Ep. 28: The Asymptotic 'Two State Solution' (Part I)
Added 2018-02-28 16:23:41 +0000 UTCThe idea that there exists an ongoing effort to achieve a “two-state solution” in Israel and Palestine - often referred to as The Middle East Peace Process™ - is uniformly taken for granted by American media. This "two-state solution" is always at different stages of viability, yet never quite works out. Presidents fail to achieve it; Palestinian violence makes it "more difficult"; Israeli settlements are "unhelpful" to it.
But how honest is this effort? How are nonstop obituaries for a phantom "process" helping to maintain the status quo, or worse? How much does this infinitely regressive effort deliberately mask an ongoing and active policy of ethnic cleansing by the Israelis in the West Bank and Gaza?
In Part I of this two-part episode, we discuss this "two-state" racket with Professor Noura Erakat.
The Guest
Noura Erakat is a human rights attorney and an Assistant Professor at George Mason University. In addition to teaching international human rights law in the Middle East at Georgetown University, Noura is a co-founding editor of the digital magazine Jadaliyya and is a frequent presence on national and international broadcasts, including CNN, NPR, NBC, PBS, BBC, Democracy Now!, and Al Jazeera. Her work has been featured in The New York Times, Los Angeles Review of Books, The Nation, Foreign Policy, Jezebel, Al Jazeera, and elsewhere.
Show Notes
The Real Reason Israel Attacks Gaza
Noura Erakat | July 20, 2016 | The Nation
Recycled Obituaries for the Always-Elusive "Two-State Solution"
Nima Shirazi | January 6, 2018 | Wide Asleep In America
The Myriad Deaths of Liberal Zionism
Nima Shirazi | January 9, 2018 | Wide Asleep In America
‘Time is running out’: The peace process and the fierce urgency of never
Max Blumenthal | December 25, 2013 | Mondoweiss
“Beirut” and the Myth of Endless Middle East Conflict
Joseph Leone | January 26, 2018 | Muftah
Top PM Aide: Gaza Plan Aims to Freeze the Peace Process
Ari Shavit | October 6, 2004 | Ha'aretz
The Thin Green Line: It's Not Just the Settlements (or the Occupation), Stupid!
Nima Shirazi | September 10, 2010 | Wide Asleep In America
After Trump’s Jerusalem Move, Media Worry About ‘Violence’–Not Violation of International Law
Nima Shirazi and Adam Johnson | December 8, 2017 | FAIR
References
House of Lords, UK Parliament - HL Deb 21 June 1922 vol 50 cc994-1033
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For the full episode transcript, see here.
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(Post image by Hamde Abu Rahma)
Comments
i have a confession to make; i ve been spreading Citations Needed propaganda in any way possible. Keep up the great work here and on your other outlets, thanks
Emma & Brian
2018-03-03 06:31:19 +0000 UTCTo get - I understand, but the same can be said with us which is Christian customs and school holidays.
Marc Mayerson
2018-03-03 05:46:06 +0000 UTCNo, i think critque of colonial project (hashemite/saudi) established in 1922 by Churchill, with 80 percent indigent population.
Marc Mayerson
2018-03-03 05:44:17 +0000 UTCNima did a great job all episode.
2018-03-01 14:31:35 +0000 UTCNo one in palestine wants shariah law gtfo. 1 country equal rights for all regardless of religion. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
GFY
2018-03-01 12:38:31 +0000 UTCYeah, like that ethnostate religious supremacist state Israel, and all its democratic principles. What's your argument here? Arabs are genetically or culturally averse to democracy or something?
Hampus Bystrom
2018-03-01 07:34:09 +0000 UTCokay, but know that literally the same arguments were made against ending apartheid .
Citations Needed
2018-03-01 04:27:43 +0000 UTCokay, so a Jewish minority in an Arabic speaking country. I'm curious about data too about white South African exodus. and possibly democratically adopted shariah law, relegating Jews to diminished citizenship.
Marc Mayerson
2018-03-01 04:01:11 +0000 UTCwhat happened with the white population in South Africa? Did they all vanish?
Citations Needed
2018-03-01 02:57:07 +0000 UTCI would love to hear also about Jordan and how Palestinians apply their principles as applied.
Marc Mayerson
2018-03-01 02:53:27 +0000 UTCWhat's the plan? Make Israelis like Walloons in Belgium? Then let's hear that seriously advanced by Palestinians. Otherwise, two states are needed.
Marc Mayerson
2018-03-01 02:52:09 +0000 UTCOne should address what is to be done with Israel, Israelis, Hebrew, and Israeli cultural technological civilzatio n. The reclamation and revival of nobel-prize winning Hebrew language is remarkable
Marc Mayerson
2018-03-01 02:49:49 +0000 UTC
