The Goonies Full Movie Reaction!
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I love this reaction, and to one of the biggest classics of the 80s. My comments keep disappearing, so I'm sorry if you got a lot of them in your email. I keep having to repost. "Are they blowing up the prison?" No. They were just setting the front on fire to buy time to get away. Eric: "What are you doing in the middle of the street? I don't think Rosalita was just standing there. I think that's just the way the scene was cut. The implication was that she was in the middle of crossing the street when the cars came out of nowhere and caught her by surprise. But because they were coming from both sides, in both directions at once, she got caught in the middle of the road. Mouth: We could have been cruising the coast. Downing some brews.... Eric: What kind of kid talks like that? A lot. In the eighties especially, it was a thing for kids to talk in a drawn out, exaggerated way when they were pissed or being sarcastic. If you're referring to the fact that he's an underaged very young kid talking about cruising the coast and drinking, there are a lot of kids who do that too. A lot of boys will try to sound more like men to impress their friends, and I think it was an even bigger thing back then when there wasn't the same awareness about underaged drinking that there is now. When Data (Shortround) came into the house through the window on the rip cord... Eric: Data? The Star Trek character? LMAO. No. I'm not sure if you've seen Star Trek, or if you only know the character from social media, but Data is an android from Star Trek: The Next Generation (the first spinoff of the original), and the first season of Star Trek TNG came out in 1987. Goonies came out in 1985, two years before Star Trek: TNG happened. The similarity in name is pure coincidence, since the only similarity the characters have is that both are smart and highly technical. As you see later in the film, Data's dad is also very smart (his inventions are meant to indicate this) so it makes sense that he would give his son such a name. Oh, but that said, it's interesting that the mom later messes up his name, calling him Data pronounced with an Oh sound instead of an ay, as in day. In Star Trek TNG, there is a character who mispronounces the android Data's name the same way. He eventually corrects her. It's interesting that said character, one Doctor Polaski, doesn't see Data as equal to humans, that as an android, he doesn't deserve the same respect. There are hints as to this throughout her short time on the series, and it's something she learns to correct over time, eventually learning to accept him the same way the rest of the Enterprise crew has. I don't think the mother in this film mispronounced Data's name out of lack of respect. She regularly mispronounces words, to the point where it's a running gag in the movie, and you'll notice Mikey has picked up the same habit. It's just another odd coincidence. Mikey: That's my mom's most favorite piece! Mouth: *Wouldn't be here if it wasn't. Eric: What kid talks like that? Again, plenty. Mouth in particular is very adult in his thinking (not necessarily mature, but very sort of....dirty humor type). The horney teenaged boy thing is a very common eighties trope, and having been the subject of much dirty joking in school at the time, I can tell you, it's not entirely inaccurate, though in the eighties, in movies, it was played up or exaggerated for humor. As for the Truffle Shuffle, that scene is iconic. Speaking in completely politically correct terms, making fun of a chunky kid like that wouldn't fly now, and I'm glad there is more awareness of it now, but in the eighties people didn't really think like that. Chunk is their friend, and back then, people didn't really take things as personally, which is why he's still considered one of them, and a short time later, it's as if it never even happened and he's fine with them. I love eighties movies, but the one downside of watching them from the standpoint of a modern audience is that a lot of the humor can seem a bit odd. It was a different time. There was a lot of adult humor in this movie that I missed as a kid. It's still common for kids movies to inject this type of humor because they thought it would go over a kid's head, but adults would get it, which made the movie easy to relate to for both the kids and the parents who had to watch it with them. For example, when Mouth talks to Rosalita in Spanish about the sexual torture devices, you have to wonder about what kind of guy Mouth's father was that he would even think of things like that. Or, less darkly, what sort of TV the kid must have watched when his parents were not around. Chunk: Looks fine to me. Eric: Looks fine to me?! LOL, that went over my head as a kid, but now it makes me laugh. I'm not sure if you picked up on this, but the way I read that gag is, Chunk had a woody so often that to him, it seemed normal that the statue's equipment was standing up instead of down. Again, more horney teenaged boy humor. Oh, and did you hear what Mikey and Bran's mom said? "If he's coming down with athsma...." You can't come down with athsma. LOL It's not a cold. It's a humorous way of either indicating that she doesn't understand how it works, or that we as a society didn't quite get the medical implications of it. Or, since Mikey suddenly tossed his inhaler aside at the end and said "Who needs it?", that his athsma came and went the way a cold does, implying that maybe it was just psychosomatic, as in all in his head. Bran: My tires! My tires... Eric: Don't just have to pump more air into them? Yes. But you need a pump to do that, and plenty of people didn't have one on hand and would have to take the bike to a shop to fill the tire. Put simply, the process is a little more complicated then he has time for if he's going to catch up with Mikey. He took the little girl's bike out of desperation. Earlier, Mouth mentioned that Bran flunked his driver's test, and that's why they can't go out for a night on the town on their last day together. Without a license, Bran would have to walk, and he'd never catch up to his brother and the others on foot when they are on bikes. I actually thought it was a smart move on the writer's part, having the kids call the treasure "rich stuff." Treasure would have sounded too corny. It would have been a too on the nose reminder that the movie is a treasure hunt. Rich stuff keeps it more modern and and makes it feel more contemporary. They only call it treasure when the situation fits, and usually after they are so far along on the adventure that we've already seen the booby traps and other things that put us firmly in "treasure hunt" mode, at which point, we wouldn't question it. "Did they base the Stranger Things... on this dynamic?" YES!!! Nice catch! Stranger Things is in fact meant to pay homage to a lot of eighties movies, shows and books. It particularly pays homage to Stephen King's brand of suspense and horror, which is why the title card for the show has the font in the exact same font as is used on a lot of older Stephen King works. The group dynamic in Stranger things is primarily based off of Stephen King's It, a story about a group of kids like the ones in this movie, who overthrow an evil in their town. But it's been confirmed that the show draws heavily from Goonies as well. Love Stranger Things, btw. "What's his actual name? I feel bad calling him Chunk." Don't. It was the name they chose for him, and at the time that you said that, they hadn't said his real name yet. At the end of the movie, when he and Sloth rescue the others, he enthusiastically calls himself Captain Chunk, suggesting he's happy with the name. I'm leaving these comments as I watch so I won't forget later, so if you noticed it after, forgive me. But for the sake of thoroughness, in case you missed it, his real name is Lawrence. The cop he calls later says it on the phone. Yeah, Mikey calling Sloth an it doesn't age well, but back then, when a kid saw an disfigured guy like him, having only seen his face for a second and being scared, that's how people would have viewed him. People like Sloth were still considered freaks. This is why Mamma Fertelli chained him to a wall. It's a play off of how people used to treat people like Sloth in much earlier times, locking him up and hiding him from the world. I can totally see a woman like her doing that, and same with his two brothers, her two other sons doing that, especially when they are criminals and wouldn't have wanted anything to do with the system people would have normally employed to care for him properly. It's very sweet that the kids learn to accept and not be afraid of him, and since, at the end, he would have had no one, it's sweet that Chunk wanted to take care of him. "Did they really forget about Chunk?" Yes, at first. The implication is that the scene was very chaotic, there were a lot of kids in a very small space, and they were panicked with the return of the Fertellis. They didn't realize he'd gotten stuck in the freezer with the stiff because they were only focused on getting into the tunnel. "You could have gotten yourself out of there the entire time?" No. We saw him trapped behind the stiff, trying to push the body up so that he could get to the door, but it kept falling over. When he finally opened the door, the implication was that he was finally able to get the body on an angle that he could stand it up long enough to get passed it and get the door open. It wasn't that the door was locked. It was that the body was in his way. "You're really going to get separated at this point in time?" Well, in theory, it was a good idea for Chunk to go and get the police. The Fertellis are criminals, and if they had come after the kids, which they later did, it was a good idea for one of the kids to report them to the police. The kids thought there was a way out through the tunnel, except that it wasn't a way out, and then one of the booby traps got set off, forcing the kids to keep going until there was really no going back. In sending Chunk to get the police, they were both trying to do the right thing, and prevent the Fertellis from catching them. Oh, and there is a chance they thought that Chunk might get stuck in the entrance to the passage. It was hard for some of them to go down, and Chunk is wider than they are, so they might have had a cork in a bottle situation on their hands if he had tried to go down. It would have worked had Chunk not ended up running into one of the Fertelli guys. About the one old guy in the showers with the eye patch. I originally thought that, since it had no relevance to the plot, maybe the actor's eye patch was real. Interesting things like that happen in movies. But, having seen this movie so many times and now knowing where it's all going, I wonder if the eye patch was just a neat way of foreshadowing the whole pirate thing, especially considering that the pirate, One Eyed Willie, actually had an eye patch. It's an interesting thing about Andy's whole thing with being traumatized and going on about Troy looking down her shirt, and how there's nothing wrong with it. I've heard a lot of people who react to this movie complain about her thinking Troy doing that is okay. I don't understand how so many people miss what's happening there when it's so damned obvious. She didn't really think it was cool for the guy to be looking down her shirt. In fact, earlier ,she said he kept moving the mirror to look down her shirt and she elbowed him. The implication they were going for there was that she was babbling incoherently because she was traumatized, and in saying, "Troy was looking down my shirt... There's nothing wrong with that," she was implying that she'd rather have a creepy boy look down her shirt than be running away from criminals in a scary tunnel, possibly about to get killed. So, a creepy boy has a little peep, versus getting shot. I dunno, I'm kinda with Andy, here. LOL People need to learn to stop seeing everything so much through a political correctness lens that they miss the point and see everything as some anti-female attempt to demoralize or insult women when it isn't anything of of the sort. Seeing all the elaborate booby traps that showed up later in the movie, I think the one that was at the house to get the gate open was very clever. It implies that when Mikey's dad told him about One Eyed Willie and all his booby traps and things, Mikey found the whole thing so fascinating that he had some of his own fun building one for the gate. I can even see him and his dad devising it together as sort of a fun father and son activity. It suggests that Mikey's dad is a very adventurous type who was really into pirate stories. And that, perhaps, his dad believed the legends about One Eyed Willie were in fact real. "I thought he was going to set the dynamite." He did. I think (though I could be wrong) the sparks were supposed to be from the booby traps that Data set, but the Fertellis just thought it was part of another booby trap like the others they would have seen up to that point, the ones set by Willie and his men. The thing is, by the time the Fertellis set them off, the kids were too far away to hear them go off. Remember, except for Mikey, the kids never intended to go this far. The booby trap forced them to keep going because it cut off the way back. By the way, when the sherrif made that comment on the phone with Chunk about a story he told where little monsters multiply when you get water on them.... This is a reference to a hugely popular classic called Gremlins. It came out a year before this movie, in 1984. There is a small creature in the film that multiples when you get water on him. "Why else did you think they would call him that?" I think Mikey just wasn't expecting him to actually only have one eye for real. Also, the name could imply he lost an eye in a fight, earning him the pirate name One Eyed Willie. That kind of thing makes sense. But if you look at the eye socket when Mikey lifts the patch, there is no actual socket. It's bone where the hole should be. That implies he was born with one eye, as a deformity. So Mikey's shock was in discovering that he didn't earn this badass scary pirate name in a fight, but that he was born that way. Yes, Mikey is Samwise. :D He was also in Stranger Things. Edit: I see you looked that up later. He was fourteen at the time of this film, but it was common for kids to play characters younger than they actually are, so Mikey might have been more like twelve. "Don't they have guns?" Yes, but the one gun we saw up to this point the guy dropped when Data fell into him. It fell down into the part of the floor that collapsed on Data earlier. Maybe the others have guns, and I guess you could be right, but this is a kid's move, so they have to figure out ways to keep the villains from being too violent or scary. That's why they included things like the cartoon sound effects, and made the villains kind of oafish, so that it wouldn't be too scary for kids to watch. I think some of the sticks were candles and others were dynamite, because Data used some earlier to set the traps, but in the ending scene, he grabbed something he thought was a candle. This suggests there were some of each, and when he lit it, he realized he grabbed the wrong one. It's a reasonable mistake in an area that isn't well lit when you're panicking. LOL "Was that supposed to be a compliment?" Yes. Several lines of dialogue from Mouth suggest he tries to play himself off as a tough guy. Also, throughout the movie, there are lines that suggest they don't like each other. So in order to keep up the tough guy image and not be too sappy, he has to pay her a compliment, but then downplay it with an insult. Again, this movie is from a different time that isn't going to follow the same modern sensibilities we follow now. He meant what he said, he thinks she's pretty, but as a young boy who doesn't know what to do with that, he offsets it with downplay. This movie was extremely different and innovative, with a lot of things that had never been done before at the time it came out. it's a shame that so much of what we got here has been overused to the point where, what was once very original material now looks like imitative cliches. Again, great reaction. Looking forward to your next movie!
Raven Dark
2021-09-10 14:27:15 +0000 UTC