Race race race what happened to trying to be equal give people credit for who they are not what they are if that were the case I’d never listen to anyone not white
Bart rutledge
2021-06-07 14:13:07 +0000 UTC
He showed his ignorance and a perfect example of what you say all the time how can you comment or have feelings about someone you haven’t listened too that would be like me saying I don’t like Lebron because I seen him in a high school game and never watched any of his nba career yeah he may have all kinds of records and wins but he just isn’t good
Bart rutledge
2021-06-07 14:10:23 +0000 UTC
i agree some of the immature stuff isn't really for me, like FACK. and I more than anyone love Ems work and relate to alot of his earlier shit (about his mom and struggles growing up), but like dude. Since Em became sober, he's gotten so technical with his ability to rap. SSLP and MMLP were my two favorites. This guy is delusional. why is he bringing up race CONSTANTLY holy fuck man.
SDH
2021-06-02 08:44:30 +0000 UTC
Stevie you know I gotta have some massive love for you to go through that backstopping ignorant contradiction ass shit flying outta mouses mouth preciate the way you held your ground though
Mike Ackerman
2021-05-28 19:21:07 +0000 UTC
This was to hard to watch.
Daniel Smith
2021-05-28 18:38:58 +0000 UTC
I enjoyed this conversation. I'm not mad at Mouse for his views. I don't agree with him thinking Eminem is mediocre though.. he would probably agree more if he watched a few of your reactions on Em's more recent work. None the less you guys compared Eminem with greats. I wonder what spot Mouse has Em in like top 30 I would consider reasonable in my opinion.
Thanks for the video Stevie
Daniel Ducco
2021-05-27 23:58:23 +0000 UTC
Exactly. Like he says something and in the same breath says something that completely contradicts what he just said.
"I don't have a bias. I just don't give a fuck about Eminem. I have the exact opposite of a bias."
The opposite of a bias against Em is still a bias, just like the opposite of white on black racism is still racism, you ignorant fool lol.
Dustin Sisler
2021-05-25 22:49:26 +0000 UTC
and he admitted at the end he has no interest in exploring Ems music because he is not a black artist. Stevie suggests if you love hip-hop than take another look and Mouse said "NOPE"
Toni-Ann
2021-05-25 22:32:53 +0000 UTC
I've watched this three times now and just had to comment again sorry lol. But this dude said and I quote: If Eminem is not white, we give that nod to Royce"
He literally said from his own mouth that he's discrediting Em because of his race. That is racism. Whether he realizes it, or is just ignorant to it, or thinks it's justified, or whatever his reasons, Mouse is very clearly racist. He practically says it in the same breath that he says he's not.
Dustin Sisler
2021-05-25 22:09:49 +0000 UTC
To add after finishing the end, Stevie, you did get Mouse to admit he pigeon hole's Eminem, he gave you credit for homework he refuses to do. You told him info is out here to sway his opinion but he does not want that, he wants to continue hatin' on Em. You did your job Stevie, Mouse admitted to his faults (saying yes I am wrong) and refused to change his view point (I will continue to hate cuz I can) and he admitted it's because he ain't a 'black artist' (I'm racist and staying) - so I say it's a WIN for you Stevie THANKS for getting him to admit that!👏
Toni-Ann
2021-05-25 22:01:46 +0000 UTC
And I like skip Bayless alot more then Shannon lol 😂 I'm a huge cowboys fan tho
Brien Kidd
2021-05-25 21:29:38 +0000 UTC
Should have had him listen to some music to be murdered by bars but I feel Eminem would really appreciate this
Brien Kidd
2021-05-25 21:28:52 +0000 UTC
Mouse: "I'm a personality!"
Yeah.. that's for damn sure lmao
Dustin Sisler
2021-05-25 21:11:34 +0000 UTC
pice of shit clown
Heavy
2021-05-25 20:57:50 +0000 UTC
I hope all his chargers stop working and he has too by all new chargers for his electronics.
Denasia Greene
2021-05-25 19:42:02 +0000 UTC
I genuinely think that this Mouse dude just doesn't understand the definition of racism. Because when you say you aren't racist, but every one of your arguments about your opinion of someone leads straight back to his race, that is the literal definition of racism. Passing judgment on someone because he's white is what he is doing, but it's the exact thing he claims to be against.
Dustin Sisler
2021-05-25 19:10:25 +0000 UTC
Yeah agreed. He knows the only way for him to stay relevant is to get the Stans to hate him and feed off Eminem’s shine
Shaine Babjeck
2021-05-25 19:03:57 +0000 UTC
I saw that as well. He wants to attach himself to Stevie and Stevie followers. Not gonna hate on him trying to eat but he trolls way to much and he isn't open minded
Shadowlands _1
2021-05-25 19:01:54 +0000 UTC
Right he contradicted himself several times. Someone needs to put together a video with everytime he contradicted himself or lied.
He said I never said He was trashed....insert the clubhouse comments he made.
Shadowlands _1
2021-05-25 18:59:15 +0000 UTC
I can't stand this dude, I hope he steps on a Lego piece bare footed and while he is hopping around on 1 foot, smacks his baby toe on the edge of a wall... dude gets on my damn nerves
Joel Rogers
2021-05-25 18:05:03 +0000 UTC
This guy is a total clown.
Matthew Shaker
2021-05-25 16:49:49 +0000 UTC
Mouse is delusional. He’s the same guy that said in that “white people in hip hop” clubhouse thing that every black basketball player in the world is better than Larry Bird. He has let his racial bias blind him to objectively evaluating talent. He doesn’t have to like Em’s music, buy it, or support it on any way but he can not call himself objective.
RachelMD
2021-05-25 16:13:36 +0000 UTC
Eminem is looking down on mouse like he’s in space and mouse is an ant. Is opinion doesn’t matter one fuck
Chris Sturgill
2021-05-25 15:13:58 +0000 UTC
I appreciate the moves you making Stevie and love the idea of following up with this guy but I do have a but only because I think you want feedback as you move in this direction. You are very capable of having an discussion and hear different opinions but if you want to defend Em you have to come fully prepared, you need to know his albums, their names and order, name of certain tracks, to be able to pull lyrics out. Guys like this have been spraying their hate for awhile you need to have your facts down. This was a great start and I think it was good overall, just an suggestion for improvement moving forward. Tackling an Eminem debate is not as easy as one would think it would be - Much love Stevie!
Toni-Ann
2021-05-25 14:18:28 +0000 UTC
A giant on YouTube and literal giant the dude is jacked!
Dirty Lizard
2021-05-25 13:59:52 +0000 UTC
Stevie don't do it fam. No Mickey mouse. Dude a mad hater...so sad
Mandarius Lowe
2021-05-25 13:13:05 +0000 UTC
Yup
Gary Raffa
2021-05-25 12:48:25 +0000 UTC
I hate to say it, but u are right.
Gary Raffa
2021-05-25 12:46:52 +0000 UTC
He called all his fellow people of color "my brother" but yes he did kick him he was over his bullshit.But he very much supports his own...he gets ALOT of slack for ot....
MimiLoveee♡
2021-05-25 12:39:09 +0000 UTC
Yeah that verse n a few others i wasnt sure why he didnt play or bring up but he foreveff r my fave n this his thing so im gonna support how he do ot n he wasnt backing down so🙏
MimiLoveee♡
2021-05-25 12:34:37 +0000 UTC
But if that’s the case, How can he discredit Em or even have a debate or opinion about Eminem Since he clearly said he is not giving a true listen. What he should say is Im not into Eminem so I can’t truly judge him since black artists have more of an affect on me.
Gary Raffa
2021-05-25 12:31:44 +0000 UTC
If any rapper he likes has said some of the shit Em has said, it’d be dope in his mind.
Gary Raffa
2021-05-25 12:27:08 +0000 UTC
Lol true.
Gary Raffa
2021-05-25 12:25:04 +0000 UTC
To all the people saying Stevie you should’ve said this or that, why don’t you interview Mouse and ask all your questions 🙄. Stevie laid out logical arguments and made his points well and backed up what he was saying with evidence. Mouse on the other hand was merely obfuscating, so why would Stevie need to come up with example after example there was absolutely no need to do that. Mouse was digging a hole all by himself.
Anne-Marie Thawes
2021-05-25 11:38:52 +0000 UTC
What makes me laugh is the level of hypocrisy of some ppl on here. Em is the GOAT I’ve been listening to his music from word go. However, I have no qualms about saying if another artist outshines him on a record. When Stevie did Calm Down the illogical Stans on here wouldn’t even begin to entertain the idea that Busta took it, NOT washed Em, but outshone him. Getting themselves tied up in knots making stupid illogical arguments, anything but to admit the bloody obvious. Its that sort of bullshit that gets people’s hackles up and comes across as only supporting Em because he’s white.
I don’t agree with what Mouse was saying, and to be honest I don’t believe he believes what he said. His as body language gave away his true feelings, he knows Em is top 5, he just doesn’t want to admit it, because its hard for him to accept a white person has risen to the very top of a black genre. Am I going to get all uptight about it and spit my dummy out, no because he is in a tiny minority of people who pretend not to see Em’s genius.
Anne-Marie Thawes
2021-05-25 11:23:40 +0000 UTC
@Diverse Project, I understand that black people in America faced a lot of discrimination through out history, however it’s not fair holding people “accountable” through that lens. To clarify something I am not black nor white not even American, so I am saying this without bases and I belong to oppress group in my country so I understand. The dangerous thing about your mentality is not supporting “black owner” or “black artist” it’s when this goes so far to this scenario which I wetness ( black man and white girl were dating, the black man broke up with her when she asked him why, he said it’s getting serious and I can’t marry you, when she asked why, he said I don’t want to have mixed children I only want black children) now if you don’t see this as messed up then you need to back and check your ethics. He was fine dating her, but he couldn’t marry her because of her color don’t you think this is racists?? To be able to heal and move on we need to only hold racist people accountable not everyone for their ancestors mistakes. I was angry at one point in my life but living in anger in no way to live. You can’t ask for better future but also keep this anger in you, look at it like a marriage, if a women cheated on her husband and he took her back but kept mention the cheating every chance he got, you can’t have guy friend you cheated, you can’t go anywhere by yourself you cheated. now tell me this, do you think they will have a good marriage??
Jay
2021-05-25 08:03:48 +0000 UTC
Right y’all might be right, but I really just want to eliminate any excuse that Mouse could make that regardless of his preference Eminem has consistently out rapped just about every feature he was on or has had and show mouse undeniable bars showing that he is at the very least elite, then Mouse would eventually be forced to admit that his feelings towards Eminem are in fact racist
Justin Calton
2021-05-25 06:45:35 +0000 UTC
Bro this rat has clearly not listened to ems new shit. Show the rat some real fucken bars. I low key feel bad for him.. comparing em to Donald, he is the wrong person to debate with Stevie.. if you do a colab break down a song with him so he can see..
Paul Muscari
2021-05-25 04:25:53 +0000 UTC
Damn dog I read the person who lit your ass up before reading your comment and I was on your side thinking someone was triggered over something taken out of context up til you started with the segregation shit and completely lost me. That shit about basketball made me giggle though no lie. But yeah you shot yourself in the foot and dropped stinky doo doo all over it and your point. Oh and I’m white so this is a white helping shoot down the defense of whites by brown with I’m guessing is black. Y’all good now? Every different shade of skin is all good in my book and we’re all getting fucked over in the end one way or another so hug it out and love one another and let’s enjoy some rap shit! Oh and fuck that rodent Mouse he stupid
Dirty Lizard
2021-05-25 04:04:42 +0000 UTC
Plus I think mouse knows that Stevie is poppin and is becoming a giant on YouTube and mouse wanted some publicity fuck him stevie. He doesn’t have an open mind like you
Michael manchester
2021-05-25 03:27:57 +0000 UTC
Moral of the story you cannot change someone’s mind when their mind is made up. But I do think mouse is ill informed, he doesn’t seem to know enough about Eminem’s music to even discuss it, and it looks like Eminem ruined mouses opinion of Eminem when em started doing those crazy raps about killing Kim and ect. But Stevie is right that that isn’t all Eminem does. Mouse is ignorant af and arrogant and I don’t think he’s gave Eminem a listen in many many years and still uses his opinion he formed in 2004 when encore dropped.
Michael manchester
2021-05-25 03:23:21 +0000 UTC
Get on his ass Stevie!
Christian Guadalupe
2021-05-25 03:15:51 +0000 UTC
No your not Mexican. Your European which is ??? White. Yeah anyway. The point is you’re not black so you have NOOOOO IDEAAAA what we deal with on a day to day basis and if you studied the real history of black people when it comes to the many reasons why we are where we are in this world then you would have a better understanding and a much less ignorant approach to the topic. Yeah mouse is ignorant and he definitely discriminates against white people doesn’t always mean you’re racist but again he may very well be racist tho.. but it’s not racist to only wanna support black artist. It’s not racist to only buy products that are black owned and it’s not racist to only vote for black politicians. Our community is behind on every level. We are dead last in every statistic. So no it’s racist for black to only wanna invest their money or spend their money back into their community who needs the help the most. You my friend are wayyyyy in over your head and I can tell you’re not too educated on the matter that you are so boldly speaking. “I’m not defending whites I’m Mexican” as if Mexican is a race. Smh 🤦🏾♂️ it’s a nationality. You guys are either two things. Brown or white.. but you ain’t black and you never walk a day in black shoes. So do ya self a favor and don’t speak on it. Or do, and look like a fool. Less than one percent of black people become millionaires, less than 4% earn over 200,000 a year. “So MaNy OthEr PeOple mAde iT and BecaMe SucCessFul” man go read some facts and study them. Don’t speak on black issues. You’re not qullalified.. oh. And yeah.. Fuck Mouse. He’s a fool too
Diverse Project
2021-05-25 02:16:31 +0000 UTC
“I stopped listening at encore...”
3 minutes later. “Music to be murdered by was a bad album” did you or did you not stop listening mouse 😂😂😂
Cam Alexander
2021-05-25 01:31:19 +0000 UTC
Mouse came with a certain mentality and wasn't ready to accept stevie's opinions, you could tell from his body language that he just didn't really care, not to mention he seems to see eminem as an outsider to hip hop from his comments, plus he was racist too and at one point stevie just looked like he gave up in changing mouse's mind, not that I blame him.
Don't let that discourage you stevie, you tried to do your best and you shared your views clearly but you could have been a little more prepared in picking some eminem bars imo.
Either way I'm always happy to see new content from you homie.
Alzubair
2021-05-25 01:09:47 +0000 UTC
This mouse guy is a moron at best!
Rosa
2021-05-25 01:08:36 +0000 UTC
I agree
Alzubair
2021-05-25 00:56:38 +0000 UTC
Stevie next time you should come a little more prepared with some examples of why he's one of the greatest with some impressive writing.
ArtistAustin
2021-05-25 00:55:04 +0000 UTC
facts
Abdulrahman
2021-05-25 00:55:04 +0000 UTC
@ cr!t!c thank you this was a great break down i also share your sentiment with regards to him keeping his baised and uneducated opinion of eminem to himself
Abdulrahman
2021-05-25 00:53:50 +0000 UTC
Honestly Disagree with what mans was saying you could of done some better examples as well Stevie. Example: "I could keep beefin', fuck is the point?
I could make it really difficult for motherfuckers to come to Detroit
If you're still looking for smoke, I already gave you an L
I'd rather just see you in Hell, but I should get Puff on the joint (Diddy)
Wait, run it back, I said give you an L, inhale
Puff on the joint, I am the blunt you avoid"
ArtistAustin
2021-05-25 00:52:21 +0000 UTC
@ DJ actually i think this was great specially for me as an eminem fan because this kills the argument that he is objective about eminem in his criticism by his own admission and its video taped so now we could just ignore his point of view regarding eminem in the future and be cautious when he criticizes another artists.
Abdulrahman
2021-05-25 00:45:38 +0000 UTC
Great convo! Not actually sure how he is not giving Em any props on the skills, even when other rappers give him credit...and on top of that calling it mediocre is a little disrespectful. He defo needs to give him a chance. I wonder what he thinks of Yelawolf? hmmm...haha you need to ask him what he thinks of Tom McDonalds hahahaha
MajinYogiBear
2021-05-25 00:41:00 +0000 UTC
@ Janni Nielsen I completely understand and agree, i can totally see why you would get offended if he did, but i can also see why someone from america that's a POC would say " I’m sure you didn’t mean for that to come off racist which is why I wish the good white folks would stop saying because to black ppl you guys sound a little bit racist or questionable " again he made it clear that he knows you are not one by saying " so I’m sure you are not racist. I’m sure you are a good person but white ppl. Need to stop comparing our struggles or our scenarios with theirs. Because it’s not the same thing. " your argument is completely valid but not in this context brother he made sure to say the he knows you are not one and to please understand the context of the comparisons from the POV of a POC in america that it is even if just a little bit it is hurtful. again thank you so much for the elegant and respectful dialog.
Abdulrahman
2021-05-25 00:37:12 +0000 UTC
This dude is an idiot who just wants attention.
David M
2021-05-25 00:04:18 +0000 UTC
Stevie defo could have been a bit more prepared for this! We know you have the proof and evidence bro. Just gotta have it ready. Dude left doors open with his ridiculous, weightless arguments. And at the end he just says I’d rather put my time into a black artist... sums up what he’s really saying behind all his unfounded claims. And stevie he just wants to rock with you for his benefit. That type of personality don’t care about collab, he don’t listen. Look beyond the words... guys like that always out for number one
Aidan O' Brien
2021-05-24 23:59:35 +0000 UTC
This may be an unpopular opinion, but my 1st thoughts on mouse wasnt the best, I thought it was all about race, and it seems to still be a factor, BUT, I can say I respect his opinion. He feels how he feels. We all arent always gonna see eye to eye on things as a people. And clearly mouse and stevie dont feel the same on em, but they could have a conversation and hear each other out. We need more of that. Much love stevie, keep this fire content coming!
Austin Barnes
2021-05-24 23:47:52 +0000 UTC
Best friend verse? PACKED. That was the one to match the jay mason lyric claim dude had
Aidan O' Brien
2021-05-24 23:35:49 +0000 UTC
Idk why anyone gives lil mousy a platform. He has shown in the past how racist he is towards all white rappers. I never say this shit about anyone but he is special in that area.
Albert fish is A real jerk
2021-05-24 23:33:21 +0000 UTC
That wasn’t a debate that was a wash, just like Eminem when he gets on a track
Delbert Drake
2021-05-24 23:30:16 +0000 UTC
It actually gets better by the end a bit IMO
JAAB
2021-05-24 23:25:49 +0000 UTC
“What record can Em talk about pulling bitches”... superman bitch. Gtfo
Aidan O' Brien
2021-05-24 23:23:20 +0000 UTC
This dude really makes me want to smack him and I can't say that about too many people.
Jimmy McMinn
2021-05-24 23:03:53 +0000 UTC
This video drove me nuts, Stevie I respect your opinion to the fullest even when I don’t agree with you but clearly this other dude just doesn’t get it. If someone told me they can’t stand Eminem’s music I can fully respect that but to paint a picture saying he doesn’t have the best pen game or at least top ten then I can’t respect that. Eminem I believe is the best rapper ever but he only has a few songs on my play list because other peoples music is easier to vibe to but when it comes to actually lyrics he’s top of the food chain
Delbert Drake
2021-05-24 22:53:07 +0000 UTC
don’t let this little gremlin snake off your fanbase Stevie. At least he acknowledged the fact that he’s closed-minded, that was nice of him.
Shaine Babjeck
2021-05-24 22:52:41 +0000 UTC
Man stevie you should've shown him the blackthought bar or the lord above. Those were some hard hitting bars that I doubt he'll understand
BeenzTTV
2021-05-24 22:44:14 +0000 UTC
Eminem has over 17 billion views on YouTube alone... There is nothing mediocre about Eminem at all! This guy's is just racist and biased
Tha Creator
2021-05-24 22:29:51 +0000 UTC
So who is going to put the video together on how many times he contradicted himself lol
Shadowlands _1
2021-05-24 22:18:08 +0000 UTC
This was a nice respectful conversation. Glad it wasn't allowed to go into trolling Thank you Stevie for that. I tend to stay away from conversation with Mouse in them because he trys to discredit people or belittle them with jokes. The artists especially the Elite OGs deserve respect even if you don't like their music. I understand his point about if he is going to put in effort he wants to do it with an artist he prefers however from that decision any opinion he has on Eminem is invalid due to lack of knowledge. He is just making stuff up at this point. He stated he was like an analyst well not really if he hasn't analyzed anything. Stevie is an analyst Mouse is just a man who is sharing biased opinions.
Shadowlands _1
2021-05-24 22:17:27 +0000 UTC
It's called racism
Plain_23
2021-05-24 22:04:40 +0000 UTC
Can't even respect his opinion. Delusional racist ass idiot
Dennis
2021-05-24 21:31:48 +0000 UTC
I think he is drawing a picture for people to hate Eminem and trying to pushing him out from music or rap
Salem
2021-05-24 20:48:47 +0000 UTC
I don’t know what the problem with this dude
Salem
2021-05-24 20:45:15 +0000 UTC
Mouse trapped behind amaze of contradiction (bars, lol). You did a good job considering. Two Mouse quotes that sum this up for me.
1. “I like to look at things objectively .....ramble..... Like if Eminem was Black, he would just be aight”.
(objectively: to look at things in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions)
2. Stevie: if you’re a hiphop head, you’re missing out, i strongly suggest ... Mickey: “I would rather give my time od day listening to an artist that is black” ————- Nothing wrong with that, all the power to him. But then don’t spend any time of day making statements like mediocre, empty entendres, etc.
Here’s a bar for him... I’d love to hear his rationale of how this is meaningless:
“Like i dont make sure every sentance n bar with the pencil is sharp plus i’m Quick on the draw, So when I pull it surprise, like Kendrick Lamar” .. [so win a Pulitzer prize, like Kendrick Lamar] .. Just a casual 12 syllables with a double meaning. 🙄
cr!t!c
2021-05-24 20:27:17 +0000 UTC
He's painting a picture with rape and killing shit not that he approves of those things. Its like you watch a horror movie, satire etc. Its art and he trying to tell a story. Why mofos dont get this idk.
Adi Abdullah
2021-05-24 20:16:48 +0000 UTC
I mean tbh I wish Stevie came more prepared with this one... To people who didn't watch it, don't. It's a waste of time.
kikoolol
2021-05-24 20:16:24 +0000 UTC
He didn't though and kept calling him brother the whole time ;)
kikoolol
2021-05-24 20:14:24 +0000 UTC
Clout chaser and troll is all this guy is, with a hint of racism
EnVy316LeGeNd
2021-05-24 20:07:34 +0000 UTC
I tried but yea dude is so closed minded and ignorant
EnVy316LeGeNd
2021-05-24 20:04:27 +0000 UTC
Yo, I'm just saying. Have you checked out KnightTalk?
Birdie Card
2021-05-24 20:01:40 +0000 UTC
Mouse doesn't seem like a bad dude but he definitely feels some type of way about a white guy being revered as the goat, which is understandable because there are black rappers who are, maybe not better, but as good as Eminem.
So i can see why that might be frustrating, especially if you grew up during a time where most white people really weren't listening to hip-hop music other than radio hits, then all of the sudden 20 years ago this white boy comes along murdering the game and every white person is suddenly a hip-hop head and they all say with impunity "Eminem is the greatest rapper of all time" without really any prior knowledge of the genre.
But cut to 20 years later, and Eminem has stood the test of time. He's proven himself consistently (minus a few hiccups) and he's earned the respect of just about every top tier emcee in the game.
So i see where he's coming from, but for this dude to say he is mediocre at best is a straight up lie. Either that or he really believes it, but that opinion comes from a place of bitterness, and not from looking at things objectively, bias aside.
James Pansullo
2021-05-24 19:37:21 +0000 UTC
This dude is racist tbh, towards the end he said the reason he doesn't give em the time to listen is because he would rather give that time to a black artist. Point and simple in the other video where he was on the group chat where royce was at he said em couldn't be the best because he's white because black people invented rap. Imagine white people said black people cant be the best at basketball because whites invented basketball. The amount of outrage would become viral, its racist regardless what color it is. Black people appropriated basketball but no one is going to say anything about that. This comes down to being one of those people who like to play the victim and just blame white people for everything bad in life, if they live in a bad neighborhood its because whites segregated them, if they have bad education its because the system doesn't care about them, if they are in jail its because the cops are racist, instead of living in this mentality of i was born into this because of whites, do something about it, work hard to get out of that situation, study and get good grades instead of worrying about sports or having fun. There have been plenty of people who become self made millionaires that came from nothing, but instead its just so much easier to point the finger at white people and blame them for your own failures instead of being better. Btw im mexican dont think im white just defending whites.
Jes2lift
2021-05-24 19:33:58 +0000 UTC
He didn’t “say it” but everyone knows. Why even bring race into it if it’s not a factor? He constantly says Em is white. And he says the listeners are white. I’m black btw
Lela Amboko
2021-05-24 19:28:08 +0000 UTC
Man you're as dumb as Mouse LOL
kikoolol
2021-05-24 19:24:59 +0000 UTC
When was the last time mentions that
artem mkrtichev
2021-05-24 19:10:25 +0000 UTC
Bro this motherfucker is so racist it's crazy. He doesn't even have his facts straight bro. He talks about raping his mom and killing his wife like 18 years ago
artem mkrtichev
2021-05-24 19:10:06 +0000 UTC
I think I'm gonna save myself the frustration and skip this one guys. Sorry Stevie.
Jorge Perez
2021-05-24 19:00:33 +0000 UTC
I highly doubt that. He's too close minded.
Jorge Perez
2021-05-24 18:45:40 +0000 UTC
What type of man goes by the name mouse!? Oh ya, the hater kind.
Chris
2021-05-24 18:43:01 +0000 UTC
He said he is not biased but based on what he said about only diving into anylizing an artist that’s black shows a diasness I think he is racially biased he won’t give a white artist the time of day which is racist in my opinion. As a white man if I said that same shit about a black artist people would label me racist but I would never do that because that would discrediting talent
Christopher stone
2021-05-24 18:35:39 +0000 UTC
Facts.
Feras
2021-05-24 18:18:14 +0000 UTC
I want to watch it but I don't know if my brain can handle it from the intro LOL
Brad Martindale
2021-05-24 17:58:46 +0000 UTC
Gawwdamn that was hard to get through.
Greg Rios
2021-05-24 17:57:56 +0000 UTC
It wouldnt matter, stevie couldve picked the most insane bar and mouse would still call it mediocre, he's very biased dude.
Rama Djuhana
2021-05-24 17:40:39 +0000 UTC
There mouse goes with another trash metaphor comparing em to trump😂🚮🤡
Tkbrady
2021-05-24 17:33:01 +0000 UTC
GhostlyRipper, you got it all wrong my friend. I love the shock value shit, I think it's hilarious. But as far as rapping goes, it wasn't it on sslp. My opinion is sslp was his worst album. That's just me tho
Jephph Phullen
2021-05-24 17:31:30 +0000 UTC
"I don't wanna hear him abt killing his babymom" but..but..Big...nvm.
Nothing you can say to him can change his mind.There were so many wrong statements in this interview ,and i don't mean biased,simply wrong lol.I watched the whole video,hoping at the end at least, he will agree that is all abt opinions,but nah,he just amplified the stuff he was saying on ch🤦♀️
Nicole Kali
2021-05-24 17:25:23 +0000 UTC
The funniest part is that almost everyone in Mouse's top 5 has recognized Eminem as one of the nicest to ever do it🤣🤣
Sachin
2021-05-24 17:20:02 +0000 UTC
Terrible is pretty harsh. I get it if you don't like the content and shock value but you and Stevie act like his rapping was buttcheeks on that album
GhostlyRipper
2021-05-24 17:19:21 +0000 UTC
Donald is the worst business man ever. He has actually lost more money than he has ever earned on top of every bankruptcy he has ever filed. That just makes him one of the greatest con men of all time not business.
Aaron Kramer
2021-05-24 17:08:12 +0000 UTC
I have 22 minutes left and idk if I can endure that much more of the bias ignorance. Fool refuses to listen to logical reasoning. Did Shady take his girl or something damn
Dirty Lizard
2021-05-24 17:01:51 +0000 UTC
I appreciate the effort Stevie but a wise old man who is known by some as TaterSalad once said you can’t fix stupid
Dirty Lizard
2021-05-24 16:59:28 +0000 UTC
I kept wanting stevie to bring up Best Friend.
Samantha
2021-05-24 16:55:58 +0000 UTC
I really don’t understand the point of this. I never will. Why are we trying to rationalize such an irrational person?
If I said the grass is hot pink, would you argue me or realize I either am color blind or being ass and let it go?
DJ
2021-05-24 16:37:27 +0000 UTC
Mouse is so salty towards Em lmao
Steve
2021-05-24 16:33:22 +0000 UTC
Yo Stevie we gotta call pest control and deal with this rodent. Maybe call up Shaq and see if ja rule wants a pet rat and get a tube to do what Richard gere do
Dirty Lizard
2021-05-24 16:25:30 +0000 UTC
Mediocre at best? Maaan I’m glad Royce kicked this fool out of the clubhouse. He did get one thing right and he’s a famous personality because he’s a goddamn clown 🤡
Dirty Lizard
2021-05-24 16:18:30 +0000 UTC
Clearly mouse is not intelligent about music. You cannot have a great musical intellect and say Eminem is mediocre. I can’t tell you if Picasso is great or not because I don’t understand that kind of art so my opinion will not hold any value especially if I just don’t like Picasso. He’s out of his lane clearly and trying to pretend he know about hip hop. He’s embarrassing himself.
Chris Sturgill
2021-05-24 15:48:20 +0000 UTC
You should have given him a hov bar and told him it was em and visa versa, and seen what he thought
Colin
2021-05-24 15:43:44 +0000 UTC
Just because reactors are good with Tom, MGK or Mouse does not mean Em will cancel them out, he is a grown man. He knows this game really well, reactors want to do what benefits them and they are not in it for the loyalty to a certain artist. Em is popular on youtube because of the stans, if the stans didn't back this, Em would not be reacted to. at all. You think all these youtube rappers would get the attention they have from reactors if it wasn't for their fans clicking on anything with their name on it?
Plain_23
2021-05-24 15:26:30 +0000 UTC
This mouse would get jumped for the racist shit he was saying in that clubhouse chat, even royce got mad at him for it. I appreciate you putting effort in trying to make him aware of Em's skills but this is all beyond the point, Em is white, Mouse will not listen and he made that clear. you should have shown him some examples from the best versus challenge you're doing. Like Best friend. But regardless, he sees white and is off, he even said he doesn't like any of the white rappers, not even Post Malone. I really like your content Stevie and will continue to be a fan of yours, but I'm not willing to sit through another second of this racist. I'll be here for your other content.
Plain_23
2021-05-24 15:18:46 +0000 UTC
That was in the video of both on there, I remember that but that was a joke. Royce is a lyricist and neither he or em would accept writing for each other
Plain_23
2021-05-24 15:05:52 +0000 UTC
Eminem going to make a diss track named Tom and Jerry hahahaha
Samantha
2021-05-24 15:05:03 +0000 UTC
Seems like Mouse knows zero about Eminem and his music.
Samantha
2021-05-24 15:03:42 +0000 UTC
So at the end of the day Mouse is racist gotcha
Danny Pratt
2021-05-24 15:00:14 +0000 UTC
Em would appreciate this, salute big bro!
Albar
2021-05-24 14:53:02 +0000 UTC
Slim Shady LP was dope, but this new Eminem and the 1999 Eminem are two totally different rappers. I liked the goofy but still skilled Eminem more than the extreme technician that he is now. The music was more enjoyable, at least to me.
M Salam
2021-05-24 14:37:41 +0000 UTC
Nice work Stevie, valiant effort.
Kristopher Taylor
2021-05-24 14:07:22 +0000 UTC
Guy just annoys me. I turned it off as soon as he compared Eminem and Donald Trump. Like really? Donald Trump has stayed relevant not just because of being president; but because he is a great businessman and a billionaire. Whilst Eminem, is a multi millionaire and arguably the greatest rapper of all time. Stop the hate just because he is white. Shits getting boring now.
Kyne Williams
2021-05-24 13:49:36 +0000 UTC
All I hear when Mouse talks is I hate white people and they don't belong in hip hop. Granted I couldn't make it through the entire video because he was making me angry. He had no valid points and he wasn't objectively listening to anything Stevie said.
kev_stee
2021-05-24 13:43:14 +0000 UTC
Mouse just talking in circles....
Tyler Keyser
2021-05-24 12:59:08 +0000 UTC
Eminem gonna see this if it goes in youtube n ion how he gonna feel lol..he def never fuxxin wit No Life Shaq again after him cosignin that fake marketing dear slim ishhh...I unsub'd n unfollowed NLS everywhere after that ...but at least you had his back Stevie,ion kno feel like you shoulda threw some Ems work at jim tho..reading it dont have the same effect,also its just me but when you say "you dont listen to him outside reactions " or 'he not your favorite" trust me in they mind you co-signing they side..jus sayin 💖
MimiLoveee♡
2021-05-24 12:52:19 +0000 UTC
nah he didnt say he doesnt like his music cause of skin coloue
Abe Fan
2021-05-24 12:24:15 +0000 UTC
DOPE convo. i extended my subscription for this 😀
Abe Fan
2021-05-24 12:23:42 +0000 UTC
@Abdulrahman maybe it's difficult for me to explain myself in my second language but I don't dismiss the difference in life and experience between my life and a POC in America. I've had many conversations about racism with many people from many different parts of the world and I completely accept and understand that a persons POV will be colored by their own life, but just because I speak my mind based on my life doesn't mean I can't understand another persons POV. And most people from all over the world are willing and able to accept and understand that different people from diffrent parts off the world may view things slightly different. Unfortunately I have met some Americans (both POC and white) that seem to think that if you're not from America your opinion is invalid and that IMO is very narrow minded because America isn't the center of the world, no country is. I explained why I view the race comment the way I do, that doesn't mean I can't understand others may see it differently based on their life and their experiences. But I have to admit I get offended when someone states that I sound racist based on one comment that they don't know the background for. If I read a persons short comment makes me think hey that sounded racist or homofobic whatever I always ask them to elaborate because I know their comment is based on their life etc and 9 out of 10 times is turns out that the person isn't any of that but just didn't have the time to write a long explanation as to why they wrote that short comment.
Janni Nielsen
2021-05-24 12:19:52 +0000 UTC
This dude is a clown. He’s close minded and is just trying to get Em to mention him for clout. Definition of hater.
Chris
2021-05-24 12:02:40 +0000 UTC
Mouse a whole hater out here yo🖐💯💯
MimiLoveee♡
2021-05-24 11:57:06 +0000 UTC
Sslp to me is a horrible record. I don't see him liking it even on a second listen
Jephph Phullen
2021-05-24 11:53:55 +0000 UTC
“Mediocre at best”. Hating at this level should be a sin.
Kostia
2021-05-24 11:26:24 +0000 UTC
Mouse had no argument for Eminem except not liking him.
In a future debate Stevie should focus more on bar/flow/lyricism breakdown as topics
Jonathan
2021-05-24 11:15:00 +0000 UTC
You can't leave out the context of racial history when discussing someone wanted to give a black artist more attention. You're not contextualizing things and just looking at it as merely "Well, it's not fair to prefer black artists to white artists, they're just artists" shit doesn't fly, when Black people historically have had their artistry and culture taken away from us time after time. So no, it's completely fair and just for him to prefer to give attention to a black artist over a white one, and no it's not the same if it was vice versa. And I don't even like Mouse, but you're being surface level in your understanding of racial prejudices.
M Salam
2021-05-24 10:25:56 +0000 UTC
Good stuff Stevie . We need more convos like this not only about music but overall in life, people are so easy to hate others just because they have different opinions or even taste of music . Hope to see we as a world will crawl out of it eventually .
Rafal Bajorski
2021-05-24 10:24:17 +0000 UTC
The fact that someone decides to like or not like some artist based on their skin color just shows how truly pathetic this world is. What kind of sad circumstances produce such people? This dude literally just said Eminem is at best average at rap XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Dezy
2021-05-24 10:12:14 +0000 UTC
This was dope Stevie...at least he admitted to blocking himself from really listening to Em
Aydin Shahtakhtinskiy
2021-05-24 10:05:31 +0000 UTC
This was the most frustrating way to start my morning lol. The fact is, if you took someone that knew nothing about hip hop or that Em was white, and played their best songs for that person, nobody in their right mind would say Em is average.
Jerry DiGiovanni
2021-05-24 09:26:39 +0000 UTC
The ignorance of Mouse is glowing through this conversation. He just doesn’t know what he is talking about. Sheesh!
Kostia
2021-05-24 09:21:04 +0000 UTC
I’m 20 minutes in and I think the conversation isn’t gonna move at all. Mouse is deaf. Eminem isn’t even my favorite rapper but you cant deny greatness like that. So frustrating. Saying that MTBMB isnt the climax of rap?! Eminem is in his prime right now rapping wise.
Kostia
2021-05-24 09:18:40 +0000 UTC
Man, he is such a hater. I have no issue with someone saying they don't enjoy Em's music, heck I'm a fan and really don't like his beat selection at times. But to say he is not a talented rapper and versatile? To say Royce has been washing him for 20 years? To say he's still living off shock value and being white, not rapping ability? Nah, that is just hater shit. Does he ignore the likes of Rakim being effusive in their praise of Em, dismiss it as some sort of sympathy play because the white boy is trying to rap? He doesn't seem like a bad dude, but he sure loves to dismiss Eminem with some very ignorant views on his contribution to Hip Hop.
Tim
2021-05-24 09:17:17 +0000 UTC
@ Janni Nielsen i understand but do you not think that taking it from solely your perspective and point of view from the environment you grew up in is kind of a limited possibly skewed point of view, i understand and agree with the general context you spoke about but mouse preference to listen to a black artist to either help shed some light celebrate or promote said artist comes from a place of the black peoples reality in the US from what i have seen and read, his bias toward eminem and lack of acknowledgment of his skills and abilities is entirely subjective and based on taste and how much he can relate to his content and what he identifies as cool, fly swag..etc , his stubborn attitude makes him bias but i do not think that him saying that he would rather pay more attention to a black artist is wrong i would say though if that's what he wants cool god bless but please do not have this absolute stance on an artist like eminem being mediocre at best without listening and paying attention to what and how eminem is saying in his raps and at least acknowledge the fact that eminem spent his literal entire life in this craft of lyricism plus almost all of the contemporaries and predecessors in rap that i heard from respect his pen, technical ability and flow their opinion as experts and OG's should hold some kind of merit.
Abdulrahman
2021-05-24 08:48:31 +0000 UTC
Stevie you should have showed him the bowling alley scheme from Alfred’s Theme bro!
Tom Zoeter
2021-05-24 08:38:11 +0000 UTC
ig·no·rant
/ˈiɡnərənt/
adjective
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
"he was told constantly that he was ignorant and stupid" This dude is not impressed because EM is WHITE!
ls1_reaper
2021-05-24 08:29:17 +0000 UTC
@Diverse Project 100% feel you
Abdulrahman
2021-05-24 08:27:10 +0000 UTC
Interesting video tho I’m down to watch more videos debating other subjects or even the same subject with other people
TW1G N1NJ4
2021-05-24 08:25:05 +0000 UTC
Great back and forth. For a second I thought you was going to play him best friend. The only point that may of made him waver on renegade is that em had already laid the verse and jay z was trying to match it. Em had set the tone of the song not knowing jay z was going to be on it. It was meant to be Royce. At least he didn’t loose his shit and kept it together
Great work and content as ever stevie.
Richard Simpson
2021-05-24 08:24:03 +0000 UTC
I made it through the whole thing.... was starting to think okay maybe he’s not racist like he was coming off as in that clubhouse shit he’s just biased against Eminem.... then he goes and says “...I’d rather give that attention to a BLACK artist” 🤦🏽♂️ why’s it gotta be a BLACK artist tho? Could’ve said new up and coming artist or even just said someone that’s more to his preference or something and not made it racial... as soon as he made it racial with that remark he came across as racist again just like that clubhouse chat..... argue your case about why you don’t like Eminem’s music that’s fine I’ll disagree but I’ll respect your opinion.... say that Eminem only got as big as he is because he’s white I won’t argue against it especially when Eminem said it himself so nothing to argue.... saying you don’t wanna give Eminem attention because you’d rather give that attention to a BLACK artist is just admitting to discrimination against him because he’s white and by definition is racist.... need to reword that shit if you don’t want to be called racist
TW1G N1NJ4
2021-05-24 08:20:05 +0000 UTC
As a black man, Mouse does seem a little subconsciously racist.
T'rel Taylor
2021-05-24 08:09:29 +0000 UTC
Straight facts. He would’ve heard that interview. I wonder what he done once he heard Rakim praise Em like that.
Luis Cisternas
2021-05-24 08:08:15 +0000 UTC
Mouse out here acting like Em was the only rapper talking about hurting his baby moms lmao. Hip hop has always been misogynistic af
Tom Zoeter
2021-05-24 08:03:33 +0000 UTC
Honestly, even if Stevie did that. He’s talking to deaf ears. This mouse dude is determined to hate Em no matter what lyrics Stevie quotes.
Lela Amboko
2021-05-24 07:32:53 +0000 UTC
He claims he’s not racist! If I said I wouldn’t give a black artist the time of day, because I would rather give that attention to a white artist I would be racist. Racism is racism!
Jeffrey Thomas
2021-05-24 07:15:43 +0000 UTC
Guys straight troll
FictionalCharacter mov
2021-05-24 07:14:11 +0000 UTC
He says he won’t listen to someone who talks about raping/ killing your momma or baby momma, yet he put biggy in his top 5. Get outta here with your hatin ass
Jeffrey Thomas
2021-05-24 07:13:12 +0000 UTC
Stevie did say that maybe he will have to go back, and listen to sslp because maybe he didn't give it a fair listen.
FictionalCharacter mov
2021-05-24 07:12:16 +0000 UTC
Tropic Thunder ass mouse
D Rock
2021-05-24 07:03:44 +0000 UTC
He says he won’t dive into Eminem’s music because he’s rather give that time to a black artist. Probably the dumbest shit I ever heard. He don’t have one hour to spare to listen to Eminem and if he does how is that taking away from black artists? Does his time and ears have a special effect on a random rapper and by him listening that rapper is going to make it? This dude is special.
D Rock
2021-05-24 07:01:16 +0000 UTC
He is my favourite rapper. His music hits me different.
I can't stop talking about him I admire him too much lol
DHAIVAT
2021-05-24 06:57:10 +0000 UTC
Masta ace is mad nice ain’t he
D Rock
2021-05-24 06:55:03 +0000 UTC
Agreed but by that point he was probably so heated he couldn't think straight. I woulda hung up on dude after like 15 min
Stephen Thompson
2021-05-24 06:45:28 +0000 UTC
I made it 37 min. Holy shxt. That was rough. I,i,i..
This dude...
Is he for real??
Stephen Thompson
2021-05-24 06:43:19 +0000 UTC
Didn't Jay Z say himself that EM took renegade?
Also Mouse is the sort of person that even if he went and listened to em in depth and changed his mind on him, he will still come with the same discrediting attitude because he has spent so much energy on that prospective and opinion that if he suddenly come out and was like actually nah I was wrong EM is nice.. he would look like an idiot.. so he would never admit it.
Sam Woodward
2021-05-24 06:35:02 +0000 UTC
Ohh wow that have got to be the first time someones told me that I sound a little racist😳 now I'm not from America (and sorry if some things are expressed in a weird way, but English is my second language) so my opinion isn't formed by a country and society that have been build by mistreating and taking advantage of another race. I don't know how aware americans are about how the rest of the world see and experience this racial devide that we see in America because of it's history. But to me it is absolutely mindblowing that (some) white people have been raised to believe that POC are less than and there are people that still teaches this to their children. So that is my standpoint and I refuse to be put in the same category as racist white people. I understand that an american person may have a different view on what racism is, but in my country it is defined as "discrimination or bias based on skincolor, nationality or ethnic origin" (again sorry if something gets lost in tranlation), that is what I have been tought and that is what I teach my son, and that is why I wonder why it isn't considered racist when a black person says things like Mouse did here? I am not comparing the struggels that the slaves went through what their descendants still goes through with my life. My statement is based on the society that I live in where there are examples of POC judging me as less than them based on my color.... if not racist what would you call that?
Janni Nielsen
2021-05-24 06:32:53 +0000 UTC
I’m gonna be honest Stevie did pick kinda a mediocre entendre to use as an example, he could’ve quoted way better lyrics from em, god damn it Stevie that frustrated me lol😂🤦♂️
Justin Calton
2021-05-24 06:15:54 +0000 UTC
He lost me at saying music to be murdered by was a trash album. Dude was going around in circles trying to find his defense. Deflecting all the questions stevie was throwing at him.
Barry Hansen
2021-05-24 06:09:53 +0000 UTC
Rakim, Kane, Kool G 3 pioneer of rap music has validated Em and his art as well love for hip hop and how much he has put time in studying. I don't think I'll need anyone else's opinion for the rest of my life.
DHAIVAT
2021-05-24 06:03:58 +0000 UTC
Who else is just impressed with how Stevie handles these conversations lmaoo I know mouse personally n I love him he’s my boy. I think he’s a great dude but yes it’s true. He hates Eminem LOL no matter what he says on here, trust me. He hates Em n it’s not really a white thing. He hates Em because Em is considered the GOAT and he’s white. Cuz mouse will sit there and tell you that yelwolf or some other white rapper is better than Em just because that other white rapper isn’t considered the goat if that makes sense.. but you know mouse is full of shit when he calls Eminem “Mediocre at best but then admits that Eminem is def in his top 20 but not his top 10.. top20??!! Haha how is he even in your top 20 if he’s barely mediocre? Lol bro there’s been a ton of GREAT MCS. By the time we get to the mediocre rappers on the list we’ll be at number 60 on the list not even maybe somewhere in the 70-80 area... you can’t call sometime mediocre n then call them top20 ever.. after you get the top 5 out the way everyone else position is fair game. Number 6 through 20 can all be moved around. But the five ain’t moving lol 1. Tupac 2. Eminem 3. Hov 4. Rakim 5.Biggie 6. Could be Nas and #20 can be Big Pun. But we all know Big Pun can easily be #6 on any list. Pun could possibly be top 5 actually. Yeah I take that back. After the top 3 it’s fair game. Pac, Em & Hov are not moving. They are the greatest. Em is the most skilled ever, Pac is the most impactful Hov is the Better HipHop artist of the 3.. Pac Is the epitome of what a rapper should be (woke, black n proud, gangsta, respects n represents the Black women but also flashy, poetic, street all that!) Eminem is literally the most skilled. He is The definition of the Craft. He is the most elite with the words. He is the craftiest of them all and he is also woke, n also impactful. Probably the second most impactful.. Hov is the MOST CONSISTENT. He has maybe one mediocre album. The rest are great. He barely has a bad day lol Hov is the king of HipHop but Eminem is the God of Rap (Rap God) LOL . There’s a difference.
Diverse Project
2021-05-24 06:03:23 +0000 UTC
Great interview. Mouse definitely has his own way of looking at things, but that doesn't mean we got to shit on him. REMEMBER PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.😀👍
Allen
2021-05-24 05:53:17 +0000 UTC
I agree. And trust me I know mouse. He’s from Long Island. I’ve known him for years we are good friends actually. And he hates Eminem and White rappers we used to argue all the time about Em cuz I think Em is the Best rapper ever but Tupac is the greatest. And he hates Tupac even more idk why. But I just want to point out that your comparison isn’t parallel “Imagine if a white person said it” .. I really wish good white folks would stop doing that and really understand that it’s not the same and yeah people would flip out if a white person said that because there’s a longggggg history of hatred that lives there so if you do say something like “i only listen to white rappers because they’re white ” then you are essentially putting emphasis on all the hatred we received from your ancestors and continue to receive today and you are aligning yourself with that dark racist negative energy, but it’s no way the same thing as a black person saying “I only listen to black artist, or I only shop at black owned stores or I only buy black owned products or I only vote for black politicians” that’s not racist, that’s supporting your community because your community is dead last on the financial list. Because Your community is the poorest community in the country. Because your community only supports artist, entities or politicians that they can identify with or feel have a common interest in helping their very already behind community is not at all racist.. blacks only supporting blacks isn’t racist, it’s actually tryna get back the 400 years that were stolen from us so we can attempt to create an even plain field. We don’t want more than white ppl we just want our equal share. After all we built this country for free until it killed us. Smh so I’m sure you are not racist. I’m sure you are a good person but white ppl. Need to stop comparing our struggles or our scenarios with theirs. Because it’s not the same thing. The key word is ACCOUNTABILITY. Have a good day. Again I have nothing against you I just want you to understand what it sounds like to us when you guys say stuff like that.. and I’m sure you didn’t mean for that to come off racist which is why I wish the good white folks would stop saying because to black ppl you guys sound a little bit racist or questionable. Just some advice.
Diverse Project
2021-05-24 05:43:37 +0000 UTC
Hear* himself
J Cole
2021-05-24 05:09:41 +0000 UTC
And see Mouse can sit there and say it isn't about race, but at the end off the day to him it is about race.
Janni Nielsen
2021-05-24 05:09:27 +0000 UTC
This dude has got to be trolling. Or he can’t himself talking. I got through half but he’s just pissing me off lmao
J Cole
2021-05-24 05:09:25 +0000 UTC
That bloke is a fucking idiot, why you gave him an hour of your time stevie is beyond me, and now an hour I've lost listening to an out and out racist that knows fuck all about rap! You still the man stevie, but give him no more airtime on your platform!!
Terry Anderson
2021-05-24 05:09:14 +0000 UTC
But as always I admire the way Stevie is able to get his point across without sounding biased, but there's only so much you can do if you're talking to deaf ears
Janni Nielsen
2021-05-24 05:06:56 +0000 UTC
And right there at the end we got the reason for Mouses mindset: Em is white so he won't listen. And he can have his opinion and give his time to whatever he feels like..... BUT imagine a white person saying "I would rather spend my time listening to a white person than a black person" 😳 yeah people would be on that persons ass in no time
Janni Nielsen
2021-05-24 05:02:20 +0000 UTC
Soo pissdd of that i clouldnt get through this video with this guy mouse... had to leave at the 40min mark. Please someone tell me stevie referenced the "best friend" verse !!!!
Agustin Mortaro
2021-05-24 04:58:05 +0000 UTC
In the beginning he said it’s annoying that “White people are calling me racist” Well I’m 100% black and I hate throwing that word out, but after club house and this interview, I also think he is a racist against white people. If he can’t see that, I honestly feel sorry for the guy.
Lela Amboko
2021-05-24 04:57:42 +0000 UTC
If you meet up with him, get him to react Eminem's best verses
GhostlyRipper
2021-05-24 04:46:23 +0000 UTC
Broooo this mother fucker comparing trump and em 🤣🤣🤣
Luke
2021-05-24 04:29:10 +0000 UTC
No matter what u say to mouse he will talk down on
Sup, dawg!
2021-05-24 04:26:31 +0000 UTC
He has Hov and Biggie above eminem but the two songs he’s got with those two, he bodied them on it.
Not saying he’s not allowed to have them above Em but that takes away from his claim about them being better rappers.
Dalton
2021-05-24 04:23:57 +0000 UTC
I honestly don’t know how you kept your cool with him man lmao.. got me over here yelling at the screen 😂
Robbie
2021-05-24 04:21:45 +0000 UTC
EVERYONE VS RACISM!!! mouse is racist. I could understand if he said something like, id rather give that time to an up and coming artist in my hood/city or even my family or friends but to say he'd rather give that time to a black artist is straight racist, point blank period.
Travis Farmer
2021-05-24 04:20:06 +0000 UTC
This mouse is so stupid he says he listened to eminem music to be murdered by and this fall doesn't even know the name of the album or cover art and says it's all mmm mmm arr arr whatever sounds he says but really listen to "she loves me not" and to non eminem fan he's talking about a relationship with a girl and low key tie in to the music industry but really the hole song is about he's drug addiction and letting go of pills
Eddie Brock's Venom
2021-05-24 04:10:04 +0000 UTC
Guy is stupid and racist😂
Kamryn Kahoonei
2021-05-24 04:08:53 +0000 UTC
Facts
Luka V
2021-05-24 04:08:36 +0000 UTC
Interesting convo. "...I'd much rather give my attention to a black rapper" m'kay
Serenade314
2021-05-24 04:08:05 +0000 UTC
I thought Stevie was about to do a reaction and explain the lyrics to never love again. When he brought it up.
Kevin Bowman
2021-05-24 04:04:27 +0000 UTC
Mouse's whole opinion gets disqualified based on his top 5 artist not agreeing with him. Not saying they have Em in their respective top 5, but they all know, they have to come with it.
Kevin Bowman
2021-05-24 04:00:45 +0000 UTC
Not even an argument. A legit conversation with him
Jephph Phullen
2021-05-24 03:53:58 +0000 UTC
This dude mouse got me so fired up I want to have a conversation with him so bad
Jephph Phullen
2021-05-24 03:53:43 +0000 UTC
It ain't even that, he clearly said he hated sslp and basically formed his opinion on that. I'm with stevie I fucking hate the sslp, but I'm not turning a blind eye because of that...
Jephph Phullen
2021-05-24 03:53:20 +0000 UTC
To get the full context go back to like 56-58:35
Jephph Phullen
2021-05-24 03:50:45 +0000 UTC
58-58:35
Jephph Phullen
2021-05-24 03:50:21 +0000 UTC
I think I see want mouse means but if u ain't listened to kamikaze or music to be murdered by side a or side b once or on repeat for a week or month u cant really voice ur opinion cuz it has no meaning to it so u ARE JUS SOUNDING UN EDUCATED like u said u didnt want to mouse🤦🏼♂️ ur hear to be asked about all his music not jus the first 4 u listen to as a teenager 20 or 30 years ago
Knocky Ledwell
2021-05-24 03:42:38 +0000 UTC
I missed that part but sounds fucked up to me.. I'm a stan tho
Knocky Ledwell
2021-05-24 03:40:41 +0000 UTC
Did my feelings about mouse jus change??🤔🤔😱😱😱
Knocky Ledwell
2021-05-24 03:40:02 +0000 UTC
Dude..... motherfucker... you got mouse on here.. why did i have to be busy when this dropped??! Lets get it
Sup, dawg!
2021-05-24 03:28:13 +0000 UTC
Am I the only one that got irritated at the end when mouse said, "I'd rather put that time to a black artist." Like bro I thought this was supposed to be against racism but yet that statement is exactly what stevie doesn't want to promote...im just confused. That last comment irritated the fuck out of me and I'm not even a stan
Jephph Phullen
2021-05-24 03:27:52 +0000 UTC
Stevie having to do mental leaps, bounds, and gymnastics to get Mouse to see his own biases by not calling them biases.
Michael Ward
2021-05-24 03:27:19 +0000 UTC
I really admire the way you kept your cool. I feel like I saw you mouth twitching but you kept yourself in check. I couldn't have done that.
You talking to him about black rappers - he was all ears.
Any time you mentioned Eminem it was like water on a duck's back
Amanda Eddings
2021-05-24 03:26:33 +0000 UTC
No bullshit..? What record he say that on..?
Jephph Phullen
2021-05-24 03:25:35 +0000 UTC
Yo, fuck that Stevie, this is a clout chasing, trolling hater. He just saying shit to piss you off. Lol it's almost funny how pissed he makin you. Listen, don't pay no mind to that fool.
Just enjoy your comments on this post.
Birdie Card
2021-05-24 03:24:50 +0000 UTC
Best friend verse
Daniel Montoya
2021-05-24 03:21:19 +0000 UTC
I feel like if he's force to break down the bars he will be forced to acknowledge the genius
Zachary Robinson
2021-05-24 03:21:05 +0000 UTC
@stevieknight hey bro u gotta get him to do a reaction with u live/or not. And take a poll on the best lyrical song HE may enjoy meaning no crazy shit. Lol or do a verses recap breakdown. Jay vs Em....
Zachary Robinson
2021-05-24 03:19:08 +0000 UTC
very interesting and respectable talk. i do not think that mouse is paying attention to the rap just for the sake of the schemes, lyrics and double triple entendre he would rather give that much attention and effort to up and coming artist from the black community which in of itself is not wrong and his right, he is trying to help his people but the issue comes up when you have an absolute stance of pigeonholing em ( as mediocre at best ) regardless of if you can relate to the topic em is rapping about, the technical ability and quality is abundantly clear. he said it clearly he was surprised that eminem asked through third parties what did he not like exactly and he respects that em did that but if he was in em's position he would not care. i could see mouse's point of view in regards to the fact that he does not look or cares anymore about the quality of work that eminem puts out, he was put off by em's earlier work but he should recognize that this in itself is a subjective point in regards to taste and bias in regards to the discussion the whole point was to be objective and he was not entirely he was on a few points. anyway thank you so much stevie it was an amazing dialog respectable and informative i hope you can make more of this type of content mouse was a good opposition he was respectful, clear and spoke his mind which he is entitled too even though i wholeheartedly disagree on his stance on em's ability and quality of work he makes a good contrast to your position
Abdulrahman
2021-05-24 03:17:16 +0000 UTC
How can he sit there and tell Stevie that he respects his opinion and he has a sound ear that he knows hip hop but at the same time sitting here totally trying to dismember Eminem's Career. Tell me your racist without telling your racist..MOUSE....
Anthony p
2021-05-24 03:15:29 +0000 UTC
Conversations for change and understanding. You keep at bro, this man gonna become a Stan too!
Birdie Card
2021-05-24 03:15:07 +0000 UTC
I respect the man's opinion... but I also think he's wrong...
Johnny Bravo
2021-05-24 03:13:30 +0000 UTC
Facts
daniel Lynch
2021-05-24 03:13:03 +0000 UTC
Funny how every rapper he named in the top 5 recognise one of the best of all time (excluding big of course). You should have pointed that out stevie, would love to have seen his response😂
Colin Campbell
2021-05-24 03:12:46 +0000 UTC
You can't pleased a hater...end off
David Dukowski
2021-05-24 03:11:37 +0000 UTC
Ok, I'm watching it as I'm commenting. So far this fool is playing or riding this wave because he know how dope Em is. He just wants to poke the bear because it gets him the fish.... know what I'm saying?
Like, there's no way this idiot thinks what he says are facts that discredit Em. This shit he says, it's all for clout.
Bars are #1 and every other rapper want it! Bet! Bet they all say that Em is dope. Whether you like'em or not.
Who got bars? Who want to go with Em? All of'em!! Because they know Em is gonna bring the best out of'em!!!
Birdie Card
2021-05-24 03:07:48 +0000 UTC
I don't normally post on these videos but Stevie I appreciate how you combated and proved every point of his wrong that you disagreed with. Any unbiased viewer can see him providing no evidence for his distaste of Eminem, hes just saying "I dont like him so hes mediocre." This guy has some sort of deep seeded racial bias against eminem because of his success and his bias will not allow him to see the almost undeniable skill of eminem. It doesn't matter how much evidence you present to him you will never change his mind.
Michael Ward
2021-05-24 03:07:44 +0000 UTC
Needs to be black...all i heard at the end. So fuckin dumb bro.
Cory Ferm
2021-05-24 03:02:48 +0000 UTC
U should share this video on twitter and tag paul and Marshall 🤭🤭🤣🤣🤜🏻🤛🏿🖤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Knocky Ledwell
2021-05-24 03:02:28 +0000 UTC
Did u call him mouse? This that dude that went off the rail?? My god...that guy is clueless
Cory Ferm
2021-05-24 02:53:25 +0000 UTC
When my guy said Em and Trump are same I backed out.
Amazing how people of US think.
Where I come from I didn't even know rap was black people thing and I loved everyone I listened to.
Without Em I wouldn't have known Rakim, Masta Ace, Nas, NWA.
And for that reason I'd be forever grateful to him.
It's sad how people think.
DHAIVAT
2021-05-24 02:53:25 +0000 UTC
😂😂😂😂😂
daniel Lynch
2021-05-24 02:51:15 +0000 UTC
Last point... He talks about Rakim... Rakim said if Em was black, he's Muhammad Ali... and that is on record.
Robert Baerwalde (Robocles)
2021-05-24 02:51:03 +0000 UTC
He needs to sit with him in person and actually go over his lyrics and break it down for him since all he does is hit play and turn it off!
justin Brock
2021-05-24 02:45:36 +0000 UTC
Mediocre at best level of rapping is a crazy thing to say about em
Psychic Turtle
2021-05-24 02:43:07 +0000 UTC
Now I want rakim versus eminem 🤔
Knocky Ledwell
2021-05-24 02:41:28 +0000 UTC
He's a racist... just trying to make his case with bs... raping your moms... that was in response to people like him... point blank.
Robert Baerwalde (Robocles)
2021-05-24 02:39:22 +0000 UTC
Em wrote all of royces lyrics on bad meets evil album Royce even said it on one of the records on the album
Andrew Levine
2021-05-24 02:37:48 +0000 UTC
How many people subbed to mouse??🤣🤣🤭🤭🤭
Knocky Ledwell
2021-05-24 02:37:02 +0000 UTC
Lmao, 25min and i still havent heard a valid ass argument from him. Everything he's been saying is objectively wrong and naive. This guy is just racist, simple as that.
Rama Djuhana
2021-05-24 02:36:31 +0000 UTC
Mouse a WHOLE HOE out here like he can be a gatekeeper..... like Royce said WHO THA FUCK ARE YOU to even have a input on hiphop 💀
Anthony p
2021-05-24 02:33:50 +0000 UTC
I cant wait to see this shit!!🤜🏻🤛🏿🖤🔥
Knocky Ledwell
2021-05-24 02:33:34 +0000 UTC
Do you think he just doin it for the clout? I do.
Birdie Card
2021-05-24 02:30:19 +0000 UTC
This shit about to blow up
Luccas Machado
2021-05-24 02:28:36 +0000 UTC
Did he say he has 2 million listeners?
Robert Baerwalde (Robocles)
2021-05-24 02:25:26 +0000 UTC
HE THINKS HE IS SO RIGHT, WHAT THE FUCK
Swaraj Jaiswal
2021-05-24 02:22:16 +0000 UTC
That mouse is just a stupid mouse nobody knew of him yet everybody knows eminem he's clown just trying to get clout like benzino does every couple of years
Eddie Brock's Venom
2021-05-24 02:13:00 +0000 UTC
Where is Lord Jamar where you at
daniel Lynch
2021-05-24 02:11:45 +0000 UTC
Mouse gets on my nerves
Kreativeillustr8s
2021-05-24 02:08:01 +0000 UTC
Never clicked so fast
Luccas Machado
2021-05-24 02:02:21 +0000 UTC
YOOO
WhamBamSham
2021-05-24 02:01:24 +0000 UTC