What A Cartoon! - Case Closed "Jack Attacks!"
Added 2018-09-24 07:00:01 +0000 UTCWe're back to anime this week as we tackle the mega-hit from Japan that failed to catch on in America, Case Closed. Known as Detective Conan in its home country, this long, long, long-running series about a teenage master detective trapped in a boy's body hit Adult Swim in the summer of 2004, but its mix of kiddie antics and extremely dark subject matter mostly confused an American audience tuning in for the network's typical stoner humor. But some recent attention from Conan O'Brien just might increase Case Closed awareness as the show continues into its 23rd season in Japan... maybe. Special guests Nick and Chris Daniel join us to help unravel the mystery of why Conan's many mysteries are just so fun.
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You know, its always weird to me that Detective Conan crossed over with Lupin III. Conan's alias partly comes from Arthur Conan Doyle, who wrote the Sherlock Holmes books. Lupin III is a descendant of the original Lupin, a rival of Sherlock Holmes. How can a character from a world where Sherlock existed inhabit the same space as a character that lives in a world where he's fictional?
Curtis Bostick
2018-09-27 03:44:38 +0000 UTCYo, I know a lot about this show, so please forgive me for writing a massive wall of text. This show (along with a lot of anime) was supposedly hated by the heads of Adult Swim, who buried it late in the night so that more profitable licenses could be earlier in the line up, when most people were actually watching. When it failed to gather a large audience due to it's late slot, it was canned from AS. Funimation had basically did all of the dubbing up front, and were fairly sure the show could be popular here because of how big it was literally everywhere else in the world. They essentially dubbed the first 100+ episodes and 6 movies before they were even sure the show would be a success. This was during the "bubble" of anime where nearly everything sold in vast quantities for ridiculous prices, so they weren't too concerned. But, like you guys mentioned, it just isn't a good fit for an American audience. Too goofy and childish for adults, too gruesome and serious for most kids. And then the "anime" bubble popped and a lot of production houses started to go bankrupt. Funi felt the ripples of this and had to really tighten their purse strings. The dub for Conan wasn't a cheap thing to do. Funi had to pay a lot for the license and went out of their way to dub most of the music and did their best to change some of the needed Japanese Kanji imagery into English. Once it was clear that they weren't getting renewed on TV, they decided fairly quickly that they wouldn't dub anymore, but still put out DVDs to see if a Futurama/Family Guy style cult following would be profitable enough to warrant more of a dub. Long story short....It wasn't. The localization was also kind of bad. They actually do "Phoenix Wright" style localize it a lot: For example, the character "Harley" who is supposed to be from Osaka, is from Chicago in the English version. They did this because he wears a hat that looked like a Chicago White Sox hat (though it wasn't). And they go to "Chicago" once even though it's clearly supposed to be Osaka. Also, in many of the episodes the crimes deal with the characters' names. Like in the second movie, where a murderer is murdering people using a playing card/number pattern. His last target is "Jimmy" because in Japanese his name is "Shinichi" and "Ichi" means one. In English they claim the murderer is after him because he's the number one detective. The rest of the movie in English is a mess because they have to come up with other random reasons as to why the killer is targeting people. In Japanese it's all very clear and name based. Finally, I really hate the decision to change the names. Aoyama is VERY particular about the way he names the characters in the show. You explained Conan's name, but Kogoro is named after Kogoro Akechi a famous fictional detective by Edogawa. Ran is named after Maurice Leblanc, the creator of Arsene Lupin. In the English version, they just chose names that would match the flaps. Save for Richard, who was given that name because Dick is another word for detective. That's about as creative as they got. The show is really good, and I think they did as much as they could with the English version. I highly recommend giving it a watch-through if you like campy detective stuff.
Spoken_Weakley
2018-09-26 07:59:53 +0000 UTCif you finish the dub run of the anime and still want more, funimation dubbed the first six movies which are a fun time if you enjoy how ridiculous the show can be
skelly
2018-09-26 06:18:44 +0000 UTCyou have to do stroker and and hoop i'm partial to kanja (hey buddy someone hit you in the head quick pea in this cup so i can throw it at them
Toushin
2018-09-26 00:49:37 +0000 UTCso that's how you pronounce "VRV," lol. I've been seeing ads at the movies, and succumbed to subscribing after they advertised classic Nick shows, and I always wondered how it sounded verbally...I just kept saying Vee-Are-Vee. The channel layout is nice, especially having other channels like Shudder and the Nerdist (Talking Toons w/ the Animaniacs Guy is awesome)
Frank Grimes
2018-09-25 12:43:36 +0000 UTCBy the 800 serires range there are so many characters that are either independent detectives or mouthpeices for Jimmy that Megure starts to joke "Everyone in this city is a detective". Theres also an insane web of betrayals and double agentery surrounding the black organazation and Conan has had to fake at least two deaths.
RoitRailways
2018-09-25 03:32:46 +0000 UTCPiratebay here I come (to make sure no one is sharing unlicensed material of course) 😉
Tyler the Destroyer
2018-09-25 03:13:05 +0000 UTCIt's only on the (cheap) DVDs because as we said Funimation lost the rights to the episodes they licensed so it's no longer streaming on their network.
Bob Mackey
2018-09-24 23:17:31 +0000 UTCYou know what, a TS/WAC style podcast that explains elements of Japanese culture that play into cases might be fun. I've always enjoyed Case Closed, but the number of episodes has always daunted me from binging it. I also felt the same about The Simpsons after I stopped watching, but Talking Simpsons brought me back. An episode analysis podcast would be killer for this show.
Curtis Bostick
2018-09-24 21:06:59 +0000 UTCI haven't listened yet (saving up to burst listen to other TS episodes), but I legitimately prefer "Case Closed" to "Detective Conan". I don't know why- it has a better ring to it for me, and it's partly why I watched this show until it 'canceled' on Adult Swim. The other part is the great concept: adorable boy detective solves crime worthy of Law and Order.
Bork
2018-09-24 19:42:00 +0000 UTCWhere can I find this episode!? I have crunchy roll and 164 episodes are on it but I can’t seem to find this episode anywhere !?
Tyler the Destroyer
2018-09-24 17:34:40 +0000 UTCI attended a FUNimation panel at Anime Expo a few years back, and the reason they gave behind naming the show Case Closed is because they were worried that if Americans first heard the title "Detective Conan" they would get a false assumption and think that show would be about Conan the Barbarian as a detective and then be confused when they see the show. It's also possible they would've had to face legal things and just didn't want to say it, but either way Conan the Barbarian seems to be the one.
ShyRanger
2018-09-24 09:01:13 +0000 UTC
