Hunter x Hunter Episode 116 Reaction Extended (YT link below)
Added 2024-07-05 01:00:02 +0000 UTCIn Hunter x Hunter 116, Revenge x and x Recovery, Gon works himself up into a real thirst! Killua leaves to get some hydration beverages.
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"Loss of faith"? Gon's his friend, not his team leader or god. If Killua truly misunderstood their relationship and expected much more, that'd be on him. [But Killua didn't. He understands Gon deeply, both light and dark parts of him, little of this is a surprise -- instead, it's often just people trying too hard to extract patterns. Though tbf, I have the benefit of hindsight having seen later episodes ...]
SoreDakeNoKoto
2024-09-01 16:45:31 +0000 UTCThe conversation between Gon and Killua really calls to mind Sokka and Katara’s dialogue in The Southern Raiders. It’s the same emotional headspace. “You have it easy Killua. You never really cared.” “Then you didn’t love her like I did.” It’s justifying one’s feelings/course of action by distancing one’s self. “If you don’t agree with me, it’s not because you have a different perspective, but because you’re heartless!” It’s also totally understandable as a defense mechanism. If you are really passionate about something, it feels like a violation of your identity to admit you’re wrong about it. It’s easier for one’s self image to put the blame on the other, even if no one is in the wrong.
keyton bush
2024-07-07 05:01:56 +0000 UTCPitou healed kite to an extent, just to use him as a training dummy
Alexandrite Qween
2024-07-06 22:45:06 +0000 UTCTo us it's obvious what's going on, but even with the breathing mask on Komugi's face, there's really no telling whether she was being healed or for what purpose. This is why the narrator is so important and why I dislike the idea that it didn't need to be there.
Alexandrite Qween
2024-07-06 20:46:29 +0000 UTCPart of the reason why Gon and Killua’s relationship can be so problematic is because Gon sees their relationship as close, but also no big deal, like a friend he had met at school. Killua had a lot more at stake. I think Gon saw himself asking a lot of Killua as “Oh, Killua agreed, so it must be alright” not realizing what Killua was going through. Any signs he might have seen he probably ignored because of his tunnel vision. I think the scene in the tower shows Killua’s development. Gon’s words cut deep, but if Killua didn’t undergo his previous character arc, Gon words would have completely shattered him.
Chris Sharpe
2024-07-06 00:49:47 +0000 UTCI thought you were gonna say “but on a deeper level”
bl0odm1st
2024-07-05 21:47:14 +0000 UTCIf anyone asks me why i'm on patreon or why i engage with this content, without being reductionist, i'd say the discussion here is it. Also on the original watch, Gon's breathing there under the spotlight scared me more than a horror flick
finomenal
2024-07-05 17:54:47 +0000 UTCAlways love learning about title stuff like this!
Oak
2024-07-05 15:14:47 +0000 UTCHad a dream last night that you just uploaded a photoshopped movie poster of Paul Rudd with your face plastered over his. Not sure what to make of this.
bl0odm1st
2024-07-05 14:34:23 +0000 UTCI'm grateful for the discussion in the video and in the comments. It's a tough scenario to work through, and it hurts to watch. I don't have anything to add to the main discussion, but I do think, on a lighter note, that the title deserves a bit of credit. HxH episode titles are almost always some cheesy pun, but in this case, it works on multiple levels, I think. "Fuku-shuu x to x shuu-fuku" is revenge x and x recovery, but they're the same sounds in flipped order, so they're a mod to the role reversals and mirroring we see.
Ryan
2024-07-05 07:09:14 +0000 UTC*was. 😢
Ryan
2024-07-05 07:00:10 +0000 UTCI like this post a lot. I think that he can still fairly be viewed as a monster in a much more sympathetic way. This arc seems to be deliberately showing the depths of humanities capability for "evil"/rage/vengeance, and as you explained, it shows how one gets to those depths through Gon's journey. Togashi created such beautiful characters, showing so much relatability for such wide ranging backgrounds and emotional circumstances.
Sam B
2024-07-05 06:37:51 +0000 UTCVery nicely said, I agree. lots of sympathy to be had for Gon
Alex G
2024-07-05 04:55:11 +0000 UTCCentral staircase is #1!
Alex G
2024-07-05 04:49:31 +0000 UTCI remember that! Although they're very different, for me Gon fits much better in the Eren protagonist spot than he would Tanjiro or Deku
Alex G
2024-07-05 04:48:58 +0000 UTCHappy 4th!
Alex G
2024-07-05 04:29:06 +0000 UTCI see that adds a lot more that I hadn't considered
Alex G
2024-07-05 04:28:55 +0000 UTCAin't this some great television!
Jason Serrano
2024-07-05 04:26:07 +0000 UTCFrom Gon's perspective, he has had to wait for months and months for this moment, and everyone around him enabled him bottling up his emotions instead of talking about it, including Killua who specifically told Gon to focus entirely on Pitou and disregard even other people being killed right in front of him, but now that he finally gets to have that confrontation, he is told he must wait even more for the enemy's convenience... Pitou never waited for them back in NGL, so why should he? Why should he trust that Komugi is even an innocent person at this point? Killua trying to stop him now just comes across as hypocritical and insane from the perspective of the mission as this would be the perfect opportunity to maim/capture/kill Pitou instead of risking millions of lives. That's not to say that Killua is wrong for trying to stop Gon, but I dislike the way many people frame him as the paragon of morality here when he is mostly uncomfortable with the idea of Gon not being the "light" anymore, as well as concerned with how Gon might feel about this after the mission is over, I highly doubt he actually cares about Komugi when he was literally planning to sacrifice innocent people in the city to distract the Chimera Ants back when Gon had his Nen sealed. Killua is a child just like Gon and he is acting out of emotions just as much, he feels like he is losing what Gon is to him and because he attaches his worth to their relationship, he is stuck between not being able to confront him about it and watching him descend. He has fully committed to the role of support while Gon burns himself out (think of the Dodgeball game) instead of actually expressing how he really feels. Gon also has a lot at stake here, it's not just that Kite is a friend, he is his savior and the person most connected to Ging. To make it worse Gon feels responsible for what happened to Kite. If he can't save the man who saved him, he would feel worthless as a person and undeserving of being with Ging, so he must prove his worth, hence why he says "fight me so I can get Kite back" in that order; in his mind fighting and defeating Pitou is the trial he must pass first before receiving the reward of restoring Kite, if Kite is brought back without him having done anything he might as well have failed the "test". I really dislike when people make it about Gon being a "monster" here when he is just a kid with extreme self-esteem and identify issues who is being pulled in opposing directions by everyone around him, and is now forced to confront one of the most uncomfortable situations imaginable. It is, as he says, just unfair. I don't think the way Gon spoke was appropriate, he was unfairly lashing out at Killua, but there is some truth to the fact that saving Kite is not something Killua has to care about much, he is here because Gon is, and he cares because it affects Gon, but from Gon's perspective he is all alone in the rage and anguish he is experiencing, and that is truly one of the most frustrating feelings one can feel, it's very invalidating, like he is is suddenly being made to be the bad guy in the situation for having feelings. A healthy way of communicating this would have been something like: "I'm frustrated because it feels like I'm the only one who has to deal with this pain right now and you're sending me mixed messages". The tragedy here is that both Gon and Killua have very valid feelings about this situation but neither of them is equipped enough to have a conversation about it and communicate the issues their relationship has due to their trauma (Killua feeling like he will be abandoned if he isn't useful, Gon feeling like he will be abandoned if he isn't strong), it is not the one-sided conflict that people think it is, although Gon's mistakes are certainly more direct and hurtful.
madgod
2024-07-05 04:17:13 +0000 UTCGon: “Daijoubu.” Narrator: “He was not Daijoubu.” We’re finally seeing in full force the side of Gon so many before had seen in him. His single mindedness and lack of empathy for anything not a part of his main goal is at a maximum here. Gon gets pissed at Pitou for her hypocrisy, yet was fully willing to kill Pitou there, while also killing Komugi in the process. It’s the same thing Gon asked Chrollo. “How can you kill people who have nothing to do with you?”. Then we come to Pitou, who of the three royal guards, has been with us the longest, and had the biggest shift in perspective. When we met Pitou, she was much more like Youpi, willing to do whatever the King needed without thinking about it much. Now we’re seeing her come to realize she cares not just about the King, but the King as a person. She cares so deeply about the King’s feelings that she literally cried when he asked, (not simply ordered) for her to help Komugi, resulting in an overwhelming surge of emotion at the thought of being needed by the one she cares about the most. Her line about Komugi being someone important to someone important to her reminds me a lot of Ikalgo’s feelings toward Palm. He said something along the lines of “Palm’s a friend of a friend. That makes her my friend.”. Much like Ikalgo respects Palm, Pitou cares for Komugi through her connection to the King.
Oak
2024-07-05 03:57:28 +0000 UTCOh boy this episode did'nt have any action and still on of my favorites of the series. Pitou being so gift, so strong and yet willing to give everything for the king, for her mission is very sad and noble, but as you said that does'nt make her a good person of a "good guy" is just like life we are very complex there is a lot of gray on everyone. Also i love Gon reaction not that is a good thing nor is him right but i like that it shows consequences of the shounen protagonist mindset which is not discuss in other shows, with all the context we have from Gon his actions made perfect sense yet they are so painfull to watch, make me remmenber of when zepille met him and thought that his was very pure but also very dangerous.
Sonozaki Shinji
2024-07-05 03:55:46 +0000 UTCPersonally, most of the fan favorite characters fall short of my personal fave: Central staircase.
Tempheror
2024-07-05 03:55:38 +0000 UTC"Ah yes, my fourth favorite character: overhead peaceful shots" Behind, ofcourse, Gon's rage, the narrator, and Killua's outfit changes. Jokes aside, this is the episode that came to my mind the day you posted episode 1 of this series. A lot of groundwork has been laid to get us to this point. I mentioned in your first video how, even now, I don't really know what to think of Gon as an MC. While he maintains a lot of personality traits of other shounen MCs, he's something completely different all together. You typically have guys like Deku, or Tanjiro who are shinning ideals of something bigger, but Gon seems much more realistic to me. There's a raw animalistic side to him that I rarely see elsewhere. Interested to see your commentary at the end of this arc as there is a lot that is explored.
Alter Nate
2024-07-05 03:18:45 +0000 UTCHappy Fourth of July!
TallestGryphon
2024-07-05 02:50:32 +0000 UTCWhat Pitou said is actually very crucial and as opposed to what you said, shows a lot of character growth. She said, "the king is who he is because of this girl, and without her he wouldn't be who he is. So, I must save her." Pitou resonates with the kind of being the king is becoming, and a couple of episodes ago, it even moved her to tears. She wants the king to become Meruem as much as he can. And if this girl is what cultivates and fosters that part of him, she'll do what she can to save her. So, her saving Komugi isn't JUST cause the king asked. It's because of the influence she sees Komugi has on him.
ODIS
2024-07-05 02:33:41 +0000 UTCLoved the breakdown of gon and killua's respective worldviews and the associated difficulties. The idea of Killua's open mindedness being a burden is something I hadn't really thought about a ton but really resonates with me and also just speaks to the insane amount of goodness in Killua's heart for being able to stay the way he is
tpoints16
2024-07-05 02:23:05 +0000 UTCYeah she absolutely killed it
Sunny
2024-07-05 01:54:53 +0000 UTCGon's VA did a great job too
Alex G
2024-07-05 01:52:47 +0000 UTCYeeeeeeeah been waiting a long time for this one I'm not sure how it is in the manga, but Gon going off on Killua was one of the main reasons I advocated for the sub way back when. The dub uses a word choice where the sentiment is still kinda there, but it's really undercut and soft compared to the sub translation. It really doesn't have the same gut wrenching effect in that scene
Sunny
2024-07-05 01:46:32 +0000 UTC
