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Ep 142: The Summer of Anti-BLM Backlash and How Concepts of "Crime" Were Shaped By the Propertied Class

"Concerns rising inside White House over surge in violent crime," CNN tells us. "America's Crime Surge: Why Violence Is Rising, And Solutions To Fix It," proclaims NPR. "Officials worry the rise in violent crime portends a bloody summer," reports The Washington Post.

Over and over this summer we have heard – and will no doubt continue to hear – the scourge of rising crime is the most urgent issue on voters' minds. Setting aside the way media coverage itself shape public opinion, the rising murder rates in urban areas is indeed very real and its victims disproportionately Black and Latino.

In response, like clockwork, Democrats and Democratic Party-aligned media have allied with conservatives and right-wing media are rehashing the same tired responses: more police, longer sentences, and tougher laws. But this time, they assure us it will be different: it won’t be racist and overly punitive. Instead, in addition to the return of 1990s Tough On Crime formula. we will get enough nebulous reforms and anti-bias training that it will somehow be enlightened and consistent with the demands of Black Lives Matter.

But everything we know about the past 50 years tells us this will not be true. Indeed, if more policing and prisons solved crime, the United States would be the safest country on Earth, but, of course, it is not. According to The American Journal of Medicine, compared to 22 other high-income nations, the United States' gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher despite imprisoning people at rates 5-10 times what other rich nations do.

So why do lawmakers and the media always reach for the same so-called "solutions" when it comes to crime? What are the assumptions that inform how we respond to an increase in homicides and other violent crime? How can the wealthiest nation in the world throw billions of dollars, more police, longer sentences, and tougher prosecutors at our high murder rates only to continue to wildly outpacing the rest of the so-called developed world on this, the most urgent of metrics?

On this episode, we explore the origins of "crime," what crimes we consider noteworthy and which are ignored, how property rights and white supremacy informed the crime we center in our media, how the crimes of poverty, environmental destruction, wage theft, and discrimination are relegated to the arena of tort, with its gentle fines and drawn out lawsuits – while petty theft and drug use results in long prison sentences. We’ll study how these bifurcations inform both media accounts of crime and how we respond with more police, and longer sentences the second we are faced with so-called crime waves.

Our guests are Civil Rights Corps' Alec Karakatsanis and sociologist Tamara K. Nopper.

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Guests

Alec Karakatsanis is founder and executive director of Civil Rights Corps. A civil rights lawyer and former public defender in the District of Columbia and the State of Alabama, Alec is co-founder of the organization Equal Justice Under Law and author of the book Usual Cruelty: The Complicity of Lawyers in the Criminal Injustice System (New Press, 2019). You can follow him on Twitter @equalityAlec.

Dr. Tamara K. Nopper is a sociologist, writer, editor, and data artist. An affiliate at the Center for Critical Race and Digital Studies, whose research focuses on the intersection of economic, racial, and gender inequality, she is also editor of Mariame Kaba’s book, We Do This ‘Til We Free Us: Abolitionist Organizing and Transforming Justice (Haymarket Books, 2021), and wrote several data stories for Colin Kaepernick’s Abolition for the People series. You can follow her on Twitter @tamaranopper.

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Show Notes

Why “Crime” Isn’t the Question and Police Aren’t the Answer

Alec Karakatsanis | August 10, 2020 | Current Affairs

Abolition is Not a Suburb

Tamara K. Nopper | July 16, 2020 | The New Inquiry

Cop’s Don’t Stop Violence: Combating Narratives Used to Defend Police Instead of Defunding Them

Jared Knowles and Andrea J. Ritchie | July 2021 | Community Resource Hub / Interrupting Criminalization

Why People Misperceive Crime Trends (Chicago Is Not the Murder Capital)

Toni Monkovic and Jeff Asher | June 16, 2021 | The New York Times

Blaming BLM for Homicide Rise—and Excusing Massive Spike in Gun Sales

Eoin Higgins | July 20, 2021 | FAIR

Progressives Don’t Need to Downplay Rising Homicides

Eric Levitz | July 1, 2021 | New York Magazine

Cops Say Low Morale And Department Scrutiny Are Driving Them Away From The Job

Eric Westervelt | June 24, 2021 | NPR

How Do the Police Actually Spend Their Time?

Jeff Asher and Ben Horwitz | June 19, 2021 | The New York Times

End the City’s ShotSpotter Contract

Freddy Martinez and Lucy Parsons Labs | April 28, 2021 | South Side Weekly

We train police to be warriors — and then send them out to be social workers

Roge Karma | July 31, 2020 | Vox

Don’t conflate racial violence with crime

Tamara K. Nopper | May 17, 2021 | The Undefeated

The Punishment Bureaucracy: How to Think About “Criminal Justice Reform”

Alec Karakatsanis | March 28, 2019 | The Yale Law Journal

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Transcript

For a full transcript of this episode, go here.

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Ep 142: The Summer of Anti-BLM Backlash and How Concepts of "Crime" Were Shaped By the Propertied Class

Comments

Definitely a must listen. I sent this to everyone I know, especially the Alec interview. I listened to the interview twice.

Your take on "convict leasing" around 16 minutes in still has contemporary relevance. Let's not forget that if one looks deeply into Kamala Harris' political legacy you will see that when California reduced the punitive Biden-engendered Zero Tolerance sentencing of decades prior, state Attorney General Harris refused to release a lot of black men (& possibly women as well) that were eligible for sentence reduction as they were "needed" for firefighting and other coerced work while in the California penal system. Look it up if you're not aware!!

Mark Schneider

Another important overview/analysis! (Wouldn't hurt to include the 'evergreen' influence of crime dramas keeping fears irrationally heightened.) Enjoy your well-deserved break!

Adzerbahd Thinlyvale

Debates are widely considered a waste of time in leftist organizing spaces because of the great time investment required, the great potential for drama or "disqualifying" yourself, and the little yield of people that will be persuaded by watching the debate.

R&L

@17:15 does separately naming Tibet and China in your list of example societies/countries imply that you don't see Tibet as part of China?

R&L

You guys are so well versed and knowledgeable on different topics, would you guys ever consider debates if a opportunity arises?

thanks for another great season Adam, Florence, Julianne, Marco, Morgan, Nima, and Trendel

sensorsweep

Thanks, guys. This season was great. That last episode, honestly, is the best podcast I ever heard. Please keep up the great work. This episode moved me to bump up another level as patron.

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