I agree. I don't personally like Mouth, he makes a lot of choices I don't agree with. However everything involving Millie, I believe he did everything he could to try and prevent this all from happening. I never realized how much double standards Julie has between men and women until I've seen her react to oth. Her hatred for men and discriminating their every word and choice has gotten me to the point I can't really stand watching her reactions anymore. She's too harsh and judgmental.
alexis chalstrom
2021-07-19 22:14:35 +0000 UTC
I say Juli can't feel bad for Millie. Mouth saw this coming, he tried for several episodes to prevent this and every time he did Juli tore him down and insulted him. Juli asked for Millie to be a drug addict. Everything mad happpening to Millie, Juli needs to embrace because she fought and asked for this!
Zach Faulkner
2021-03-02 05:18:50 +0000 UTC
Ah yes the double standards and hating on men... this seems familiar
Tim Eversole
2021-02-10 23:41:17 +0000 UTC
Can we note that just like Alex notices Millie so does mouth?
Lexi
2021-01-28 03:41:49 +0000 UTC
can we take a second and talk about mouth and dan though, you can see the hatred mouth has for him because not only did he kill keith but he framed jimmy and mouth wasn’t even allowed to miss his friend because everyone thought he killed keith
fry
2021-01-13 06:04:14 +0000 UTC
Brooke. :'( Excited for more episodes hopefully soon. This season is so good!
Leora Nechama
2020-12-29 01:27:17 +0000 UTC
I don't blame Brooke for not helping Millie. Brooke doesn't know that she has an addiction but tbh I wouldn't even blame Brooke for not helping Millie even if she did know. Addiction is a reason - not an excuse. You cannot use an addiction as an excuse to treating people horribly and doing bad things. People do not have to sit back and accept that and then support you. Millie STOLE Brooke's secret work dress, asks for half a million dollars, and then talks disrespectfully to her friend who has given her multiple opportunities of a life time. She would be fired immediately for any one of those things if she was anybody else. Not to mention that she could have killed someone drunk driving. In my opinion, it does not make you a bad friend to not help in that situation.
miah.sun
2020-12-28 23:31:13 +0000 UTC
oh yes I miss switched at birth as well:)
miah.sun
2020-12-28 23:18:55 +0000 UTC
Yeah I was mad to but like we have to understand them swell. They're mad and lashing out, I'm not saying that it makes it right, just that we should have a little understanding :)
SamTheMars
2020-12-27 19:37:18 +0000 UTC
This episode made me so mad at Naley. Sure Quinn should have stayed out of it but they blamed Quinn for liking Clay. And Haley has been so judgemental about her wanting a divorice and Quinn's relationship w/ Clay. But I think they were the ones being selfish because they drove Quinn out of the house because they were being so rude to her about Clay. Its not Quinn's fault. Clay should take accountability but Quinn did nothing wrong.
JP Phillips
2020-12-25 21:27:44 +0000 UTC
i agree with all of this!!
Lisa Briley
2020-12-25 21:01:09 +0000 UTC
What bugs me so much about the Nathan and Haley thing is that they have no right to tell Quinn or Clay who they can and can’t date. They are adults and they can make their own decisions, even if Nathan and Haley don’t like it or agree with it. Also, Naley are acting like Clay was screwing up everything because he wasn’t actively thinking about this deal 24/7. He was talking to the team and negotiating, and he left it for the team to counter. The team went behind his back and signed a deal with no warning. There’s no way he could have seen that coming. Being an agent is his job not his life. They shouldn’t expect him to only think about Nathan and not do anything else. I get that this is important but that’s very unrealistic and unfair to put that on him.
Now, Millie is also annoying me because she’s acting very entitled and selfish. I get that she’s having issues and she’s going through an addiction and dealing with her insecurities with being a model. But she’s demanding to be treated like she’s on the same level professionally as a famous actress. Nobody is going to pay a first time model half a million dollars for their first job, even if they are the face of a company. And really she’s not the face of the company, she’s the face of this one campaign for “Zero is not a size.” And I don’t blame Brooke at all for not going to help Millie. I think Brooke is showing her tough love which Millie really needs. I feel bad for Millie and she needs to get help, but she’s been acting out and doing whatever she wants for several episodes and now she’s getting the consequences of that.
Jared Scoggin
2020-12-25 15:36:05 +0000 UTC
And because no one has talked about it yet. We see another addict, who has another reason, which is another common reason, which unfortunately is depression. Alex is so lonely and lost that I think she became so depressed that she had to lean on drugs and alcohol to feel some sort of happiness. Which is extremely sad and even more sad that it’s an extremely common reason people get hooked to drugs. I mean so is Millie’s. But Alex’s comes from a different root that’s probably lasted a long time. So I don’t think she actually “loves” Jillian. I think he has shown the same type of happiness and attention to her that she got from drugs and alcohol but just from a positive outlet, which she’s never had before. And because she has never had that I think it confuses her with love cause it’s something positive and different in her life.
Rhiannon Huffman
2020-12-25 08:03:08 +0000 UTC
Okay so I just wanna touch on the situation with Millie I do agree with everyone saying she’s in the wrong for how she’s acting and treating everyone. And she is. However there really isn’t much you can say or do to help her. She has very quickly grown into a very fast and strong addiction which usually takes a little longer then like a couple days lol. But I get for the point of the show they want to speed it up to show how bad it can be. Plus it does kind of fit the storyline of having this obsession with “fitting in” and losing weight; because she has always been behind the scenes and a little more reserved. So I think with her getting some spotlight for something that she never had the spotlight on before definitely put her under a lot pressure. But with that all being said since she is already so deep, unfortunately the sad truth is the only one that can help her is her. But she still needs be shown support form loved ones so she has that motivation to want to stop.
Rhiannon Huffman
2020-12-25 07:53:32 +0000 UTC
god I forgot how much Haley pissed me off this episode...
Lisa Briley
2020-12-25 07:10:43 +0000 UTC
mouth has every right, who wants to be with someone that wants to be like everyone to fit in, cuz if i was mouth i wouldnt wanna be with someone who changes just to have fake friends that fit in, in the modeling world that isnt guarantee btw. Millie is acting childish and insenstive, she's been emotionally blaming everyone but herself, she keeps acting like as if she has been feeling and dealing with what alex has and she hasnt, alex had nasty comments and reputations that led her to coke and other bad decisons meanwhile millie is just trying to fit in and had a comment about looking like a "turd sandwich" and being plus size. what is wrong with plus size, there is nothing wrong with her weight, and for her to take pills is clearly and insecurite and its not fair for her to take it out on brooke and motuh and anyone who is trying to be there fpr her or trying to fix the person SHE IS RN. Mouth has every right as a boyfriend and person who has seen that millie BECAME SOMEONE ELSE TO FIT IN AND BE POPULAR, HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO SET IT STRAIGHT. Lucas, nathan, haley, brooke,peyton, etc have down way worse for mouth to get so much shit on. Mouth is way better at setting straight the people he cares about than those who either hide, LIE or hold back to later to say something, I wish you could see from mouth's POV but clear reasons i can see why not which is you shipping millie with alex which goes over the fact of you seeing that mouth is worried and cares so much about millie that he knows shes better than this. IDK if you forgot but mouth knew millie since season 5, alex just met her. Alex knew she was on it cuz she knows how it feels to be an addict. Mouth has said multiple times that millie doesnt need to act a certain way like the rest of the models have but still you didnt like it, like in the TRIC. So im a little confused and annoyed on what you WANT mouth to say to millie that is okay for you cuz again in my opinion, anything mouth says is wrong in your eyes and anything millie does is lowkey okay cuz "just let her do her thing". do what? snort coke and be someone shes not? this isnt even about being a model anymore. millie wants to be like them and she can be so much more. Last reaction made me sigh when it came to your opinion to mouth but this reaction made me roll my eyes cuz you ship alex with millie which goes over the fact of the truth which is shes with mouth and mouth saying anything, is annoying and wrong. He's worried and SHES NOT MILLIE ANYMORE, NOW SHES MALEFICENT. THE WORST PARTS. She disrespected brooke in so many ways, and not once but like three times. OFC brooke isnt gonna help, millie also didn't care about brookes job and felt she was aboved everyone involved even alex which is why she stole and keeps taking her clothes cuz "face of clothes over bros" needs more attention apparently.
izzy
2020-12-25 06:52:37 +0000 UTC
i’m not even the biggest mouth fan but everyone else in this show acts 10x worse than him for the most part and you give them all the benefit of the doubt and they get a pass, yet if mouth breathes wrong you get mad at him. i just feel like you should give him more of a chance. he has every right to react the way he has imo
JMH vlogs
2020-12-25 06:31:33 +0000 UTC
"Just let her do her thing" yeah. Mouth totally shouldn't be concerned with his girlfriend who has changed massively and is behaving erratically at 3am
Asaunte
2020-12-25 06:07:45 +0000 UTC
totally random but i was watching your switched at birth reactions and i miss them😭 totally excited to watch this though lol
fry
2020-12-25 03:17:29 +0000 UTC
I agree with everyone, I just couldn't stand Haley there... Seriously, like who does she think she is??
Anne M.
2020-12-25 02:34:13 +0000 UTC
hey juli! if you ever have some extra time, there is a new show that everyone is watching rn called The Wilds that i think you would LOVE! It’s basically an all female cast and there’s some other aspects i think you’d like😏😉😉
Lisa Briley
2020-12-25 02:02:00 +0000 UTC
I think it makes perfect sense for Quinn to try and bargain with Nathan and Haley, it's not like she didn't know them before. She's talking to her friends to solve things with her boyfriend, it just so happens that it's about business.
Zeph 802
2020-12-25 01:18:53 +0000 UTC
Putting the whole Quinn thing aside....in terms of Clay's job do you think he actually did something wrong? I know nothing about sports agents so idk. But it seems like his job is to negotiate and part of negotiations are risk. It seems like Nathan's team was trying to low ball him with the 2 year contract. Clay thought that he was worth more. He bartered 4 years in order to get 3 years. That seems exactly how you are supposed to negotiate to me. Of course, it would be disappointing to Nathan and Haley what happened and I 100% think they have a right to have feelings but I think that they are taking their feelings too far?
miah.sun
2020-12-25 00:13:13 +0000 UTC
to answer your question: there is always a midseason finale .. for season 7 I think it was 7x12 aka only two more episodes ;)
thisismaria27
2020-12-24 23:36:14 +0000 UTC
in light of what we found out about Brooke not being able to have kids...her comment from an episode or two ago "Why can't you be the girl who gets the boy and the baby Brooke Davis" is even more heartbreaking.
miah.sun
2020-12-24 22:54:57 +0000 UTC
I love Clay so much as a character, so I feel for him throughout this storyline...but I don't begrudge Nathan and Haley for being upset with him. It's Nathan's career, his livelihood. And I like Quinn, but I get annoyed when she puts her two cents in with Naley. I like her being there for Clay, but dude, let Naley feel their feelings.
And I think it's easier to be irritated with Nathan and Haley duing this storyline, but the narrative is showing us more of Clay's perspective than it is with the OG characters and THAT bothers me. I like learning more about Clay, obviously, bu it feels like the writing is pushing aside Nathan and Haley to shine light on the newbies - Clay and Quinn - and I'm very mehhh on that choice.
I also don't like the "stay away from Quinn" thing only because it comes off like Nathan and Haley have some jurisdiction over who Clay or Quinn date and that's annoying. However, Clay is/was Nathan's agent, so him dating a family member is crossing professional boundaries, so on THAT front, I can understand why they're not about it. The problem is, Clay feels so ingrained into the Scott family that it feels odd when they're suddenly slapping down that kind of professional boundary.
cee
2020-12-24 22:50:55 +0000 UTC
The Dan scene is hilarious. "This is your baptism!" "Wear a suit". Dan has his own way of doing things. But again, it is all in the name of Nathan. It is interesting how complex Dan is. On one hand I feel bad for him and on the other he tried to drown someone lol
miah.sun
2020-12-24 22:39:54 +0000 UTC
I love Haley so much but this is the one point in the show that I cannot stand her. She is so high and mighty. She thinks she has the right to tell Clay who to date and her last lines to Quinn were SO MEAN. To say that she used to look up to her big sister and now she doesn't because she is selfish. Wow. The way that Quinn had tears in her eyes. That was below the belt and Quinn did not deserve that.
miah.sun
2020-12-24 22:29:45 +0000 UTC
When I watched this for the first time...this was the point that I started liking Quinn. I am totally on her side here. Haley was so in the wrong. I agree about not mixing business and personal but Haley and Nathan crossed that line FIRST by firing Clay in part for being with Quinn. I hate that Nathan and Haley feel that they have a say in that. So, of course Quinn feels guilty and is getting in the middle of it because she knows that she is part of the reason that Clay was fired. So, if anyone was responsible for mixing business and personal it is Haley and Nathan in my opinion. Quinn was just responding to it.
miah.sun
2020-12-24 22:18:50 +0000 UTC
BTW in response to your question about mid-season finales and all that, yes! So episode 12 of this season will technically be this seasons mid-season finale and that makes episode 13 of this season the mid-season premiere!
J
2020-12-24 21:27:32 +0000 UTC
Yea I still have mad love for Haley but definitely this episode for her is one of my least favorites because of how judgmental she is of her sister.
J
2020-12-24 21:19:07 +0000 UTC
Yes! I definitely agree, it makes me so mad when they blame Nathan not getting his contract renewed on the fact that Clay and Quinn were spending time together. He may be his agent and his job his to get him that deal, but he's also allowed to have a life? A girlfriend? Friends? Like it is actually so absurd to me that they felt like they had a right to pin that on him. And yea, I hate it when Haley calls Quinn selfish it makes me so upset.
J
2020-12-24 21:18:29 +0000 UTC
I love Naley, but this is the one time in the show they really annoyed me. Trying to blame Clay spending time with Quinn for Nathan not getting a contract, and just the two of them telling Quinn and Clay they can’t have a relationship, like it’s any of their business. I completely agree with everything Quinn said to Haley when she was packing to go to Clay’s, and it made me so mad when Haley called her selfish at the end.
Angelina Strickland
2020-12-24 20:07:51 +0000 UTC
These next few episodes are some of my favorites not just of the season but of the series in general. They’re just so well done from Brooke’s realization of her not being able to have kids, to Millie’s cocaine addiction and falling apart, and other stuff I won’t mention yet.