LUPE FIASCO VS EMINEM - FAILURE - LETS SEE HOW THIS GOES
Added 2021-09-07 16:24:12 +0000 UTCLet the Eminem Lupe Fiasco comparison begin!
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vending machine bar wasn't specific at all. It was simple, the sign didn't have anything to do with the bar. hats on (TILT) meaning the gangs in Chicago. and if the snickers didn't drop you will (TILT) the vending machine to drop it. he also said "and I shake N***** up every time I drop a bar" Shake relating it to tilting the Vending Machine. N***** = Snickers. The people he will shake every time he drops a bar are rappers because they are scared of him.
Cross
2022-08-21 15:39:25 +0000 UTCI will say this track is more Lyrical than any Eminem song. Yes it is, he built the whole track from the ground to the sky with these CRAZY metaphors. The flow is the only thing that's lacking.
Cross
2022-08-21 04:12:57 +0000 UTCthis song is meant to be lyrical and the rhyming is still good. there is waaaay more Eminem songs that have only flows than lupe having only bars. He 100% can pull them both at the same time too.
Cross
2022-04-21 11:50:57 +0000 UTCimo lupe is way better than Em
storyplays
2022-03-07 18:02:37 +0000 UTCSo…what you’re SAYING is…Lupe been doing this for nearly 20 years and it only took Em doing it from “Recovery” onwards to INSTANTLY become the outright GOAT with it? 🐐 Sounds like all you did was highlight that he just didn’t do it as good as Em does, my guy. Good luck with that though bro 👌
Colin Harris
2022-01-11 22:03:41 +0000 UTC🤣🤣🤣
Colin Harris
2022-01-11 22:02:22 +0000 UTCyou are delusional and I think Em is the better lyricist but you are just ignorant if you think this isn't hard.
Cross
2022-01-11 08:40:35 +0000 UTC@Colin Harris NO he wasn't bar heavy because Lupe was doing this level of bars in 2005. and these bars are on par with Em's MTBMB. but no necessarily the flow or cadence.
Cross
2022-01-11 08:38:20 +0000 UTCWHAT???? Lupe absolutely does the cadence and the flows just listen to king nas. and btw he did this song in 2005 and this song alone has more doubles than mmlp, sslp and encore combined. I think Eminem is the best but you guys are just being ignorant.
Cross
2022-01-11 02:46:24 +0000 UTChe did all that in 2005. who was doing that back then?
Cross
2022-01-03 17:43:52 +0000 UTC"I'm Bumpy Johnson I stick to the streets Keep my dogs out in front of me You see what I'm saying And I push keys wonderfully" you're telling me he's hyping this bar up? that was CRAZY. go watch the breakdown video carefully to get exactly what he is saying or I can explain it to you if you want.
Cross
2021-11-09 18:44:06 +0000 UTCi never said it was bad just saying i felt it was hyped up more than it should be
Ben Fowler
2021-11-08 12:57:12 +0000 UTChow does this make it bad? this is a fan who did this video and it only explains how good he is.
Cross
2021-11-08 06:44:29 +0000 UTCFacts
Ryan L
2021-10-20 06:27:16 +0000 UTCi agree that was pretty dope but still was way hyping it up more than it needed to be this thing literally have a picture book explaining the song lol
Ben Fowler
2021-10-12 15:13:09 +0000 UTCi think eminem is the best rapper but stevie was not "hyping" AT ALL that was crazy. and he did this song in 2005
Cross
2021-10-12 12:36:53 +0000 UTCYeah, Lupe doesnt do any of that. I dont know what everyone was thinking. It's over. GGs with the nonsense. ✌🏾
StacksCasino
2021-09-29 01:45:19 +0000 UTCYea that was lyrical dope af for sure. Em can also give lyrical. But yea fiasco did his thing. Ok dope dope. Know what else em can do? Em will give you lyrical in a million different freakin ways lol. Em got the cadence, the flow, the multi syllable rhyme schemes, the end rhymes, internal rhymes, can rap about shock value, can rap about relationships, politics, can talk his shit. I mean come on bru. We really entertaining this? i mean i get it i guess. Its content and views. do what you gotta do stevie. But i think we all know this is absolutely not a comparison lmaoo its a joke😂
Matt
2021-09-22 06:02:58 +0000 UTCStevie I feel like you was big hyping or big capping one of the two I mean how many bars would you catch ok Eminem without the lyrics we all already know the answer because we all gotta do the same thing too,!
Ben Fowler
2021-09-17 20:19:33 +0000 UTCHe's nasty, just needs cadence, flow switches etc... but that's not always necessary when you have lyrics like that. It'll appeal to certain people still. But he would need to switch it up a lot more to expand his audience. Still def not at Eminem's level yet, at least not this song.
Alex Collazo
2021-09-17 06:47:11 +0000 UTCFlow is so boring tho... damn.
kevin Bourget
2021-09-09 22:30:25 +0000 UTCNo disrespect to you, but I do find it a tad disrespectful to the community and to Stevie to tell Stevie what he should and should not be putting on his Patreon. I'll leave that there, but that all being said. I in some ways agree with you, but in some ways I don't. I personally think Royce is an overrated MC. I'm not saying he's not good.. don't mistake my words. I just don't think he belongs on the pedestal that everyone puts him on. I do think Lupe is a better rapper than Royce on a technical level. The part that I do agree with you on is that neither of them are really comparable to Em. And that is coming from someone who is definitely not a Stan. I think Em can be overrated at times as well. The main take away from this though is that this is not "energy" being thrown around. This is a conversation. You can either contribute or you can scroll on, but no opinion is invalid unless it's just hate on either end of the conversation.
Dustin Sisler
2021-09-09 21:57:43 +0000 UTCI get what you say to an extent. Some Lupe's bar need specific knowledge and tbh are not that complicated but you'll realize that makes him super versatile in his bars/metaphors. While Em' kinda get stuck with the same schemes. Anw funny reading some braindead stans feeling this song is "random" when I know for a fact they had eargasms listening to songs like Godzilla or Alfred's theme.
kikoolol
2021-09-09 10:09:07 +0000 UTCWell please quote me 2 triples from before 2010 please.
kikoolol
2021-09-09 10:06:31 +0000 UTCGreat lyricist but not even close to Eminem.......
Mohammed Amarneh
2021-09-09 06:40:55 +0000 UTCWith the album reviews being a couple albums in I’m wondering if anyone knows (approximately) how long an album reaction takes from start to finish? I have no problem paying 25 a month to get access to the album reviews but having trouble justifying $50 per album review. Is it better to go down to the 5 per month until the review is finished then pay the 25 for access to it all?
Jordan Jansen
2021-09-08 23:02:19 +0000 UTCThe song is bar heavy for sure but also pretty boring ass flow if this was a em song u would say he was dumbing down his it’s not just the bars with which he def has but it’s the way he says lupe is ok but no em
jon ramis
2021-09-08 18:22:41 +0000 UTCYeah eminem is dropping consistently complex bars but they are filled with pop culture references and comic/hip hop bars so people can really appreciate them instead of being like "yeah... buy why?"
JordanoLee
2021-09-08 13:19:02 +0000 UTCI'd like to see a bar heavy em tune with the pictures to explain it Lupe go hard but I still don't think anyone's above em head and shoulders, even to same the same level is a reach when you break it down IMO
Steve Green
2021-09-08 10:50:05 +0000 UTCThis is the kind of delusional nonsense stevie talks. Em ALWAYS been “bar heavy”. Not quite to the extent that MTBMB Em is but to claim he wasn’t spitting doubles and triples on MMLP, Eminem show and 8mile soundtrack is just plain b.s tbh. Each to their own, I guess.
Colin Harris
2021-09-08 08:39:58 +0000 UTChes a dope emcee. but like you said, without the pictures to back it up.......its hard to navigate..... lupe is a fire ass lyricist. but his bars and metaphors don't hit because its not digestible.....take the images away and you miss damn near everything.....Eminem makes his shit understandable
Andrew Pisano
2021-09-08 03:16:46 +0000 UTCYou’re a clown
Mustafa
2021-09-08 00:37:34 +0000 UTCThere’s no need for the comparisons, both have very different strengths.
Mustafa
2021-09-08 00:36:51 +0000 UTCI could give you a whole album my guy. Tetsuo & Youth. S classic lyricism on there
GhostlyRipper
2021-09-07 22:17:50 +0000 UTCThis also made me very sleepy. Wasn't something where I was like that was clever. It was more like that's neat... I think my English professor said that once.
Jimmy McMinn
2021-09-07 22:16:54 +0000 UTCThat's just one song tho.
Jimmy McMinn
2021-09-07 22:14:36 +0000 UTCEminem is the greatest, no one's denying that. But pen to pen, they're not far from each other. It's just that Eminem's skillsket is too crazy. But Lupe isn't galaxies behind him like you're trying to make it out to be lol that's my only thing
GhostlyRipper
2021-09-07 22:05:25 +0000 UTCLove that you just said because I could give you tracks of Lupe showcasing that flow. Go Go Gadget Flow and Deliver to be specific
GhostlyRipper
2021-09-07 21:55:53 +0000 UTCHere you got me, but this is from the psychoanalysis point of view the origin of the beef between Royce and Lupe, they both felt the need to show that they are better than each other, which is fair enough for me, it's my point, I am open for a comparison between those two, but Em & Lupe, nah, this is way disrespectful to the GOAT. Lemme pick up one criteria that Lupe is known for, concepts, Eminem, has a unique concept in the SSLP, another in the MMLP, another in TES, another in Recovery, another in Kamikaze, and another one in MTBMB side A & B. Plus, no album sounds like the previous one, and I can argue that even in the same album, no song sounds like another. Why disrespecting the legend like that, he's got the whole package, and nobody is touching him, so vocalistically that's social distancing.
M. E. Amine Benaichouche
2021-09-07 21:52:13 +0000 UTCLet me put it in another way, of course you are aware of the criticism of fast spitters saying they are not saying shit even though it's a talent to be able to rap and to rap fast, Lupe got bars and lyrics that blow the mind to the degree that makes one say how the fuck does he come up with this shit, but he doesn't know how to ride the beat, how to flow, he can't deliver his "clever" bars in an ear pleasing way. He's absolutely a lyricist, but I'd rather prefer to read his songs and enjoy the bars like beautiful poems than the tortures I got hearing him trying to deliver them verses.
M. E. Amine Benaichouche
2021-09-07 21:39:50 +0000 UTCThe Show Goes On (you probably heard this)
Colin Wojtysiak
2021-09-07 21:33:44 +0000 UTCLetting Go
Colin Wojtysiak
2021-09-07 21:33:08 +0000 UTCWords I Never Said
Colin Wojtysiak
2021-09-07 21:32:58 +0000 UTCBetter late than never... I wanted to request sooo many Lupe songs.. and i'll admit, i probably dont even know 50% of the great shit out there
Colin Wojtysiak
2021-09-07 21:32:25 +0000 UTCSo we going to act like Food & Liquor and The Cool don't exist? Those are two certified classic albums, Royce doesn't have that. The closest is Book of Ryan but that's not universal. This isn't even shade to Royce cuz both of them are monsters, why else would they get into a battle if they weren't comparable?
GhostlyRipper
2021-09-07 21:29:30 +0000 UTCThat's subjective. It doesn't take Lupe out the conversation just because music doesn't interest you. I'm not even saying Lupe is as good as Em but to act like he isn't an elite MC just shows your bias against him
GhostlyRipper
2021-09-07 21:23:58 +0000 UTCLupe is not in the fucking conversation, he's smart as fuck and comes out with crazy shit, I can't deny it or I'll be a hater, but artistically, when we talk about an MC and the whole package, you are being disrespectful towards Eminem by comparing him to Lupe. I'mma tell you this, I'm not a lazy listener, but Lupe's songs are boring or without replay value
M. E. Amine Benaichouche
2021-09-07 21:10:26 +0000 UTCI'm not in my feelings, I studied Lupe when Em mentioned him on the MMLP2, he doesn't have Royce caliber, first he doesn't have albums like Book of Ryan and The Allegory, second, The Bar Exams albums and PRhyme albums are bar heavy and surpass what Lupe can do. I'm not teaming with Royce because of Em, I've been following him since Bar Exam 2.
M. E. Amine Benaichouche
2021-09-07 21:03:50 +0000 UTCTo anyone doubting Lupe being in this conversation, go back to Steve's Mural reaction. Dude's pen is different
GhostlyRipper
2021-09-07 20:59:47 +0000 UTCEminem became bar heavy around MMLP2/recovery let's not pretend metaphors were a priority in the first leg of his career, and while I'll say em has some of the best stand out verses, he also has a tendency to also consistently drop cringe or all around bad lines.
Sebastian Vera
2021-09-07 20:59:00 +0000 UTCYou lost me with last part. Lupe definitely on Royce level, if not above. Don't underrate Lupe cuz you're in your feelings
GhostlyRipper
2021-09-07 20:47:33 +0000 UTCThis comparison is nonsense. I don't wanna see this bullshit going on on the Patreon, this is not entertaining, Lupe lack cadence, flow switches, delivery, and internal multisyllabic rhymes. I don't compare Eminem to nobody, and I don't know who came up with this Lupe versus, if we puck up an MC like MF Doom it might make sense, even partially. Stevie, I don't wanna see energy put on this bullshit comparison between Eminem and Lupe anymore, Lupe ain't on Royce level, come on! Hello!!
M. E. Amine Benaichouche
2021-09-07 19:18:12 +0000 UTCTheres no flow switch, Lupe doesnt make me have to restart the track cause i know i missed something. Eminem is a beast nobody can match!
KILLAKALI 13
2021-09-07 18:25:45 +0000 UTCGot to check out atomic misphilosophy by Lupe it's incredible
Payton
2021-09-07 17:47:45 +0000 UTCExactly Em is more direct and Lupe is more like a puzzle two different types of lyricists
Payton
2021-09-07 17:45:52 +0000 UTCYeah in terms of metaphors, lupe definitely goes deeper, that being said Em's rhyme schemes, homophones and how he puts stuff together is next level man, more complete rapper imo.
Colin Campbell
2021-09-07 17:40:59 +0000 UTCGood point I think that kind of happened to me too. I don't know a lot of his music but I don't catch a clear theme in the songs I have heard. It feels more like poetic writing at the Harvard level 😏
Toni-Ann
2021-09-07 17:39:38 +0000 UTCJust another ✅. Nigga got plenty more in the arsenal. Any style you want.
StacksCasino
2021-09-07 17:34:25 +0000 UTCLyrically they're both sorta on the same level but eminem has way better cadence, flow switch ups, and word bending skills. No disrespect to lupe.
Chris Carty
2021-09-07 17:33:52 +0000 UTCI think this is a fair comparison but straight up he doesn't have the cadence to captivate a wide audience and sometimes his bars are a little bit too specific whereas Eminem's bars tend to be common knowledge. I think this is going to be a great comparison and trust Stevie Eminem will be watching this come Saturday so keep that in mind. This is the kind of artist he would like to be compared to but I'm sure he knows he's better 😏
Toni-Ann
2021-09-07 17:28:52 +0000 UTCIt's good. But, you got me laughing if you think it's on EM's level. Just means you haven't listened to his discogrophy.
Jimmy McMinn
2021-09-07 17:19:14 +0000 UTCYeah they're way different. Eminem does metaphors too but they're not as layered and cryptic as Lupe. To me, as deep as Eminem gets lyrically, you can pretty much catch it because the reference points are more current event and comedic. Where as Lupe is more intellectual in terms of his lyricism. It's two different kinda rappers.
M Salam
2021-09-07 17:17:08 +0000 UTCLupe is a fucking problem man, comparing him & Em is hard though because they're both so different but so great in their own ways
Colin Campbell
2021-09-07 17:07:56 +0000 UTCThe "I shake niggas up every time I drop a bar" was a continuation of the vending machine bar, because when when you put money in a vending machine and sometimes your item gets stuck, so you have to shake the vending machine to get it out. That's why he said "I shake niggas up every time I drop a bar", and vending machines usually have candy bars or some kinda snack in it.
M Salam
2021-09-07 17:06:20 +0000 UTCThe way they portray their lyricism is to different to compare imo, but both A+ tier lyricists for sure
Jasper
2021-09-07 17:04:40 +0000 UTCLupe is the best lyricist ever
M Salam
2021-09-07 16:52:16 +0000 UTCLupe is a Monster and his Skills are S+ Like EM, but track wise i have almost all Lupe tracks (lupe tracks a whole diferent vibe.) and EM's.... but EM catalogue is better than Lupe in many ways tho, bc EM has a lot more tracks with more diferent flows, schemes , puch lines... unless they do a track tg will be very hard to have a clear comparison....
Peu Oliver Guimarães
2021-09-07 16:46:12 +0000 UTCTo Me lupe has more complex lyrics and is more conceptual. Em is more punchline heavy, better cadence and schemes. I think They are way to different. It depends on what type of rap you like.
Kreshnik Raca
2021-09-07 16:45:26 +0000 UTCIt's hard being a Lupe fan Go to Harvard to be a Lupe stan
Samir Abdullatif
2021-09-07 16:44:57 +0000 UTCThe difference between Em and everyone else (including lupe) is that he spits bars like this on the regular. It’s light work from him. Show me a verse that even REMOTELY fucks with best friend, bad guy, chloaseptic remix - I’ll wait. Consistent excellence is how greatness is measured. The fact we hold Em to an entirely different standard with his bars than ANYONE speaks volumes to just how good he actually is. They do it to all the goats - Messi, Jordan, Gretzky, Brady. People are so used to them setting the bar than we judge them with themselves instead of the competition. We shouldn’t be debating whether or not he’s the greatest…we SHOULD be debating whether or not hel EVER be topped. It is what it is 🤷♂️💯
Colin Harris
2021-09-07 16:36:47 +0000 UTCGonna have to watch later but excited, and also reiterating that Prisoner 1 & 2 and Daydreamin are great Lupe songs
Sebastian Vera
2021-09-07 16:28:09 +0000 UTCPff i hate these comparances..saw another one Em vs NF🤦♀️ I don't mind you reacting to some Lupe tho😊
Nicole Kali
2021-09-07 16:28:02 +0000 UTC
