves the more sexual side of the visual novel.
During the Onsen bit, Chester does bring up the talk about how big he is, and depending on your choices, he even questions if you two would be able to have sex, implying that he's too big for it.
From feedback I'm getting, people are curious about things such as getting to be on bottom or getting to be a top. With the direction I'm taking with the writing, being a bottom for Chester is really unlikely to happen without it ending badly. Pain, awkwardness, and such, right?
How can we avoid that?
Introducing, the Personal Time side route. As your relationship with certain characters advance, this will open up an extra side route for the MC to... explore his body a little more and try some things in hopes of preparing himself for future endeavors. Such as, buying some toys to help prepare himself.
I have a whole variety of ideas of how I plan on handling some of these sexual encounters, but I was also looking for some input from you guys. Since I'm currently on hold with EA while working with the Halloween special, this gives me some time to plan out some more ideas and make some minor tweaks (such as, I just finished tweaking the image gallery code a bit, and added scrolling functionality to the pages to allow for more images).
Input?
This whole concept revolves around the MC exploring his own body, not fooling around with the other characters. That's it's own thing ;)
Comments
Oh yeah, this certainly won't be spammable. It'll only be introduced as a side route thing, and those only pop up here and there. On top of that, it won't be there for the first couple of side routes, only when the prospect of things getting serious pops up ;D Some other good ideas here too, so thhanks!
DyneWulf
2016-10-24 08:10:57 +0000 UTCSomething I saw in a game was having the personal time limited as in not being able to spam exploring one's body in the VN, still be an all-star tennis player (but not over-shadow Spencer :3), or excel in your studies. I think that certain husbandos should appreciate what you are able to focus on in the spare time provided. For example: spencer would love it if the MC was a great tennis player and still an A student. But for someone like Chester, school isn't a huge priority for him but focusing on the card game or video games would be huge for him. Then there's also the whole part-time job route's that is fleshed out in some routes (spencer) but only mentioned in others (chester and harold). Although thinking about it, this sounds like a nightmare to code but that's coming from someone who doesn't know the first thing about coding xD Hope this is helpful and as always, thanks for the great VN!
Coltyn91
2016-10-23 20:51:51 +0000 UTCMmmmhmm, so many things can play in on that... Hadn't considered something like that though!
DyneWulf
2016-10-20 00:27:06 +0000 UTCOf course ;3 I think I know how I'll approach this part too.
DyneWulf
2016-10-20 00:26:31 +0000 UTC"Spence lies back grinning at you, but you sense that he's slightly disappointed--he'd clearly be up for more if only you had the stamina to keep up with him. Maybe you should have spent more of your free time on the track..."
Regonoreth
2016-10-19 18:46:47 +0000 UTCHaha, silly stuff like that here and there is good to have though!
DyneWulf
2016-10-19 05:52:26 +0000 UTCi immediately thought if this in conjunction to sexual fantasies like in spencer's route; if mc is practicing bottoming it'd be hilarious and make sense for him to get a dildo of the approx size of his love interest and nickname it stuff like "the bull", "the bear", "the wolf" etc, i love really dumb story elements like that. if he's practicing being a top that would require more mental prep, hence why sexual imagination would play an important role
Vivienne
2016-10-19 05:38:33 +0000 UTCThat's something I hadn't thought about yet. Thanks for the idea! And thank you again for the support and encouragement!
DyneWulf
2016-10-19 04:23:26 +0000 UTCIt wouldn't even take up that much. The side routes are quick and easy things I normally do for filler when I'm lacking in ideas or am trying to push the story along to another point. It prolly wouldn't be more than 200-300 lines of dialogue, if even. Unless I got carried away with it, of course.
DyneWulf
2016-10-19 04:22:41 +0000 UTCMoney was the first thing I thought of! I have some workarounds with that, but that's a good thing to keep in mind. I gotta help with his monetary situation!
DyneWulf
2016-10-19 04:21:26 +0000 UTCI personally think it would be great idea if you have the MC ask Darius for advice. Use his perverseness into a teaching opportunity and more of a character development. I think its great that you are thinking into this into such detail and asking for feedback, and I'm sure whatever you do would be great. I know a lot of are looking forward to more of the adult scenes of this visual novel.
2016-10-19 03:24:45 +0000 UTCI like the concept as long as it didn't take up too much of the game. Keep it as a quick side game of sorts that you can choose to do and let it take up no more than 25% of the game.
Mark
2016-10-19 02:37:01 +0000 UTCI think experimentation would be in good fun, and would add even more re-playability. Would like to bring up though, since we're talking about Chester's route, that Mc doesn't have a job officially in any route but Spencer's, and that's just starting. He might want to make a little cash, and that could be where a time skip may come in handy if you end up choosing to do one at some point. Just food for thought, since money is a variable that could effect decisions on all routes, and he would have to set aside money for any investments in toys.
2016-10-19 02:26:48 +0000 UTCThanks for the input! This is a big part of the later part of the visual novel, so it'll prolly be a little move complex for me, and there are a lot of things I'd like to implement around it. It's gonna take a lot of thought to get it just how I want it.
DyneWulf
2016-10-19 02:07:58 +0000 UTCDon't worry about that. Any and all feedback is welcome, and just being here for support is more than enough! So, thank you :D
DyneWulf
2016-10-19 02:06:02 +0000 UTCI am sorry if I do not give a lot of ideas for the story. I think the story is excellent so far and that I don't need to give you feedback except that i love it. If anything the only feedback that i am focused on is the functionality of the game itself and how user friendly it can be. I know that is probably feedback that is harder to actualize since it seems to be more of a coding issue than a story issue. Definitely more work to be done but I am loving every second of it regardless. So awesome, I cannot wait till the game is actually completed. I will be playing it over and over again for days lol
Zachary Maynard
2016-10-19 01:05:27 +0000 UTCI could see this being a good idea, especially for replayability's sake. Though I suppose you need to ask yourself how simple/complicated you want it to be. Whether the side route will be similar across all the routes or different is something to consider. The MC might not need the same type of "training" for Chester as, say, Spencer. For Chester, perhaps strengthening his body and loosening a few things up. For Spencer, perhaps trying to become more limber to match Spence's flexibility and whatnot. Just as an example. A side route to allow the MC to gain a little confidence for the act could be good, though regardless of the route it's gonna be the MC's first time, so there's bound to be a little awkwardness and such. Especially on a route with one of the guys that is also a virgin. Luckily in the world the MC lives in, I'd imagine there is a wealth of information on how to proceed when two different "morphs" want to go at it...Still not sure of the official term there, so gonna stick with morphs since that's the term that was used at the beginning of the game with the profile cards. Some would like the appeal of the MC going in "blind," so leaving this as a side option is a good idea. Depending on how you go about this, it could potentially add a good bit of time to the development of the game, but personally I'm fine with that. I'd imagine the first part of the side route will be similar across all the main routes, since the MC will need a lot of the same information/"training" regardless of which main route he's on. After that I suppose it's a decision to either keep it general across all routes or get specific depending on which guy the MC is with. Either way, looking forward to seeing how this might develop!
2016-10-19 00:15:34 +0000 UTCThere seems to be a toooon of routes I can go with how I've design the characters ;3 I'll be gathering ideas and such for how to proceed.
DyneWulf
2016-10-18 22:35:37 +0000 UTCYEah, the fooling around with other character isn't what I meant. It's personal time for the MC to explore his own body, so the intent was to give them a side-route to purchase some things to play with.
DyneWulf
2016-10-18 22:34:00 +0000 UTCI'm hoping to have some illustrated scenes for this. If the time comes, and I can't have them (at that moment), then it will be written in detail. But, as long as things go according to plan, they will be illustrated.
DyneWulf
2016-10-18 22:33:00 +0000 UTCDefinitely gonna have some choices there.1 And, I've never thought about having an option of choosing what day to play through. It's something I'll have to look in to.
DyneWulf
2016-10-18 22:31:15 +0000 UTCI typed this at 6 in the morning, and didn't realize how it sounded at the time. I was talking the MC exploring his own body, so perhaps picking up a toy or two to experiment on your own.
DyneWulf
2016-10-18 22:25:32 +0000 UTCThis is my favorite option to go with, letting the awkward experience happen between the two of them, and that's one reason to leave this other thing as a side-route. I won't push players to it, but it'll be there for the ones that DO want to go that way.
DyneWulf
2016-10-18 22:08:34 +0000 UTCWith my thoughts i think that there a lot you can do. Mainly when it come to Chester route it would be best for there first time the MC to buy a dildo and top Chester for there first time together. Then the MC will show the dildo to Chester for the next time they want to have sex. With Darius he a bit more complex sure he love sex but there more to it. Coach I can see doing both ways but being nerves about being a bottom. Spencer well is hard but I do have a few Idea's for him and finally Dozer. His story to short at the moment to get an idea I think after the Halloween Special is done you should work on Dozer more.
Everos
2016-10-18 20:06:53 +0000 UTCSpeaking only for chester, it wouldnt surprise me if the MC would buy some toys to experiment with by himself. He already knows that Chester is well endowed and it only make sense that he would question wether or not he can take it and that he should practice. I feel like some of the people here are talking about him fooling around with others and I dont think that would be the correct route to go.
Bunnylover
2016-10-18 19:16:14 +0000 UTCSounds great!
Cosmo Cassamassa
2016-10-18 19:15:41 +0000 UTCthis sounds waaaaay cool and i'm hyped to see it implemented in the storyline!
2016-10-18 18:38:29 +0000 UTCJust giving it a bit of time and double checking if people had this thought strike them yet. Yes, can completely agree to 'practice' before the main event type of deal; Butt... and there always is. Will these additional scenes be illustrated or written out with details?
Dusty
2016-10-18 18:05:56 +0000 UTCFooling around first would be a better route than straight to sex. It helps pace the story better too. For all characters, not just Chester.
Zachary Maynard
2016-10-18 17:11:21 +0000 UTCI would like to be able to resume the game from a save point right before the point of the new update. I also wouldn't mind a day select option. Let's say I played flawlessly through day 1- 5 I would like to be able to choose one of those days to start with. Kinda like a chapter select feature. I love the concept of personal side story. I highly recommend having top and bottom options like what the other commentors had suggested. I think it would be cool if a couple characters were exclusively top or bottom. It would be a similar concept to Dragon Age and Mass Effect. Some characters are bi, some are strictly gay or straight. I think using the concept for top, bottom and vers would be a cool addition to the story.
Zachary Maynard
2016-10-18 17:09:09 +0000 UTCSo.....basically you can fool around with other guys before going back to mess with your main piece? Is that correct?
TiredFins
2016-10-18 17:03:06 +0000 UTCIt would be great to prep for such a massive thing that does make yourself clench in real life. But, what if there was a prep to that where you do a little fooling around that doesn't include getting any of the rear end fun. Like what if there was an option for touching or even a little oral. It would help if both MC and the guy you are with, except Darius, could take some time to explore each other whether be in the safety of the bedroom or excitement of the locker room. Then, when the time is right, either topping or bottoming for the boyfriendo could be an option. As topping and bottoming, I believe the one character. ONE, would be Darius as top. I mean come on, I could see everyone else as versatile. Even Coach. Cx On Chester's route, for example, there could have been a little touch n feel between each other to feel comfortable with each other leading into the intimacy. Sorta lead into the big moment where someone either tops or bottoms. Just saying.
NikoElys
2016-10-18 14:47:37 +0000 UTCI'd totally agree too. As I said before, I'd really like to see the the side routes fleshed out and integrated into the main story. You could even have it set up as a bit of a reward in game. Don't spoonfeed the possibility of prepping to the player, instead putting it in the list of many options for your free time. The reward of choosing to "prep" for Chester would be the ability to unlock that scene. If there's nifty things for the other "downtime" options as well, it would also add a bit of replayability from a game design standpoint. Also, I agree with Vic Venom as well: There’s no obligation to make that relationship go smoothly. If things are a bit awkward and there’s some experimentation involved, that’s fine too. It’d probably add a bit of charm to the scene to be honest. It would really be fitting with Chester, who’s not shy about his body but is shy about sex.
JTalbain
2016-10-18 14:28:58 +0000 UTCI guess it's an idea that deserves to be developed, but isn't some of the appeal about the MC that he has no experience with that kind of thing and is a virgin ? I mean on the one hand, it's totally understandable from his point of view and gives us some welcomed alternate content, on the other hand, I feel that if it has to end badly if I let myself be topped by Chester, I wouldn't be against it at all ; it's simply part of the experience, not everything has to go smoothly. It's interesting, but personally I'd prefer having no preparation and even have it awkward, I think it makes the first time with a romantic relationship all the more special. (damn the patrons in here must think I'm weird between this and my previous comment on the current update) Unless, of course, Darius, cause he wants none of that romantic crap and he'll most likely go insane on you, so you'll probably need everything in hand to resist his plundering assaults. So yeah, that's how I see it, it's some good bonus but I would not deem it super necessary in my own canon playthroughs, I'll just see the results on the side (much like with Spence at the club in the latest update, even if telling him "I did (sense rush)" on stage with him & Charlie felt extremely wrong for me to pick).
Vic Viper
2016-10-18 13:38:34 +0000 UTCYeah that sounds like a really great idea for the MC to be able to have some free time to himself can't wait to see what ideas you have for each character. But I guess the most obvious thing for Chester's route would be for MC to be able to by a dildo to practice for Chester and everything.
Loremaster22
2016-10-18 13:13:07 +0000 UTCThat does sound like a great idea. I would like the idea of being able to top or bottom character too. Hehehe the thought of topping someone like coach sounds really hot X3
Kageichi
2016-10-18 13:05:31 +0000 UTC