What A Cartoon! - Phineas And Ferb - "Dude, We're Getting the Band Back Together"
Added 2023-10-02 04:00:03 +0000 UTCChosen by premium patron ToonJay, it's time for us elder millennials to learn about Gen Z's favorite cartoon stepbrothers, Phineas and Ferb! Yes, we dig into the history of the 104 days of summer vacation and the careers of the show's creators. Then, it's time for some rock history as we discuss one of the most beloved eps, Dude, We're Getting The Band Back Together. Do get ready for a mix of backyard adventures and platypus spy action in this week's podcast!
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To answer your question if the kids are still into the "rock music", its complicated. On one hand, rock has definitely fallen out of the mainstream as hip-hop became the dominate genre of youth subculture (and even that's beginning to change). On the other, as someone who runs in music nerd circles, rock is still very popular with younger people who have more than a casual interest in music. Popular genres are neo-psychadelic rock bands like Tame Impala and King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard as well a post-punk revival groups like Idles, but the most interesting development among zoomer rock fans is the reappraisal of nu metal. Band like Deftones, Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park are seen as way more important and influential bands than people like to give them credit for and we're unappreciated in their time. In short, while rock is no longer the cultural juggernaut it once was, there are young people who still care a lot about it and have their own unique ideas about its place in history.
KaiserBeamz
2023-10-17 14:20:58 +0000 UTCThe Bowling For Soup song Bob was referring to about 1985 is actually a cover of a different band SR-71. As someone who was VERY into BFS and similar silly pop punk bands growing up, I was initially taken aback by Bob calling it the only song people know by them, but when I ask people who didn’t listen to them religiously, it’s one of the only ones they can name. (That or they say “Stacy’s Mom” which is actually by Fountains of Wayne, but sometimes they play live as a joke because people always think they wrote it lmao)
NUKLEARRAT
2023-10-11 18:45:02 +0000 UTCIt's actually kind of funny you describe Phineas as having a pin head. There is one episode where the kids run a TV show parodying an in universe children's show that the father watched as a kid where a man called Pinhead Pierre played cartoons for the kid audience. In the recreation the kids put on Phineas dresses up in a Pinhead Pierre suit which emphasis that point of his head even further.
MilesDX
2023-10-10 00:22:33 +0000 UTCI saw an interesting TikTok from Povenmire (he is on there a lot) responding to someone asking why the B plot (Perry and Doofenschmirtz) is more interesting than the A plot (Phineas and Ferb). He said that P&F's escapades aren't the A plot, they're the setting. There's no story with P&F because everything always works out for them. The A plot is Candace trying to bust them. I don't know if that makes it any better for a viewer, but it's something they were well aware of and considered it the biggest challenge writing the show.
Joe Kafchinski
2023-10-08 19:50:06 +0000 UTCSome of these songs have big Parapa The Rappa vibes to them, I never watched this show but it sounds pretty good.
Camille Walters
2023-10-07 09:37:06 +0000 UTCI didn't know anything about this show, I'd seen the platypus guy before and had no idea he wasn't from his own show. It felt really weird and out of place to have this secret agent/mad scientist thing as part of this show. Though also the entire "104 days of summer vacation" concept sounds like pure fantasy, summer vacation around here is barely 60 days (3 weeks of June, all of July, first week of August)
Phillip
2023-10-05 22:13:37 +0000 UTCdan and swampy spoke at my animation school last fall, and in addition to telling us their usual backstory and q&a, swampy would specifically heckle any students leaving early by yelling across the entire theater and asking them why they were leaving. it was funny, but they mainly spoke about writing music for animation. It was so insightful, as we don’t get many guest speakers like this at my university. In regard to Bob’s observation that the kids look ugly, the creators told us that Disney executives asked them to make the child designs “more attractive”, as Swampy put it.
yethen
2023-10-05 16:05:59 +0000 UTCI also fall squarely into the camp of "just a little too old for this" with P+F (and I was also much more into what harder cartoonier shows like Flapjack were doing at that time), but it was always something that was never on my radar until i kept encountering parents who would always talk about how much they loved the show more than their kids. When i did eventually check it out on that recommendation, i absolutely could see how it was exactly the kind of show where half the jokes are there for parents in the room as much as they are the kids. It's dad jokes, all the way down. I often steered away from most of Disney channels' offerings since they tended to be a little too... tweeny-boppy for my tastes, but it was neat to see that P+F was a show that really pushed things to the limits of those boundaries as much as they could, but still felt somewhat held back by the broadly inoffensive restrictions of pre-Gravity Falls Disney TVA. If you ever check it out (and I wouldn't say you necessarily need to) I think their follow-up Milo Murphy's Law was able to do some funnier stuff by upping the age of the characters and audience (yes, its basically a show about three Doug's) and being able to play around in a slightly "nastier" space left from the precedent set by Gravity Falls. Plus some of the songs get to inherit some of that good good Weird Al spice.
John-Charles Holmes
2023-10-04 17:58:09 +0000 UTCTo answer the 'what genre is that electronic music,' I always turn to Ishkur's Guide which had a recent redesign. http://music.ishkur.com/ This doesn't help at all with current rock bands
Byron Lagrone
2023-10-03 13:44:53 +0000 UTCGeorge Harrison had the "bass player energy" of the Beatles, despite being, technically, the lead guitar player.
Bradford A Barker
2023-10-03 05:05:08 +0000 UTCGeorge Harrison, the most famous bass player of all time
Gene Owl
2023-10-02 23:40:58 +0000 UTCAs the TS Patreon’s resident 23 Year Old, I can confirm that people of my generation LOVE this show as much as they do SpongeBob or Avatar. I also dug it at the time, but it’s not a show I really go back to that often. Of course, I distinctly remember catching the post High School Musical 2 preview at Age 8 and getting hooked on the weird, yet intriguing premise, but P&F never fully stuck with me like other childhood favs. I guess the show’s longevity is due to the strength of a premise you can do basically anything with. In an age of serialization and lore dominating the entertainment space, it is quaint to see a show whose main appeal is that you never know what crazy new inventions the main characters will create next. Also, those songs are legit super catchy. I watched the hell out of all the unofficial uploads on YouTube back in the day. I’m sure a good portion of my nostalgia comes from the show being my first exposure to novelty music inspired by the likes of Weird Al. Those two really knew how to craft a catchy little brainworm! Thanks for the boost of childhood warmth guys, and I hope you cover more 2000’s toons soon (I’d pay for a Ben 10 WAC if I had the money for it)
Tashmon Dimps
2023-10-02 22:00:15 +0000 UTCfriends i am legit cackling at the notion that king gizzard are a top contemporary rock band. cult favorites, maybe, but to put their wigged-out psychedelic music alongside mainstream arena acts like imagine dragons and twenty-one pilots is wild to me. 'nonagon infinity' and 'flying microtonal banana' are top-notch albums though. oh, and paul mccartney was the bassist in the beatles, not george harrison. anyway i always appreciated the way P+F built up and almost immediately subverted their own formula. the costumed characters in the parks are pretty terrifying, with phineas's design especially suffering in the conversion to human proportion. there's also a giant roly-poly perry the platypus character they sometimes bring out.
Eric Schuman
2023-10-02 18:43:33 +0000 UTCP + F is a fun show by Disney Channel standards but it's also one that has those vibes where it knows that it's clever and constantly wants YOU to know that it's clever. I usually found the two lead characters to be the least interesting part of it mainly because of how infallible they always seemed to be. I was in high school but still circled the big 3 of kids tv to see what cartoons were being offered, so I too greatly preferred just how dark, grotesque, and cynical Flapjack was in comparison. Still, it's no small feat to pull off an original song in every episode. Though I don't know if they reached the musical heights of the Donkey Kong Country cartoon where you have hits like the Banana Do-Si-Do and Cranky Kong singing about what a hologram is
Blake R.
2023-10-02 17:39:43 +0000 UTCThat is his stage name. :/
Bradford A Barker
2023-10-02 16:11:52 +0000 UTCI love that in a discussion of how no one remembers bassists, Bob names the drummer of Green Day instead of the bassist. Mike Dirnt should’ve made a stage name.
Peter Hanneman
2023-10-02 14:59:14 +0000 UTCFYI - the hulurama opening of futurama is shown on the U.K. version of Disney+
Alistair Shand aka Bongo
2023-10-02 11:45:53 +0000 UTCthat the KISS cartoon? I remember it'd be on Nick at like 6 AM lol
Frank Grimes
2023-10-02 11:23:01 +0000 UTCThe majority of the time your personal experience with a show 80's or 90's is very similar to mine, as I was born in the same year you both were and am part of the cusp Xennial generation but my experience with this show is very different as I had kids in my late 20's. Back when the kids were young and we still had cable TV, we'd leave it on the Disney channels (Regular, Junior and XD), as they has less ads than the other channels. Phineas And Ferb was one of the shows that was on multiple times a day, so I've seen pretty much every episode without seeking it out, it was just served to me while being with the kids. The thing that in my mind made this show special was something that I think is hard to cover in just one episode or just watching the "best " ones. Every episode is almost exactly the same in that the kids have a plan, their sister tries to bust them and their mum is oblivious, while in parallel Doofenshmirtz has an evil plan, Perry has to stop him and the boys are oblivious. The best episodes are the ones where one of these constant elements change and the characters have to deal with this seeming break in their reality. I'm not sure if this was planned from the start but it's what I liked about it when watching it almost daily. It was also impressive that every episode had it's own song. I also liked the follow-up shows Milo Murphy's Law and Hamster & Gretel, which the kids more actively sought out due to them having Phineas And Ferb on so much when they were little.
David Thomson
2023-10-02 10:01:17 +0000 UTCDamn Finally a reason for me to check out a show I was slightly too old for when I was a teen but now in my early 30’s I’m ready for this Being a slightly middle aged millennial I was into the shows like “My Dad is a rockstar” and other cartoons bouncing around Im surprised I resisted giving this a shot seeing how popular it became Looking forward to listening to some elder millennials discuss how they see this IMO classic lol
Tyler the Destroyer
2023-10-02 04:59:09 +0000 UTC
