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Ep. 108: How GDP Fetishism Drives Climate Crisis and Inequality

"Economists' forecasts for GDP growth in 2020 vary widely," says The Economist. "Algeria's GDP growth falls to 0.8% in 2019," one Reuters headline reads. "GDP — the broadest measure of economic activity — grew at an annual rate of just 1.9% during the third quarter," NPR warns. Everywhere we turn for economic news, the Gross Domestic Product, or GDP, is held up as the key proxy for prosperity and sound fiscal policy. 

Since its codification as the new gold standard for measuring prosperity at the Bretton Wood conference in 1944, the GDP has been the most popular metric used by American and British media when measure a nation’s prosperity. The GDP, and its close cousin, the Gross National Product, have not been without its critics for decades, but prying it from its top position as The Most Important Policy Goal has been an impossible task. Despite many labor activists, environmentalists and economists leveling critiques at its myopic, capitalist ideology, the metric has remained central to how the media and lawmakers determine fiscal policy. 

But what is the GDP exactly? How did it become the go-to proxy for prosperity in Western media? What are its ideological inputs, and how did post-war notions of colonialism and extractivism helps cement its place in our collective mindset? And what, more importantly, do activists argue we should replace it with? On this episode of Citations Needed we will explore these questions and examine how centralizing Gross Domestic Product––by its very design––obscures climate crisis, labor abuses, racism, drudgery, and a whole host of society's ills. 

We welcome economic anthropologist Dr. Jason Hickel back to the show.

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Guest

Dr. Jason Hickel is an economic anthropologist, author, and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts. He is a Senior Lecturer at Goldsmiths, University of London. He serves on the Labour Party task force on international development, the Statistical Advisory Panel for the Human Development Report 2020, the advisory board of the Green New Deal for Europe, and on the Lancet Commission on Reparations and Redistributive Justice. Jason's most recent book is The Divide: A Brief Guide to Global Inequality and its Solutions (Penguin Random House, 2017). In addition to his academic work, Jason writes regularly for The Guardian and Foreign Policy. Follow him @jasonhickel.

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Show Notes

We can’t grow our way out of poverty

Jason Hickel | April 20, 2020 | New Internationalist

Degrowth: a theory of radical abundance [PDF]

Jason Hickel | March 19, 2019 | real-world economics review

Heres A Simple Solution to the Green Growth / Degrowth Debate

Jason Hickel | November 1, 2018

Life in a ‘degrowth’ economy, and why you might actually enjoy it

Samuel Alexander | October 1, 2014 | The Conversation

The Dawning of GDP’s Hegemony

Daphne Wysham | October 12, 2011 | Institute for Policy Studies

Measuring Progress

Daphne Wysham | October 24, 2011 | Institute for Policy Studies

Our phony economy

Jonathan Rowe | June 2008 | Harper's Magazine

Gross Domestic Product as a Measure of U.S. Production [PDF]

Bureau of Economic Analysis | August 1991 | Department of Commerce

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Transcript

For a full transcript of this episode, go here.

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Ep. 108: How GDP Fetishism Drives Climate Crisis and Inequality

Comments

loved this episode! the general concept of a post growth economy is incredibly intruiging to me so I am super excited to pick up Jason's book. There's a libertarian narrative that is strongly pushed that markets and capitalism are a 1:1 relationship, in that any alternative to capitalism means centralizing control of the economy to a single body, and therefore is unherently "unfree". David Graeber explores this a bit in "Debt: The First 5000 Years", and you guys have in this episode. It kind of plays into eco-facism and the idea that the climate situation we're in is just humanity in its natural state, and not a product of the way our economy is organized. I would love to hear this, and eco-facism in general, covered more in depth!

Awesome show as always! You should go on Rising

Love this topic! Excited to listen!

Danil Thorstensson


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