Game of Thrones 4x3 Breaker of Chains Early Reaction!

Yiiiikes!

Eric Reacts

Yeah that's my understanding as well

Tron

Yay, for Bi-representation!

A bit long, but here's what GRRM had to say about it. “In the novels, Jaime is not present at Joffrey’s death, and indeed, Cersei has been fearful that he is dead himself, that she has lost both the son and the father/ lover/ brother. And then suddenly Jaime is there before her. Maimed and changed, but Jaime nonetheless. Though the time and place is wildly inappropriate and Cersei is fearful of discovery, she is as hungry for him as he is for her. The whole dynamic is different in the show, where Jaime has been back for weeks at the least, maybe longer, and he and Cersei have been in each other’s company on numerous occasions, often quarreling. The setting is the same, but neither character is in the same place as in the books, which may be why [producers] played the sept out differently. But that’s just my surmise; we never discussed this scene, to the best of my recollection. Also, I was writing the scene from Jaime’s POV, so the reader is inside his head, hearing his thoughts. On the TV show, the camera is necessarily external. You don’t know what anyone is thinking or feeling, just what they are saying and doing. If the show had retained some of Cersei’s dialogue from the books, it might have left a somewhat different impression — but that dialogue was very much shaped by the circumstances of the books, delivered by a woman who is seeing her lover again for the first time after a long while apart during which she feared he was dead. I am not sure it would have worked with the new timeline. That’s really all I can say on this issue. The scene was always intended to be disturbing… but I do regret if it has disturbed people for the wrong reasons.”

PaulaC

It’s super out of character! It’s kind of hard not to pretend it never happened as someone for whom Jaime is my favorite character. :( In the books, though, Cersei still says “stop,” yet Jaime proceeds. It’s still an issue. Consent should really be enthusiastic, you know?

Jessica (petaljammies)

Yep it was a huge mistake - in the books it was consensual, if energetic. It's out of character for Jaime - rape is something he doesn't like as he had to listen to the Mad King basically repeatedly raping his wife - it's the reason he intervenes, at the cost of his hand, to stop Brienne being raped. The GoT Wiki has the following about it: "...the implication that Jaime was raping Cersei was never intended by the writers, not in the script, and was the accidental result of flawed camerawork and editing. Both the actors and director have publicly stated that they were never told this was intended as a rape scene nor did they play it as such".

That scene was supposed to be consensual. The writers, directors, and actors all agree that it was supposed to be consensual. Jaime was supposed to be aggressive while Cersei was afraid of being caught fucking her brother in a church but was still into it. Maybe they thought what was in their heads was playing out on screen. They were wrong. Most of the fandom has chosen to forget that scene ever happened because what they showed was rape, but that wasn’t the intention. They botched it BIG TIME.

PaulaC