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Talk to the Audience?!? - October 2023

We've reached the end of the month, which means it's once again time for another installment of our community podcast! Join us as we discuss the dawn of season 35, new Simpsons-themed shoes, the legendary caramel on the ceiling of the writers' room, a real-life Moe's Tavern in Austin, and more.  And, as always, we read and respond to your questions and comments from the most recent round of episodes. It's all happening on this month's Talk to the Audience—the only podcast more entertaining than a movie starring Liza Minelli and Mickey Rourke!

Talk to the Audience?!? - October 2023

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Re: if there's a talking simspons discord I wouldn't mind getting back into monster hunter on steam. I got both and their expansions and have been hunting since the psp titles

Gonzalo

Bob thank you for articulating my basic feelings about 2d Mario. I also have kept buying the New Super Mario games and not liking them the way I did SNES Mario. I thought maybe I just outgrew Mario games because they kept getting good reviews but I just wasn't enjoying them.

Burt Stanton

Here's a cool video that does a nice comparison between a classic simpsons season and a slightly modern scene. Though it's from a game that probably had a different production pipeline, the video goes over some pretty cool facts on how production pipelines change for animated shows and how character model sheets are affected along the way (rules that change or get stricter). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_91Id0ZYGY Big agree with Daran's post. The character's are still being hand drawn. Looking (very) closely at the character's lines and proportions you can see subtle imperfections that rigged/puppeted animation doesn't (normally) capture. The main moments where there's specific digital assistance for movement is typically for simple walk cycles where the character's body (outside the legs and arms) doesn't need to be redrawn.

JoesShockingToons

Hey I’M the resident 23 year old on this patreon

Bryce Hope

Re: One Piece, a lot of people do talk about skipping Thriller Bark (and Skypeia), but I enjoyed it even if it dragged a bit at times. I remember finding it often very fun, and builds some important lore. The next major arc is a banger, though! I'm excited to hear both your continued thoughts as you progress. (Also have to say the current chapters are incredible. It's not the worst plan to stop consuming all other media for several months and get caught up ;D )

J. Tenter

Bob, you keep hearing the complaints (like from me) not because Kavner is getting worse—"those lousy writers" are just giving her more and more to say, and it's getting more noticeable, especially when she's speaking for monologues at a time. It's elder abuse at this point. (I will say that the look of horror Tom Kenny gave me over the summer when I made the comparison "It's like hearing Mel Blanc do Yosemite Sam in 1988" was priceless.)

Thad Komorowski

Thank you guys so much for reading my comment! And I apologize for any Hank/Henry confusion. From now on, Henry Gilbert will be known as GH, or Good Hank.

Matt LS

OMG! You read my question! Honored.

Jammy Cooks

The Austin Moe’s is always over the top! Tons of neat little touches everywhere. I try to go at least once every year but it’s a tiny bar and always packed. The drinks are especially fun but $$$. The first night Bill Oakley was there my bar tab was unspeakable.

Sarah Sepanek

I’d love for both Bob and Henry to check out Pizza Slice when they visit Tokyo (Shibuya/omotensando), if they have time! It’s literally the only pizza I eat whenever I get those cravings, and considering the experience clearly being conveyed, I’m super curious to know where it ranks!

Adam

Goblin are so dope! And super unique too, they're essentially the driving force behind synth Horror scores throughout the 80's. I was fortunate enough to see an orig print of Suspiria back in Melbourne about ten years back, for which Goblin attended and performed the entire score live. It was pretty spesh <3

Rob MacBride

Caveat: I work in animation and I apologize if some of this is too inside baseball and long-winded. Also, some of these are just educated guesses based on what I believe the show's current pipeline is like these days. The show is way too rigid, but it's not because they're using digital puppets or anything. The show has a digital pipeline but it's still being hand-drawn, just directly into a program, probably ToonBoom Harmony. It looks rigid mostly because of how the animation's movement is TIMED. The motion has always been timed very evenly on the show but now with it having a digital hand-drawn pipeline, the little fuck-ups innate to the mutliple steps of translating from paper layouts to paper animation to paper cleanup to digital color are greatly minimized. I'm glad you mention the sequences where they over compensate. They have Nik Ranieri doing a lot of the really grandiose stuff and frankly his acting preferences are waaaay too broad for my liking. He appears to do a lot of "breakdown" drawings in his scenes, mainly to compensate for the lack of special animation timing. It's an incredibly imperfect way of accomplishing this though because animation timing is what helps create weight and is often responsible for creating fluid arcs in movement. No shade to the overseas staff, they're trying to follow the directions given to them and a lot of things involving animation timing (even if they are provided with timing charts) are very much in the eye of the beholder. They're often doing the SAFEST way to not potentially get called out for notes from the show's in-house staff, which often results in more lifeless animation. ALSO!! A lot of the characters being way too on model can also be blamed on Fox executives, not just Matt Groening lol! The execs are INCREDIBLY picky and unimaginative, they often do assume anything fun looking is bad or wrong. Same with how nothing on Fox is allowed to look too different, a lot of the executive suite believes animation can only and SHOULD look the way their shows look. But yeah, the show is definitely way more digitally assisted than it used to be, it's just not to the level of Flash puppets or anything. (I also am a Flash animator and can fill a book of good vs. bad Flash rigging.) Btw, I worked on the Metalocalypse movie! Cool you got to attend one of those Dethklok shows!

Daran

Gave a good fist-pump in agreement to Bob's assessment about Mario Maker having an impact on the design of Mario Wonder. There's a lot of variation to the goals to complete a level, with ideas right out of Mario Maker. And all this complements the standard levels that seem to introduce new enemy types and mechanics about every level. Looking forward to the review on the other podcast.

Bradford A Barker

Anchovy pizza talk making me really hungry

Lambda

I'm a fellow 80s/90s kid so I have no idea what the youth of the world is into these days, musically speaking. I am a fan of the band Ghost though and I don't know how or why it happened but that group somehow became one of the biggest rock/metal acts in the world. I saw them opening for more extreme acts 10+ years ago with their Satanic pope routine on stage and thought they were a riot. Not sure how they became mainstream, but when I saw them over the summer it was in a massive, sold out, outdoor arena (and my cousin's teenaged son came with us so maybe the kids like Ghost?). Now it has me wondering if the Satanic Doo Wop group, Twin Temple, that I saw as an opener for Danzig last month will suddenly explode in popularity. That group was certainly an experience.

Joe Hodgson

25 year old here. I subscribe to your Patreon to be told what the 90s where like. Also, I feel like psych rock has been in a big resurgence the past few years and a lot of people my age do love listening to weirdo rock bands who sing about rivers or lava lamps. Also a good benefit of modern rock bands like King Gizzard is they’re very supportive of transgender fans (like myself) and good leftist politics.

tiny crow

On a separate note, I believe there is a dvd version of Sweeney Todd featuring the original cast members of Angela Lansbury and Len Cariou

Punkheart11

Hey Bob, if you like spooky rock music I would highly recommend Aurelio Voltaire. He's a songwriter/artist who pretty much only sings about spooky Scary stuff but he also has a nerd album where he sings about starwars and startrek. He also did a couple of songs for "The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy"

Punkheart11

I would absolutely love it if y'all did a game center CX episode in April. I started rewatching episodes earlier this year. I know there was an episode on your other podcast. But that was around 10 years ago, and Nina must have an insane amount of insight does she could add.

Shane H

I also got to go to that Metalocalypse, BABYMETAL, babyklok tour. And it made my cynical heart proud that the people sitting next to us by Pure randomness where is mega home movies fans as we were. (Most people were there for baby metal at the Philly show)

Andrew Giachetti

I did a similar Japan trip in Feb/Mar earlier this year, just before the pandemic restrictions started to end. Got the same Japan Rail pass and it made getting back and forth between Tokyo/Osaka//Kyoto so easy. I’m sure you’ll love it and hopefully Nina is ok with all the translating she’ll be doing for Bob!

Chris B

Hey Bob, I'll b happy to hunt with you! I've got daybreak on the switch and ice borne on the ps. But I can grab daybreak on ps, I mostly use switch axe, gun lance and hammer.

That Guy, Joe

The YouTube channel Simpsons Theory shouted out the animation in its last review :)

Dan Karlin

Itchy.

SlothIsLegend

Which one's the mouse?

Adam Azzalino


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