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Book Club: RAVENOR Question thread!

Hi everyone - we're going to record our books club episode on Ravenor later tonight, so if you had any questions / observations, or things you wanted to talk about, please post them here! (and apologies for the late notice).

The difference in feel between this and eisenhorn?
The change from single POv to ensemble characters?
The return to being a 'crime' novel?
Different looks at the Inquisition?

We'll be moving onto Ravenor Returned after this!

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Basically you cross your arms in front of your chest with your palms towards you. The fingers forming the wings and your thumbs the two heads of the eagle. Sometimes done with the thumbs hooked together.

Colourblind

How does one make the sign of the Aquila? I imagine something like a shadow puppet of a bird, but presume it’s less silly.

John Sheffield

Which inquisitorial warband has worst Stockholm syndrome?

Ed Scott

Yata JW Sligh me too! I'm also disabled, if space marines aren't text book examples of ableism writ large I don't know what is. I think Nurgle is interesting, especially as one of the few factions which doesn't adopt a medical model conception of disability (no one is trying to fix you). Some combination of every faction being playable and 2 decades of GW trying to make space marines more heroic has accidentally led to some really interesting disability representation. What are your thoughts?

Liam

Yessssss this! As a disabled individual myself I have been curious about these very questions.

Yata JW Sligh

As an observation I found the depiction of deindustrialisation and its impacts really interesting and felt it linked things like the gang cultures of the region and drug use as a coping mechanism to the environment to the economic decline of the region.

Lilburne Level

I'm really interested in disability representation in 40k (shout out to Nurgle and Chettamandey Brobantis). I felt the book struggled at times with how Ravenor narrated his own experiences of being disabled. Especially in scenes where he was using his psychic powers to project himself out of his body, it felt to me like his disabilty was being used as a narrative tool to contrast against the freedom offered outside of his body. What are your thoughts on this and on disabilty representation in 40k more broadly?

Liam

Definitely a fusion of X-Men and Charlie's Angels 😆

Gabriel Walton

In a discussion with a friend recently, the subject of Frauka's limiter came up, and to summarise, I felt that having Frauka be able to turn off his Null abilities seemed far too convenient at times, compared to how psychic blanks/nulls/pariahs are depicted in other stories. As an aside to all that, for all that Ravenor is a crime story... Ravenor and his team are basically the X-Men, right? It's not just me who sees that?

Nathan Dowdell


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